Very Impressive Dermarolling And Minxodil Results - From Tressless

[NorwoodGuardian]

I got infection/psoriasis on my scalp..I was dermarolling and also using fibres

Isn't fibres supposed to be "clean"?

 

[Capone]

Isn't fibres supposed to be "clean"?

Not at all.. man made synthetic crap, esp the cheaper stuff

 

[NorwoodGuardian]

Not at all.. man made synthetic crap, esp the cheaper stuff

Which brand? I use Toppik.

 

[Capone]

Which brand? I use Toppik.

Read the ingredients

 

[NorwoodGuardian]

Read the ingredients

Keratin protein.

 

[bucksins6x]

Does anyone know if it matters what one I buy? One is cheaper

 

[spring15]

@bucksins6x I'm not sure anyone has tried all the Dr Pens to tell you. Any pen should be better than a dermaroller though

 

[Derelict]

Does anyone know if it matters what one I buy? One is cheaper

Spend the extra $60 and get the A6. Great pen used by many people on here.

 

[NorwoodGuardian]

Does anyone know if it matters what one I buy? One is cheaper

I use A7, main disadvantage is you need to connect it to a socket.

 

[devz]

Is minoxidil 2% without derma can ruin your hair? I got diffuse pattern and 5 months ago I started with minoxidil 2% without needling, the left receeding hairline is becoming thinner instead of improving

 

[LouisSarkozy]

Does anyone know if it matters what one I buy? One is cheaper

don't . just bought the blue one because my derminator 1 recently stopped working and the needles are absolute sh*t quality it did damage my skin

 

[NorwoodGuardian]

I even don't trust the needles in Amazon. I bought at the Dr Pen approved seller in Australia, price is higher tho.

 

[Okocha121]

Hi

I would like to know what is the best dermaroller to buy? A Dermapen is really better than a simple dermaroller?
There are a lot of examples which people got amazing results but do we have some better ideas about how it works now?

Thanks

 

[bucksins6x]

So what’s the consensus? $60 pen or $120

 

[NorwoodGuardian]

Many who had good results used cheap pens or even simple derma roller. Don't think it will make a lot of difference

That’s why I doubt Follica’s patent makes big difference. Those who got good results before the patent was released wounded randomly, many wounded to bleed and one of them even butchered his scalp. So I begin to think that deep wounding is better than mild redness wound.

 

[NorwoodGuardian]

From what I've seen most who had good results just had mild redness, number guy is a great example. He also used a cheap pen.

Hard to believe it can do something big under scalp when it's just mild redness.

 

[NorwoodGuardian]

For those interested in understanding the science, these studies may be helpful in giving a better understanding of what happens during micro needling: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3921236/ & https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29199946 Interpret however you like but here are some of the highlights.....lending credibility to shallow depth at high concentration (quorum sensing):

• Skin cuts to a depth of 0.5–0.6 mm close by electrical cell stimulation without any trace of scar tissue. Deeper skin cuts close by “skin repair” that ultimately results in scar formation.
• The theoretical method of action of microneedling may include trans-epithelial potentials (TEP's) suggesting the response is based on electrical signaling and the mobilization of local stem cell pools to promote tissue regeneration and repair
• Only cells in the vicinity of the injury (about 2–3 mm) are activated. Once the TEP is restored the activated cells resume their resting potential. To elicit a desired response from microneedling about two hundred needle pricks are created per cm2 of skin.

https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/attachments/skincellproliferationmnd-pdf.133534/

Here's the Follica presentation with some more info about skin disruption and the creation of new hair follicles: https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/attachments/follica-clinical-summary_compressed-pdf.132602/

200 needle pricks? Not 1600 according to patent?

 

[Okocha121]

From what I've seen most who had good results just had mild redness, number guy is a great example. He also used a cheap pen.

What do you mean by cheap? 50$ or less?

 

[KNemo]

200 needle pricks? Not 1600 according to patent?

Different purposes, skin regeneration vs hair follicle neogenesis.

 

[iCloud]

Here's the Follica presentation with some more info about skin disruption and the creation of new hair follicles: https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/attachments/follica-clinical-summary_compressed-pdf.132602/

Thank you for posting this, I had never seen this presentation.