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Was Cured For 2 Years (spironolactone + dutasteride), But Now Looking For A New Cure
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Hey, guys 
sry, I've been away for a while.
Thanks for all the comments and thanks to KSA and Americanhairlines90 for replying to questions asked in here.
I've been bit lazy with my regimen for a while. Been skipping pills here and there and had breaks from them. Tried to enjoy summer and other things in life, you see.
I've started to get some acne on my forehead but not on my cheeks like I used to before. Weird. Maybe my androgen receptors on forehead and scalp are getting more sensitive, while cheeks are staying the same?
Im still losing ground slowly but not as agressive as before. Pretty much the same situation as half year ago.
Im trying to be more faithful for my regimen now on and see if things get better. I changed my regimen to 250mg spironolactone ED and 1mg dutasteride ED.
I dont think hairloss that much anymore because my loss is so slow and my friends that had full heads before, have less hair than me now they don't even know im balding. I'd say that spironolactone has been worth it for me because it has maintained my hair for many years now. At this pace I have like 1-3 years before hairloss starts to get noticeable.
Tips for all guys who want to try Spironolactone (at your own risk tho):
-It works best with Dutasteride, but consider adding Minoxidil and ketonazole shampoo too
-start with low dosages and up the dosages slowly.
-If you get gyno, have a break for a while and it should go away. Consider trying it again.
-Stay hydrated and avoid foods with high potassium. Add more salt if you need to.
-Have bloodtest done monthly.
-Live healthy life.
-Don't drink much alcohol! (couple glasses of wine is fine, but heavy drinking leads to gyno)
I go to gym and run alot, so spironolactone hasn't stopped me from living normal life at all. I feel more healthier and normal with spironolactone than without it, lol. Mentally and physically.
If you have questions feel free to ask. I try to stay more active on here
sry, I've been away for a while.Thanks for all the comments and thanks to KSA and Americanhairlines90 for replying to questions asked in here.
I've been bit lazy with my regimen for a while. Been skipping pills here and there and had breaks from them. Tried to enjoy summer and other things in life, you see
.I've started to get some acne on my forehead but not on my cheeks like I used to before. Weird. Maybe my androgen receptors on forehead and scalp are getting more sensitive, while cheeks are staying the same?
Im still losing ground slowly but not as agressive as before. Pretty much the same situation as half year ago.
Im trying to be more faithful for my regimen now on and see if things get better. I changed my regimen to 250mg spironolactone ED and 1mg dutasteride ED.
I dont think hairloss that much anymore because my loss is so slow and my friends that had full heads before, have less hair than me now
they don't even know im balding. I'd say that spironolactone has been worth it for me because it has maintained my hair for many years now. At this pace I have like 1-3 years before hairloss starts to get noticeable.Tips for all guys who want to try Spironolactone (at your own risk tho):
-It works best with Dutasteride, but consider adding Minoxidil and ketonazole shampoo too
-start with low dosages and up the dosages slowly.
-If you get gyno, have a break for a while and it should go away. Consider trying it again.
-Stay hydrated and avoid foods with high potassium. Add more salt if you need to.
-Have bloodtest done monthly.
-Live healthy life.
-Don't drink much alcohol! (couple glasses of wine is fine, but heavy drinking leads to gyno)
I go to gym and run alot, so spironolactone hasn't stopped me from living normal life at all. I feel more healthier and normal with spironolactone than without it, lol. Mentally and physically.
If you have questions feel free to ask. I try to stay more active on here
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Yes, whenever I get gyno I just have a break for a while and it goes away. Have done it many times now. I was shirtless this summer.
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Im considering using bicalutamide 50mg or 25mg ED , I don't have enough data since only a few people trying it. So what are your thoughts about bica guys?
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Did you change your regime, because 200 mg spironolactone and 0.5 mg dutas were not effective anymore?Hey, guys
Thanks for all the comments and thanks to KSA and Americanhairlines for replying to questions asked in here.
