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Very Impressive Dermarolling And Minxodil Results - From Tressless

Discussion in 'New Research, Studies, and Technologies' started by ZenHead, Oct 10, 2018.

  1. PeggyPeterson

    PeggyPeterson Established Member My Regimen

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    The author of the Journal is an advisor of Follica.. I don’t know what to make of it though. Is Follica just being desperate? Or do they truly see something ground breaking in her research.

    Another question that may be worth considering is that the participants were of Indian decent.. maybe they have different version of Baldness.
     
  2. infinitepain

    infinitepain Experienced Member

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    Which format of betadine? there's shampoo, soap, and I think liquid

    I would buy the shampoo, leave it 5 minutes, dry my hair, derminator 2 all over, then the soap? but if there's blood, I would need to take another shower, then dry the scalp, shampoo it again, then apply the soap and leave it on there? or perhaps liquid, who knows. There's also gel. I don't know which format to use. Soap or gel may be too sticky and cluter the movement of the needle? or it's strong enough that it doesn't matter?

    What worries me: Taking a shower right after using the derminator: Im concerned that there's sh*t on my bathroom like mold spores, and other crap typical in humid environments like a bathroom, going into my head. Lime on the shower, and so on.

    Using the dryier makes all those particles fly all over the place.

    I just don't f*****g know how to go about it. I would need an environment similar to surgeon's to not be concerned about infections.
     
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  3. infinitepain

    infinitepain Experienced Member

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    Im not, you are validating it if anything. Again, if there is no permanent change on the scalp, then what difference does it make to put minoxidil right after, assuming you only do the dermapening at the standard rate of monthly of bi weekly sessions. It's just one day of increased minoxidil absorption. How relevant could that be?
     
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    infinitepain Experienced Member

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    I want to ask, anyone here from europe? How long does it take for the derminator 2 to get to France for instance? I want to start ASAP, im going to buy 1 year supply of cartridges. Is everyone using the 12 needles one? and what speed are you using it at? i see theres slow medium and fast. Im not sure if the studies reported these details? or are all of the studies with rollers?
     
  5. JJL58

    JJL58 Established Member My Regimen

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    Dude just relax and buy the antiseptic liquid solution. It's really not a big deal. You are over complicating everything. I use this:


    https://www.walgreens.com/store/c/betadine-antiseptic-solution/ID=prod1544040-product


    This is my safety regimen:

    1. Soak dermaroller in isopropyl alcohol
    2. Shower. Wash scalp thoroughly.
    3. Apply betadine to scalp. Let sit for 10 minutes so it penetrates scalp. Don't rinse.
    4. Dermaroll with betadine still on scalp.
    5. When finished, rinse dermaroller under tap water to rinse off debris. Soak again in isopropyl alcohol.
    6. Rinse off scalp / blood / betadine with cold water .
    7. Dry scalp with clean paper towels. Re apply betadine. Let sit for 10 minutes.
    8. Rinse, dry, put everything away. Don't let anything unclean touch scalp for a day at least. Wait 12 - 24 hrs for Minoxidil.

    It's so easy and safe. I roll with intensity and really draw blood and I've never had an issue.
     
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  6. overpourgoodfortune

    overpourgoodfortune Established Member My Regimen

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    There are around ~250 people (give or take some) needling in this thread. Whether inspired by the thread to start - or that have come out of the woodwork and posted on here that it is part of their regimen.

    And those are only the ones that have posted anything. I wonder how many more are lurking?
     
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    This plus the fact that the original photo quality and hair length differences in the before/after didn't leave me with much confidence. Not a lot, if any, people are reporting results with just needling. After @yayapapaya replied to one of my postings I decided to add minoxidil. I was three months in just needling and frankly now I'm not interested anymore in stabbing my scalp and causing 2-3 days of an unexplained and ugly red scalp (I wet shave so no hair to hide it) for an entire year just for a chance at a few more follicles.

    Hopefully the next three months with min added will give me some noticeable improvement to justify all of this.
     
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    74775446 Established Member My Regimen

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    I think a problem with the study - and a reason for the high response rate in the study - is that they only used Indian men.

    I would put money on them being better responders to this than the average, non-Indian, man. Indians tend to be diffuse thinners and this seems to be most effective on diffuse hair loss.
     
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    If it's most effective on diffuse thinning, I should be a great responder.
     
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    74775446 Established Member My Regimen

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    That doesn't mean it will be effective on every diffuse thinner.
     
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    Where are the long term minoxidil users who started Microneedling recently?
     
  12. JJL58

    JJL58 Established Member My Regimen

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    Holy sh*t will some of you guys delay instant gratification and give this a proper trial
     
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  13. ZidaneBaldGod

    ZidaneBaldGod Established Member My Regimen

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    Okay guys, just as i promised. Here are the month two pictures.

    I'm no photographer, but i used the same light as last time, and took the pictures in the same room and angle.

    Harsh lights
    20190303_134403.jpg 20190303_134459.jpg

    Darker lights
    20190303_134434.jpg
    20190303_134631.jpg 20190303_134657.jpg
    I actually have no idea if i got any improvement. With my pattern, it's super hard to tell.
    What i can tell you for sure though, is that my hair did not get much worse, so i'm 90% sure that this sh*t works for maintenance.
    Also my hair looks super healthy and sebum free, so that's a plus.

    Someone with a good eye might be able to help me see if there's any improvement.

    Just keep in mind that my hair is much longer here.
     
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  14. JJL58

    JJL58 Established Member My Regimen

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    We have near identical balding
     
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    JJL58 Established Member My Regimen

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    Btw you have regrowth. Keep the course
     
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    If the lightning is the same, I see improvement.
     
  17. ZidaneBaldGod

    ZidaneBaldGod Established Member My Regimen

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    Just to make this easier for you guys.

    Month 1:
    20190303_141843.jpg



    Month 2:
    20190303_134403.jpg
    My hair is much longer in photo 2. Because of my weird pattern, it's super hard to tell if i have any improvement.
     
  18. JJL58

    JJL58 Established Member My Regimen

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    I still see regrowth and thickening. Turn up the intensity now.
     
  19. ZidaneBaldGod

    ZidaneBaldGod Established Member My Regimen

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    I don't see much improvement, the thickening you mention is very minor, the darker hair you see is mostly because it's longer.
    I will definitely cut my hair for month 3 photos.

    I do see healthy written all over my hair though.
     
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    JJL58 Established Member My Regimen

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    It's gotten better. Roll harder now and with more intensity. It's key
     

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