Very Impressive Dermarolling And Minxodil Results - From Tressless

qwerty07

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Do you consume pumpkin seed oil and and turmeric in the form of capsules or food items?

I use the Puritans pride brand of Tumeric and Pumpkin seed oil. Both in capsules. 1000mg each. I take 1 Pso and 1 Tumeric a day.
 

albert

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Minoxidil afaik has a lifetime of around 22 hours, so assuming the healing of the scalp is almost done in a couple of days.. thats just a couple of days of increased absorption in 14 days.

Unless dermarolling or penning has a permanent change in the structure of the scalp allowing for increased absorption even if you do it every 2 weeks as the chinese study, i don't see how it would be relevant to put minoxidil right after. Just trying to use logic here.

I agree with the first part almost entirely (except that healing of the scalp is just 2 days, it’s much longer - but I get what you meant) and also wanted to add something.

If we assume for a moment that dermarolling helps to get rid of fibrosis (not a small assumption though), it’d imply that Minoxidil would penetrate better and perhaps that explains why people (like me) with years of Minoxidil before didn’t have great results until now.

On the other hand even though I started putting Minoxidil right after, I’m not so sure if it’s beneficial or not so I can’t take any side.
 

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I'm a norwood 2 and I've been dermarolling more than 2 months now and have been seeing som light fuzz at my temples and front, but yesterday I notice a couple of tall hairs at my right temple on a bald spot close to my hairline like it's starting to close in.
 

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About to do 6th session, but so far nothing to report other than what looks like baby hairs(vellus?) on the temple point area. Had my first experience with heart rate increase using min. I did a bit over the usual 1ml and starting feeling really anxious shortly after, which made it hard to go to sleep. I've only been using min at night
 

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This is a bit off topic. I want to make a DIY topical using Rosemary oil. What kind of ethanol would be okay to use as a driver? Please let me know. Thanks
 

albert

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I'm a norwood 2 and I've been dermarolling more than 2 months now and have been seeing som light fuzz at my temples and front, but yesterday I notice a couple of tall hairs at my right temple on a bald spot close to my hairline like it's starting to close in.

I can definitely see those and even this morning I noticed a single hair in the very front, quite far from the rest. Probably somewhere where my original hairline was. These kind of things make you even happier (even though I’m buzzed and I already see a lot of changes overall).
 

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I started microneedling last Friday after seeing this & the other thread, just finished my second session.
I use the MyM derma pen, which is pretty good, and only cost $25 on ebay.
I'm NW2-2.5, have been using minoxidil for a year.
I've lost some ground since I started min, but here's hoping that changes. Just a week after my first session some of my tiny blond temple hairs have turned black.
2.5mm weekly, lidocaine 2% prior, minoxidil immediately after.
 

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But it is true, most of the best regrowths are from finasteride+min users, dutasteride users.. dermaroll/pen only users are a novelty so not as much evidence of success.

What's clear is that we want ideally use EVERYTHING. We must nuke androgens from our scalp as well as use whatever growth factors this triggers. Of course we must do it locally, not become choirboys.. that's the challenge.

I'll never take finasteride. I found the Indian study while I was looking for alternatives to finasteride and hair transplants lol.

I agree with what you've said but my motivation for finding a solution to hair loss was my fear of taking finasteride and experiencing sides.
 

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If we assume for a moment that dermarolling helps to get rid of fibrosis (not a small assumption though), it’d imply that Minoxidil would penetrate bette

Absortion /effect of minoxidil can be modified only with damp scalp
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27356887
Minoxidil topical treatment may be more efficient if applied on damp scalp in comparison with dry scalp.

also a thread
https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...se-absorption-of-minoxidil-by-3-5times.58392/

BTW interesting about grapefruit and finas

Good old times, I "knew" Bryan in alt.baldspot.sci,
 

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Minoxidil afaik has a lifetime of around 22 hours, so assuming the healing of the scalp is almost done in a couple of days.. thats just a couple of days of increased absorption in 14 days.

Unless dermarolling or penning has a permanent change in the structure of the scalp allowing for increased absorption even if you do it every 2 weeks as the chinese study, i don't see how it would be relevant to put minoxidil right after. Just trying to use logic here.