I've been bit lazy with my regimen for a while. Been skipping pills here and there and had breaks from them. Tried to enjoy summer and other things in life, you see
I've started to get some acne on my forehead but not on my cheeks like I used to before. Weird. Maybe my androgen receptors on forehead and scalp are getting more sensitive, while cheeks are staying the same?
Im still losing ground slowly but not as agressive as before. Pretty much the same situation as half year ago.
Im trying to be more faithful for my regimen now on and see if things get better. I changed my regimen to 250mg spironolactone ED and 1mg dutasteride ED.
I dont think hairloss that much anymore because my loss is so slow and my friends that had full heads before, have less hair than me now
Tips for all guys who want to try it (at your own risk tho):
start with low dosages and up the dosages slowly.
If you get little gyno, have a break for a while and it should go away. Consider trying it again.
Stay hydrated and avoid foods with high potassium. Add more salt if you need to.
Have bloodtest done monthly.
Live healthy life.
I go to gym and run alot, so spironolactone hasn't stopped me from living normal life at all. I feel more healthier and normal with spironolactone than without it, lol. Mentally and physically.
If you have questions feel free to ask. I try to stay more active on here
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I've read that Bicalutamide is more specific antiandrogen. It affects mostly prostate gland so I guess it could have less effect on hair. It also has bigger risk of side effects (bad for kidneys) than Spironolactone. Most success stories have used spironolactone or Cypro so I don't know much about Bica.
Yeah, it lost some effect but most guys here would be okay with that kind of maintaining. I just want more
MORE REGROWTH!
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We all want, my friend.I've read that Bicalutamide is more specific antiandrogen. It affects mostly prostate gland so I guess it could have less effect on hair. It also has bigger risk of side effects (bad for kidneys) than Spironolactone. Most success stories have used spironolactone or Cypro so I don't know much about Bica.
Yeah, it lost some effect but most guys here would be okay with that kind of maintaining. I just want more
Thank you for sharing your experiences with us and answering our questions. You and few other (former) oral spironolactone users inspired me.
Hey, guys
Thanks for all the comments and thanks to KSA and Americanhairlines for replying to questions asked in here.
I've been bit lazy with my regimen for a while. Been skipping pills here and there and had breaks from them. Tried to enjoy summer and other things in life, you see
I've started to get some acne on my forehead but not on my cheeks like I used to before. Weird. Maybe my androgen receptors on forehead and scalp are getting more sensitive, while cheeks are staying the same?
Im still losing ground slowly but not as agressive as before. Pretty much the same situation as half year ago.
Im trying to be more faithful for my regimen now on and see if things get better. I changed my regimen to 250mg spironolactone ED and 1mg dutasteride ED.
I dont think hairloss that much anymore because my loss is so slow and my friends that had full heads before, have less hair than me now
Tips for all guys who want to try it (at your own risk tho):
start with low dosages and up the dosages slowly.
If you get little gyno, have a break for a while and it should go away. Consider trying it again.
Stay hydrated and avoid foods with high potassium. Add more salt if you need to.
Have bloodtest done monthly.
Live healthy life.
I go to gym and run alot, so spironolactone hasn't stopped me from living normal life at all. I feel more healthier and normal with spironolactone than without it, lol. Mentally and physically.
If you have questions feel free to ask. I try to stay more active on here
Hi, what dose of spironolactone would you recommend to start with? How long have you been taking spironolactone and what results did you get?
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25mg or 50mg. I started with 50mg I think, and I've been takin spironolactone since 2015.
Check front page of the thread for pics. I pretty much regrew 90% and considered myself cured.
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What kind of gyno you got? Mild gyno? Was it noticeable? How long to take a break? And if I start with my regimen, do I have to take food or water with it?
Sorry for so many questions. I just want to be more informed.
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No problem, lol.What kind of gyno you got? Mild gyno? Was it noticeable? How long to take a break? And if I start with my regimen, do I have to take food or water with it?
Sorry for so many questions. I just want to be more informed.
Mild gyno. Felt like little disk in my nipple, size of a split peanut.
