Very Impressive Dermarolling And Minxodil Results - From Tressless

chen

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Hello people, it's me @chen again. I haven't posted anything in a while. But today reading the reports I decided to post again. These photos are new, I took this very moment. Galaxy note 10 plus phone. The lighting is very strong. The protocol is the same. I haven't changed anything. I am recovering the front line but unfortunately it will take longer than I imagined, maybe 2 or 3 years to recover the entire front line. It is. Good night to all and good recovery.
 

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spring15

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Hello people, it's me @chen again. I haven't posted anything in a while. But today reading the reports I decided to post again. These photos are new, I took this very moment. Galaxy note 10 plus phone. The lighting is very strong. The protocol is the same. I haven't changed anything. I am recovering the front line but unfortunately it will take longer than I imagined, maybe 2 or 3 years to recover the entire front line. It is. Good night to all and good recovery.

Thank you Chen. You're protocol is to needle daily at 1mm correct? Also applying minoxidil everyday
 

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Hello people, it's me @chen again. I haven't posted anything in a while. But today reading the reports I decided to post again. These photos are new, I took this very moment. Galaxy note 10 plus phone. The lighting is very strong. The protocol is the same. I haven't changed anything. I am recovering the front line but unfortunately it will take longer than I imagined, maybe 2 or 3 years to recover the entire front line. It is. Good night to all and good recovery.

The legend has returned lol great progress chen, as spring asked, your routine still rolling with 1mm daily before applying minoxidil?
 

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New study about needle depth

Abstract​


Background: Microneedling has shown to have positive therapeutic effects in treatment of androgenetic alopecia (Androgenetic Alopecia); however, the best microneedling protocol is still controversial.​

Aims: Investigating effect of microneedling with 2 different depths of penetration on promoting hair growth in patients with Androgenetic Alopecia.​

Methods: Sixty patients, in the age of 18-45 years old with moderate and severe Androgenetic Alopecia, were allocated into 3 groups of control: treatment with minoxidil 5% lotion; group A: treatment with minoxidil 5% lotion and biweekly microneedling with a depth of 1.2 mm and group B: treatment with minoxidil 5% lotion and biweekly microneedling with a depth of 0.6 mm during 12 weeks. Efficacy parameters including change of hair count and hair thickness from baseline and assessment of hair growth by patient and investigator were evaluated.​

Results: Compared with the baseline, a significant increase in hair count and hair thickness was observed in all three groups after completion of the treatment course (P < .05). The mean rise in hair count (P = .017) and hair thickness (P = .007) was significantly greater in group B compared with control group. Investigator's evaluation of hair regrowth was significantly greater in group A (P = .04) and group B (P = .007) compared with control group.​

Conclusion: Microneedling with a depth of 0.6 mm in combination with minoxidil is more effective than minoxidil monotherapy in patients with Androgenetic Alopecia in terms of hair count and hair thickness. This depth of penetration tended to be more beneficial than depth of 1.2 mm.​

 

iCloud

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This study has been discussed in this thread before. I remember because I purchased it from Wiley :)
The full article was posted here.
 

Pigeon

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This study has been discussed in this thread before. I remember because I purchased it from Wiley :)
The full article was posted here.
haha okay, I see it's from september, should've known you guys already posted it.
 

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So I have been micro needling for 3 years now, initially I experienced some regrowth but that tailed of pretty soon after starting. However, I do believe that it had played an important role in maintaining my hair/keeping it healthy, hence my reason for keeping it up. My routine had been microneedling with a 1.5mm dermastamp 1-2times a week.

Recently I got pretty sick of my dermastamps breaking pretty soon after purchasing them (from Amazon), the final straw was when the needles on my new stamp detached from its body the first use. Hence, I decided to bite the bullet and purchase a Dr.Pen A6 and change my routine to microneedling once a week at 1.5mm depth.

Previously when manually dermastamping I would very rarely get visible blood, the areas would get red but this would last no longer than a day. Since using the A6 my scalp bleeds wherever I pass with the pen, it is also significantly more painful. I'm not sure whether this is due to the pen tearing the skin more due to moving it whilst its going up and down and this motion causing micro tears, or whether it generally penetrates a lot deeper/creates more incisions per cm2 . Now my scalp remains visibly red and sore 2days after my sessions.

