Update From The God Himself - Dr. Takashi Tsuji

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These hair loss forums know more than the companies themselves.

We were so sure Tsuji was going to make it he was backed by all these credentials there was Riken behind him, he was a Gemini, he was our savior. Then as always delays and money made his prospects to us look like sh*t but now the new prophet is Stemson to which we have no concrete evidence they will grant our wish either only conjecture.

Just beware guys Tsujis hype train had comfy seats also.
You’re entitled to what you want to think
 

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You’re entitled to what you want to think
I mean, H was not certainly wrong about what he said, it was not based on evidences nor science, but we do know that hair loss research is often doomed to fail... because of the past things. Although we should look forward, because the science we got today is pretty clear and ambitious.
 

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I mean, H was not certainly wrong about what he said, it was not based on evidences nor science, but we do know that hair loss research is often doomed to fail... because of the past things. Although we should look forward, because the science we got today is pretty clear and ambitious.
Well the only thing that constantly gets brought up is some crappy research from 2006 or garbage companies like Replicel or Folliculm. Tsuji’s company clearly have no idea how to manage business and I’m not surprised they haven’t found an investor with the kind of price they are wanting to charge. Stemson, kintor, Cassiopeia, OliX, Aneira are the king of companies to look out for (possibly Yokohama). Are ALL hair loss companies companies going to come through? Of course not. But you should invest in the companies that make the most sense.
 

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I like animals. I have a cat and a dog and can't imagine my life without them. They are family members, so of course, I can't even think about eating them. I take care of them like after children, protect them from fleas and ticks with the Pet Pharmacy products, play with them, take them to the vet, etc. But I'm not a vegetarian, I eat meat, and I find it ok to eat pigs, though I'm not sure I'd want to eat it if it were my pig.
Just wait till there's a famine and you will be thinking about poor Fido on a spit, twirling around. That's how you make Korean barbecue.
 

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And yet we don't even know if they succeded in the pig trails, we should have known since the end of Q1 2021, but we are entering soon Q3.
Do not use Fortunis as a source, they are the businessman, not the guys behind the science.

We should be cautious with giving out any informations, especially on the net. We should label these infos as assumptions.
They never once said they would be giving us any data in Q1 2021, just that they would be closing a next round of funding.
 

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I would never wear a hairpiece, I don't care how well made it is. Not everyone thinks like you, someone will pay it. I wouldn't pay that much for it either, but if I had a hundred million, I would pay one percent of it to get the treatment two years early. There are a limited number of spots available. If you're looking for a 100% guarantee that doesn't exist. Even after clinical trials are done you still won't have your guarantee that it will last for years and be safe long term. You'll have basically the same level of assurance that someone participating in the phase II trial will have, little more
This is exactly my point and why I think he has yet to get funding or a strategic partner. You can't create a business that targets "people with a hundred million who would take a shot" in a clinical trial. If they had any business sense at all they would recruit any man off the street with ideal characteristics for trials and preform them 100% free. With 10 proof of concept patients you'd get booked out very quickly.
 
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They never once said they would be giving us any data in Q1 2021, just that they would be closing a next round of funding.
Sorry then, I comprehended it wrongly then. I was expecting them to announce stuff after closing round. Thanks for pointing out!
 

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Sorry then, I comprehended it wrongly then. I was expecting them to announce stuff after closing round. Thanks for pointing out!
They might, or they could be waiting to finalize their business planning with the money and then make an announcement. This is all speculative, for all we know they had major setbacks on pigs and the funding fell apart. :rolleyes:
 

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This is exactly my point and why I think he has yet to get funding or a strategic partner. You can't create a business that targets "people with a hundred million who would take a shot" in a clinical trial. If they had any business sense at all they would recruit any man off the street with ideal characteristics for trials and preform them 100% free. With 10 proof of concept patients you'd get booked out very quickly.
They have laws in Japan about how they can recruit people for clinical trials. I don't have the link to it anymore, but the point is we don't know what they are planning to do. To me it isn't the clinical trial price that's a problem, it's the price at official market launch when they can start advertising that is the problem. Since there will only be a limited number of slots available they could probably charge a couple million for the phase II trials and still fill them
 

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They have laws in Japan about how they can recruit people for clinical trials. I don't have the link to it anymore, but the point is we don't know what they are planning to do. To me it isn't the clinical trial price that's a problem, it's the price at official market launch when they can start advertising that is the problem. Since there will only be a limited number of slots available they could probably charge a couple million for the phase II trials and still fill them
To me, that's completely backwards. There is massive stigma associated with being in clinical trials, thats why many trials have to actually pay people to take part. Now obviously this is a bit different because in the same fashion that you wouldn't need to charge someone with an untreatable illness/disease to get access to a trial therapy, people also want hair.

If I'm a person who would be thinking of doing a procedure like this (which I am in a lower price bracket), I'm not paying that money to be in the trials. I would however pay it to be real client #1 when I can see full documented proof that the procedure works at producing full and natural density. Then my bank account is open.
 

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To me, that's completely backwards. There is massive stigma associated with being in clinical trials, thats why many trials have to actually pay people to take part. Now obviously this is a bit different because in the same fashion that you wouldn't need to charge someone with an untreatable illness/disease to get access to a trial therapy, people also want hair.

If I'm a person who would be thinking of doing a procedure like this (which I am in a lower price bracket), I'm not paying that money to be in the trials. I would however pay it to be real client #1 when I can see full documented proof that the procedure works at producing full and natural density. Then my bank account is open.
What if they show you pictures of ten slick bald people with a full head of hair after phase I? Wouldn't that be enough for you? It would for me. I can't afford the 750k for hair, but if it was 100k I'd be begging them to take my money for a chance to have hair two years sooner than everyone else.
 

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What if they show you pictures of ten slick bald people with a full head of hair after phase I? Wouldn't that be enough for you? It would for me. I can't afford the 750k for hair, but if it was 100k I'd be begging them to take my money for a chance to have hair two years sooner than everyone else.
Yes but that's not what they'll be doing for a phase 1 safety test & proof of human concept test, otherwise that's exactly what I just said. The phase 1 test is going to be patches of hair on bald scalp, similar to the Stemson or Tsuji mice pictures. Would pictures of 10 follicles in one spot after 90 days encourage you to drop 750k if you knew nothing else about the science?
 
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