Yes, it was noticeable as it made my nipples little pointy and puffy.
I take break for 3-5 weeks depends how fast it goes away.
Yes you should take dutasteride and spironolactone with food. You should take alot of water with dutasteride because if the capsule dissolves in your throat, it might burn a bit (acidic or something).
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Thanks!
The idea of taking a break sounds plausible, if you get gynecomastia, but I'm afraid that I will lose more hair again.
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You might lose some while taking a break, because of rapid hormonal changes. It grew back to me atleast and in time my hair got thicker.
Just monitor your body and don't freakout. You learn in time how your body reacts to the drug and what is best way to use it.
You could try to exercise alot and eat healthy to avoid side effects.
Most important part: DON'T DRINK MUCH ALCOHOL! drinking 1-2 glasses of wine or something with the family is fine, but everytime I went out with the bois.... gyno. Alcohol has estrogenic effects in the body you see.
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Here's pic from couple weeks ago for those interested. Left temple took some hit while on break. Red dots mark my natural hairline. I still have some babyhairs and normal hairs on that area but they thinned up a bit. Im quite positive im gonna regrow some back while on drugs again.
These are from summer when I had longer hair and had not shed that much yet.
Comparing them to my hair before spironolactone and dutasteride.... It's just ridiculous. >_>
These are from summer when I had longer hair and had not shed that much yet.
Comparing them to my hair before spironolactone and dutasteride.... It's just ridiculous. >_>
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You still look great - try minoxidil perhaps?
It does that - restart hair follicles at first and then it usually does work.
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No, dutasteride is important in my opinion. They work in synergy blocking both DHT and Test.
Hi boys, wanted to chime in here with some notes from my last visit to my endocrinologist.
On my last lab - my testosterone went up again to just a bit over max (total and free) - this is obviously a result of the blocking effect of Spironolactone. For me, however, this blockage was never significant enough to completely dry out my skin in the way that Flutamide did for years before. This came to me as a surprise, but not a surprise at all for my endocrinologist who said Spironolactone actually elevates testosterone levels in blood as its steroid-genesis inhibiting effect is rather poor. He advised that I drop to 100mg wherein the drug should still considerably block receptors (I'm 5'7 and 130 lbs) but it won't meddle with the feedback mechanism as much. Idk he's really not a fan of Spironolactone above 50mgs. My serum DHT is below menopausal-female ranges, but I'm assuming scalp DHT must be higher.
I've been shedding again in a way that I have not since I was on oral minoxidil in May + June. I know finasteride can cause a shed well into months 7-10 but who's to say? Sometimes I have the scalp itch and sometimes I do not.
I have no idea what to expect ahead and may reconsider Flutamide or consider Cyproterone-Acetate although I'm praying finasteride just picks up where that left off.
Negatives of Flutamide include increased libido, increased androgens, relatively intense gyno, and occasionally miserable hot flashes.
On my last lab - my testosterone went up again to just a bit over max (total and free) - this is obviously a result of the blocking effect of Spironolactone. For me, however, this blockage was never significant enough to completely dry out my skin in the way that Flutamide did for years before. This came to me as a surprise, but not a surprise at all for my endocrinologist who said Spironolactone actually elevates testosterone levels in blood as its steroid-genesis inhibiting effect is rather poor. He advised that I drop to 100mg wherein the drug should still considerably block receptors (I'm 5'7 and 130 lbs) but it won't meddle with the feedback mechanism as much. Idk he's really not a fan of Spironolactone above 50mgs. My serum DHT is below menopausal-female ranges, but I'm assuming scalp DHT must be higher.
I've been shedding again in a way that I have not since I was on oral minoxidil in May + June. I know finasteride can cause a shed well into months 7-10 but who's to say? Sometimes I have the scalp itch and sometimes I do not.
I have no idea what to expect ahead and may reconsider Flutamide or consider Cyproterone-Acetate although I'm praying finasteride just picks up where that left off.
Negatives of Flutamide include increased libido, increased androgens, relatively intense gyno, and occasionally miserable hot flashes.