Very Impressive Dermarolling And Minxodil Results - From Tressless

[cryingariver]

Anyone have higher heart rate from minoxidil? If so what did you do, lower dose?

A few weeks ago, i put on minoxidil right after microneedling, just to try something new and see if i get better results. my body spas'd out! shakes, chills, massive headache. from now on I only put it on 24 hours ago needling. When i wait 24 hours, I don't feel anything when i put on minoxidil.

 

[Einstein]

Anyone have higher heart rate from minoxidil? If so what did you do, lower dose?

It should go away after a few weeks on it’s own, and more than 3mL also can cause heart palpitations. Avoid applying to damp head or immediately after shower

 

[Intrigued77777777]

Is there really a huge difference in results between using a dermaroller and a pen?

 

[cloudsanrain]

Is there really a huge difference in results between using a dermaroller and a pen?

I like using a stamp . I am getting good results with it an it dont pull my hair out like a pen dose .

 

[Intrigued77777777]

I like using a stamp . I am getting good results with it an it dont pull my hair out like a pen dose .

Does your stamp allow adjusting how deep? If so, I'd be quite interested in a good stamp.

 

[ryan82]

https://www.reddit.com/r/tressless/comments/qig1pc

And new study showing again that minoxidil + needling works

Microneedling in androgenetic alopecia; comparing two different depths of microneedles - PubMed

Microneedling with a depth of 0.6 mm in combination with minoxidil is more effective than minoxidil monotherapy in patients with Androgenetic Alopecia in terms of hair count and hair thickness. This depth of penetration tended to be more beneficial than depth of 1.2 mm.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Is this only needeling only or better absorption minoxidil?

 

[cloudsanrain]

Does your stamp allow adjusting how deep? If so, I'd be quite interested in a good stamp.

Yes it dose adjust but they are not real durable . I have to buy one about every three to four months .

 

[Intrigued77777777]

Yes it dose adjust but you they are not real durable . I have to buy one about every three to four months .

Is there a recommended roller to buy? Looked on Amazon, wasn't a huge amount of choice/one standing out.

 

[Chromeo]

Is there a recommended roller to buy? Looked on Amazon, wasn't a huge amount of choice/one standing out.

It doesn't really matter, but make sure you get one with actual individual needles and not metal discs.

 

[Nsas]

Yes it dose adjust but you they are not real durable . I have to buy one about every three to four months .

What stamp are you using?

 

[iCloud]

Here is a new article about microneedling:

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onlinelibrary.wiley.com

This is interesting:

Increasing the overall treatment duration of microneedling and reducing the frequency of microneedling sessions may positively influence an increase in total hair count.

 

[hairloss_user]

I see the cancer thing has been brought up again. So just to be safe I will cut down from 1.0 mm needling every 2 -3 weeks to once a month. That should be safe right? I just can’t see how a small 1.0 mm wound would take several months to heal as some have said.

Can I still do daily light needling at 0.25 mm, let’s say a week after a needling session at 1.0 mm or is that a bad idea?

 

[44core]

Did anyone ever discuss the needle diameter?

Maybe I'm wrong but we shouldn't be able to achieve 1600 wounds per cm², like follica, with existing devices.
A cm² offers the space of 100mm - If we take the Derminator2 which got a needle diameter of .15mm we can reach max. ~666 single wounds. So the needle diameter of follica's device would be max. around .06mm if the holes should be separately

edit: Just posted it in Follica Microneedling Protocol Patent Disclosed | Page 52 | HairLossTalk Forums

 

[cloudsanrain]

What stamp are you using?

Adjustable from Ebay .

 

[KNemo]

Did anyone ever discuss the needle diameter?

Maybe I'm wrong but we shouldn't be able to achieve 1600 wounds per cm², like follica, with existing devices.
A cm² offers the space of 100mm - If we take the Derminator2 which got a needle diameter of .15mm we can reach max. ~666 single wounds. So the needle diameter of follica's device would be max. around .06mm if the holes should be separately

edit: Just posted it in Follica Microneedling Protocol Patent Disclosed | Page 52 | HairLossTalk Forums

Wounds close very fast and the 1600 includes overlapping wounds.

 

[44core]

Wounds close very fast and the 1600 includes overlapping wounds.

The fast closing is a point I'm also thinking about. And if overlapping isnt a big deal it's not that complicated at all.
I'd be interested in the follica needle thickness anyways though.

 

[charcoal]

Our friend Dr Rachita Dhurat (who did the two big microneedling studies, and is also involved with Follica and MinoxiBoost) has co-edited a chapter on microneedling in the book Techniques in the Evaluation and Management of Hair Diseases.
She says that doing it weekly, at 1.5mm (dermaroller), is the best protocol.
I found the chapter online:

https://books.google.be/books?id=vk...epage&q=rachita sanober microneedling&f=false

I found her clinic in India. It's in my city. Maybe I should consult her and get microneedling treatment from her directly

 

[iCloud]

I found her clinic in India. It's in my city. Maybe I should consult her and get microneedling treatment from her directly

If I was living in your city I would definitely book a consultation with her and pick her brain about microneedling (and the SULT1A1 enzyme booster).

 

[74775446]

I cannot believe this thread is 719 pages and still going.

 

[genericwhitemale]

I cannot believe this thread is 719 pages and still going.

How are you holding up?

Needling hasn't been the solution I was hoping for, personally.