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Very Impressive Dermarolling And Minxodil Results - From Tressless

Discussion in 'New Research, Studies, and Technologies' started by ZenHead, Oct 10, 2018.

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    Pay close attention that he also does it with 1.0 mm roller, not trying to get the bleeding. Many people here think that it is more effective with 1.5-2.0 mm and with getting the bleeding..
     
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    Yes. And minoxidil 24hours in your head. If dermaroller 1.0 is too much. Try use 0.5 or 0.75
     
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    bigjimmy Established Member My Regimen

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    Impressive!
     
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    Thanks for sharing!!
    What we are trying here is actually doing with 1.5 - 2.0 mm every 7-10 days. However, from now on I am a bit confused, what is better: 1.0mm every day or what we were trying to stick to before.
     
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    Me Vs DiffuseThinning Experienced Member My Regimen

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    IF you're a good responder to minoxidil, then light rolling everyday + minoxidil-everyday is equally effective as hard rolling once a week + minoxidil-everyday
     
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    You need food every day or only once a week?
     
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    J0ker Established Member My Regimen

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    Just bought a different 1.5mm dermastamp (this one has 80 needles instead of 140 that I usually use once every 7-10 days).
    Also bought 2 1mm dermarollers. One that has 192 needles with "real needles" and the other with 540 needles with "fake needles" (discs).

    Gonna be seeing what I like the best and experimenting with more frequent stamping and rolling.
     
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    I just don’t know if I could tolerate that much needling, maybe I’ll try 1mm everyday with my pen tomorrow and see how it goes. I didn’t think 1.5mm to 1mm was a big enough drop to warrant every day use, sounds intense
     
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    Guys, something really depressing happened today. I posted this picture below yesterday and told you that I first time realised how bad my hair on the top of my head is. Today first time ever a friend told me, dude you are almost bald on top of your head, what's going on. :(
     

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    Apart from not knowing how bad could it be to needle every day your scalp there is one big reason I wouldnt do so:
    I'm not going to spend 10 minutes every day sterilizing my needles nor spending 2€ on a new cartridge every day.
    As good as Chen results are, I'll stick to one 1,75 session every 10-14 days
     
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    Hey guys I think some of you got this pen too:
    https://www.amazon.de/Elektrische-M...s=dermapen&dpPl=1&dpID=41vcaSP6ZeL&ref=plSrch

    The thing is I only feel the pen vibrating and not doing up and down motion so I am worried that I damage my skin.
    Any chance one of you with the same pen has a high speed camera to check if it is really moving up and down?

    Thank you

    Edit: it is indeed going up and down was able to try with the slow motion mode of a camera!!!!
     
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    Guys, I miss my insane Minoxidil Gains so much. I'm crying right now. Minoxidil was so crazy for me, but couldn't hold it. :(
     

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    I'm using this pen, it's 100% going up and down.
     
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    Between the brohawk story and chen. I think they are two great examples of this treatments potential. You have two guys that have been needling for 2-3 years and continue to get results. Yes it may be slow at times, but it seems it can work indefinitely.

    That to me is the major difference to me than with any other treatment. You can hopefully continue to compound and keep your results with this. It definitely shows though people must be patient.
     
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    Awesome results! Congrats
     
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    1.5+ needling and 0.5 needling are basically two different methods of action.

    Deeper needling (spaced out) will do more to spur the body to form & repair follicles.

    Shallow needling (every day) is doing more to help absorption of topicals being applied.


    I doubt that 0.5 needling (every day) would be very effective without any topicals.
     
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    jared garnith Established Member My Regimen

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    How quickly did you recede on the norwood scale if you don't mind me asking? I didn't respond to 7.5 mg of oral minoxidil, do you think this could be more beneficial?
     
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    Pretty fast thinning and some receding.
    I never tried oral minoxidil. You best bet is to use try topical and needling together. You may respond, maybe not. If you don't respond, you will need seti.
     
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    Wtf.... Chen, not only your results are awesome, but you also provide some valuable clues that answer some of the biggest questions that still remain regarding microneesling: optimal frequency.
    We still can make bold conclusions based upon a single individual, but I think we can argue that the "don't needle to often" and "you gotta let your scalp recover" might actually be just speculation without empirical evidence. With Chen, and also partially with Somebody (Alex), we could begin to suspect that needling everyday at least DOES NOT hinder regrowth, as many dudes here have claimed.

    Also, Chen's case also provides support to the idea that unlike minoxidil, microneedling gains are not lost with time, and moreover, regrowth can keep happening even after years. This last thing had somewhat been documented before when PrettyFly claimed he was still gaining ground after 2 years, but was somewhat doubted again when 2young2retire came here a couple of months ago and was avoiding questions regarding his current hair status.

    Again, as with science, and as a golden rule in statistics, solid conclusions must not be made with single cases, but at least we should take Chen's insifhtful case as a starting point to try high frequency needling.
    I will personally keep needling only once a week for a year. If I see no progress, I will follow a more aggressive approach like Chen does.

    This might be the start of a paradigm shift guys. At first we didn't have data coz studies didn't test this aspect, now we are starting to get some.
     
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    The above poster made some good points I believe. It could be light rolling every day is just an absorbtion enhancement. Food for thought
     

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