It likely doesn't have a permanent change in the scalp, which means it is super relevant to put minoxidil right after.
Looks like you are defeating your own argument here?

I am doing light penning every other day to help absorption as well during the healing process, because I believe the scalp closes up quickly. So I don't change my minoxidil regimen, just more penning = more absorption, and the sooner the better so scalp is still wide open in my opinion.
 

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My wrist hurts from scrolling through 300 something pages but I decided to compile the most significant results from earlier in the thread. On microneedling this is (given none of these are fakes) all we really know for sure.

I don't think we have any information, good or bad, yet on maintenance over the long term. From what I saw even 2young wouldn't post current pictures although claims his hair stayed.

I'm in the process of gathering photos to add to this later, there are also some other examples from tressless that I have to look into

74775446 aka Numbers (holy crap I missed that war, Brotzu rest his soul)



2young2retire



prettyfly83



MyThinningConfidence



MinervaCGI has a bunch of impressive pictures he didn't source lol

MussNuss



Ludachris Batbak



layabout



Gomi (get a drink for this one)



chen



Hakandogan



Claims to address

"Minoxidil affects collagen"
"Minoxidil immediately applied affects regrowth"
"Minoxidil immediately applied is unsafe"
"Needling affects calcification or fibrosis"
"Hair regrows in the same order it bald...balded (beld?)"
"Drawing blood triggers regrowth"
"Needling alone can or can't produce regrowth"
"Basically does any topical besides minoxidil affect regrowth"

Let me know if I am missing information. If you would like to contribute to this list please post photos with cosmetically substantial regrowth. It's much harder to tell why a result hasn't occurred than to speculate why a clear result did occur

Other good writeups

Very Impressive Dermarolling

And Minxodil Results - From Tressless

Very Impressive Dermarolling And Minxodil Results - From Tressless
Amazing work!

Would you mind copy-pasting that into the survey thread I created, so we have all the results photos with the survey data in one place?

Thanks
 

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This is a bit off topic. I want to make a DIY topical using Rosemary oil. What kind of ethanol would be okay to use as a driver? Please let me know. Thanks
Isn't rosemary a small enough molecular weight as an essential oil to pass through skin without a vehicle?
 

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Some good Needling+minoxidil results (3 months) on the hairline via Reddit /r/tressless from /u/hairlossblows:

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The photos are roughly three months apart, both taken with wet hair, hair length is approximately the same because I've had a haircut in between the photos. I made them black and white because the different white balances made comparing the photos harder.

What do you think? I definitely feel like there's a difference in the middle section of my hairline. Before, I could see the scalp in the front even in normal lighting conditions. Now it's only really noticeable in harsh conditions like a bathroom light. Temples have started sprouting baby hairs, nothing that's cosmetically significant yet though. I don't know if it's the shampoos or biotin (or maybe both) but my hair feels a lot thicker these days
Current regime:

  • Minoxidil 5% liquid spray once a day
  • Daily vitamins E, B, Zink & Biotin (Narovital)
  • Nizoral 2-3 times a week
  • Regenpure for days I don't use Nizoral
  • Microneedling with pen set to 1.7mm on hairline/temples and 2.0mm on crown every 7-10 days
Before I started all of this I contacted my doctor and he had me do a bunch of blood tests. He said everything came back fine but he was hesitant to put me on finasteride due to sides and told me to first try other methods and get back to him if it got worse. It definitely hasn't gotten worse, but I'm still down to try finasteride. But maybe it's dumb to do right now if my current regime is working?
 

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Guys. The reason why the Indian study worked so well is because they used betadine during and after. This is important and being missed by many.

Google "iodine hair growth"
 

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Little patch of hair at the hairline bottom pic is 1 month and top pic is 2.5 months. The arrow is pointing to a little red mole I have and the circles are the same hairs in the pics. Noticed tiny little hairs sprouting at around a month. Looks like some of those tiny hairs have grown out and more are sprouting
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Wouldn't it be better to use it topical?
Your right, I could try that as well. Its really helped my acne. It don't believe it messes with testosterone as I have a very healthy libido, feel great and have no side effects as far as I can tell, knock on wood. I guess taking mild DHT blockers internally, and using them topically might yield better results? Who knows.
 
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