Now for the reason of this post... I am roughly 1 month into my new routine (3 sessions) and genuinely my hair has been feeling a lot thicker and generally healthier. I took some progress pictures and it even looks thicker, but I think this may be due to the difference in lighting rather than actual regrowth as it has not even been a month. There is no doubt however that I prefer mechanical needling to manually doing it, although I am doubtful whether the A6 is creating clean incisions rather than microtears.

Edit - forgot to mention picture 1 is before recent change in routine, picture 2 is 1 month in (current)
 

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bluecyclone

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When starting out do people test on nape or somewhere covered? Have a derma pend A8 but afraid to begin. Is there shedding?
 

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Results are undeniable and it came it weeks!

You answered your own question; you stopped seeing results because the derma stamps didn't cause enough 'damage'.
 

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So I have been micro needling for 3 years now, initially I experienced some regrowth but that tailed of pretty soon after starting. However, I do believe that it had played an important role in maintaining my hair/keeping it healthy, hence my reason for keeping it up. My routine had been microneedling with a 1.5mm dermastamp 1-2times a week.

Recently I got pretty sick of my dermastamps breaking pretty soon after purchasing them (from Amazon), the final straw was when the needles on my new stamp detached from its body the first use. Hence, I decided to bite the bullet and purchase a Dr.Pen A6 and change my routine to microneedling once a week at 1.5mm depth.

Previously when manually dermastamping I would very rarely get visible blood, the areas would get red but this would last no longer than a day. Since using the A6 my scalp bleeds wherever I pass with the pen, it is also significantly more painful. I'm not sure whether this is due to the pen tearing the skin more due to moving it whilst its going up and down and this motion causing micro tears, or whether it generally penetrates a lot deeper/creates more incisions per cm2 . Now my scalp remains visibly red and sore 2days after my sessions.

Now for the reason of this post... I am roughly 1 month into my new routine (3 sessions) and genuinely my hair has been feeling a lot thicker and generally healthier. I took some progress pictures and it even looks thicker, but I think this may be due to the difference in lighting rather than actual regrowth as it has not even been a month. There is no doubt however that I prefer mechanical needling to manually doing it, although I am doubtful whether the A6 is creating clean incisions rather than microtears.

Edit - forgot to mention picture 1 is before recent change in routine, picture 2 is 1 month in (current)
Awesome! What speed are you using the A6 on?
 

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And yet another great result form minoxidil/needling combo:

https://www.reddit.com/r/tressless/comments/kyt7ae
I've been tracking my progress and YES! It works.It is the best thing I've ever done for my hairloss.

Check the pictures he posted, incredible.

@werefckd @D!DNothin'Wr0ng "N..needling, minoxidil doens't work!!!!" LMFAO, you disbelievers getting owned on the regular.
That guy took big amounts of vitamin D. From his thread on reddit:
I took 100,000 IU a week
That is 4x the maximum recommended daily intake (4,000 IU x 7 days = 28,000 IU per week).

There is another guy (Jared) who used aggressive massages + 50,000 IU vitamin D a week with similar success.

I know most people think vitamin D doesn't regrow hair on its own (which I agree with), but maybe the reason behind this success is wounding + vitamin D, because vitamin D plays a role in anagen initiation and HF proliferation. (obviously, minoxidil plays a big role too)
 

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50k iu of Vit D is potentially toxic on its own. There was an ‘Ivory dome’ theory going round a few years ago about the potential of Vit D, Vit K2 & magnesium oil as a treatment though.
 

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How long are you going to continue to strawman me?

I did not say that needling "doesn't work", I said that you get hyped up over sh*t results and most DIY rollers fail. You're just pissed because I got in the way of your copium drip.

Secondly, yeah that looks great. Full recovery.

Too bad we'll never know if the minoxidil or the rolling is to thank given that he only started minoxidil 4 months ago and those results have happened before from minoxidil before.

Hope he's on finasteride so as to keep them.
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"S..s..strawmannnn!" Are you so dumb? You know everyone could see what you were trying to do right? Just lmfao

Get wrecked troll! Your game is up.
 

KNemo

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Did you use betadine before or after rolling?
Mostly after. Washed scalp needled applied iodine and let it be for half an hour to a few hours then washed it away.

When starting out do people test on nape or somewhere covered? Have a derma pend A8 but afraid to begin. Is there shedding?
Didn't try anywhere else but the first time wasn't pleasant though mostly mentally, physically yes there's some pain but it's not that bad and goes away after half an hour or so maximum. Actually kind of miss the effects I had the first few months was like my scalp came alive again, hard to describe.
I didn't shed or at least didn't notice (had a zero guard buzz).
 
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