Tsuji - News Successfully Developed An Expansion Method Of Hf Derived Stem Cells

Trichosan

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I'm a simple man. Give my Jake Gyllenhaal's hair and I'll die happy.

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f***! How can a human being have hair like that! Screw the wealth, when are socialists going to spread the hair around?!
 

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Nah we are getting close. Can't wait to hear about Shiseido's results. Can you imagine if they actually release it next year and that it halts hair loss and gives like 30% regrowth or something? Peace of mind my brother

I would kill for halting loss and 30% regrowth as a diffuse thinner. Would be amazing. Definitely an optimistic estimate though.
 

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When you realise the 2020 Olympics will be held in Japan and half the world is gonna be there:eek:
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how come Michel F. II got banned but nameless is not? Michel F. II was 100x less of a pain to the forum compared to nameless.
these admins these days... unbelievable.
And @Bimmler, @Pithikas too.

inb4 I'm mad because I have a different opinion than them.

NO.

It is because they act like assholes.

I come to this forum because in general, people here are open-minded and compassionate. We are all going through this together and helping each other learn about the topic. There is nothing kind or productive about constantly berating and provoking others. It doesn't matter if you think you are right. It doesn't matter if you ARE right. You should still be empathetic. If you really want to change others' views, you should be patient and try to understand how they feel, listen to what it is they believe, understand why, and help teach them. If you don't give a sh*t about changing their views, then you're just being a prick by constantly causing headache and frustration for others and you shouldn't hang around the forums - isn't that very unfair to everyone else?

Try not to be purposefully rude - it demonstrates poor character and only makes people resent you and not want to listen to you anyway. And when people don't listen, those who want to strong-arm their opinions scream even louder, because people are not listening. They start calling their audience delusional, or assume that their audience is not intelligent, or is in some way, shape, or form, incompetent/incapable.

Try to be aware of the fact that there are people, just like you, on the other side of the screen. Why is that so difficult to understand?

This place, to me, is so much better than reddit's tressless. Over there, you get dismissed and trolled if you say anything negative about finasteride, whereas over here, we can agree that finasteride side effects exist and they suck, and we show each other sympathy. The main difference between the two forums is that at least people here give a sh*t and it's not always about people plugging their ears and screaming out the points of view that they want to believe in. Yet this forum still has a ways to go.
 
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Yeah for sure, that Bimmler troll thread was actually informative and interesting to read for someone like me who doesn't check in that often and is looking for a tune-up on the state of things, the first few pages were good then it devolved into name calling and hurling insults which is a waste of time for everyone reading and potential for good discussion about this stuff.

Plus didn't someone find that Bimmler is on a german forum bragging about trolling this one? Should be a perma-ban, you would think...
 

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It is not logical to me they would keep this small and or slow.

Also--keep in mind how quickly bio and technology is moving now--WHY would they take a chance something less expensive or less difficult may come out over next few years?

If they were unaffordable and or unattainable for too long, they run risk of becoming obsolete being 'passed' for newer technology.

Strike when iron is hot as they say, you don't know what unexpected find or competition is coming around corner-if they have so much invested they are not going to risk being obsolete over a few years time.

I don't think any business people would take that chance.

Exactly my thoughts as well. Look at radial keratotomy for correcting nearsightedness. That procedure was invented in the former USSR at the height of a cold war in 1974 and was being done in the US by 1978. And there are other examples for medical procedures being "Fordized" and globalised i.e. Replicel's Strategy statement: "Driving value through partnerships." Japan is a large market no doubt, but it's just about every company's goal to garner market share and increase revenue streams. Globalisation is the way. Standing still is a recipe for mediocre companies to be run over by globalisation. If this procedure works well, it will be a moneymaker, a license to print money. They would surely standardise the procedure and sell it to companies around the world. Trade secrets only last so long, and so timing is everything. Riken would surely realise their window of opportunity to monopolise the procedure is likely only a few years if that.

And if this procedure actually ends up working with proven efficacy, it will surely be more lucrative than botox, boob jobs, tummy tucks etc. A procedure that works as well as everyone here believes would be a guaranteed license to print money in a time of global economic slowdown and lower consumer demand in general. An ageing population worldwide wants to look and feel better in general not more toys, bling and video games. A treasure trove of untapped demand awaits a procedure like this, and they surely know it.
 
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Exactly my thoughts as well. Look at radial keratotomy for correcting nearsightedness. That procedure was invented in the former USSR at the height of a cold war in 1974 and was being done in the US by 1978. And there are other examples for medical procedures being "Fordized" and globalised i.e. Replicel's Strategy statement: "Driving value through partnerships." Japan is a large market no doubt, but it's just about every company's goal to garner market share and increase revenue streams. Globalisation is the way. Standing still is a recipe for mediocre companies to be run over by globalisation. If this procedure works well, it will be a moneymaker, a license to print money. They would surely standardise the procedure and sell it to companies around the world. Trade secrets only last so long, and so timing is everything. Riken would surely realise their window of opportunity to monopolise the procedure is likely only a few years if that.

And if this procedure actually ends up working with proven efficacy, it will surely be more lucrative than botox, boob jobs, tummy tucks etc. A procedure that works as well as everyone here believes would be a guaranteed license to print money in a time of global economic slowdown and lower consumer demand in general. An ageing population worldwide wants to look and feel better in general not more toys, bling and video games. A treasure trove of untapped demand awaits a procedure like this, and they surely know it.

Agreed, my only worry about this stuff is whether or not it works. If it halts native loss and thickens 30%+ the rest will take care of itself.
 

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One question: is replicel aware of how shiseido phase ii is doing or they are just waiting for results like everyone else?
 

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the first few pages were good then it devolved into name calling and hurling insults which is a waste of time for everyone reading and potential for good discussion about this stuff.
Some words of experience - every long thread devolves into that given enough time.
It's like Murphy's law but with hair and shitposting.
This forum is great but you need to keep your distance, especially when sth awesome comes up and then u spend the next week or two refreshing the page every hour like a junky for any exciting news. I took a 2-3 week break a couple weeks ago. Great decision. I just see that you're a newbie so... Then again maybe you're not the type to obsess over this stuff
 
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One question: is replicel aware of how shiseido phase ii is doing or they are just waiting for results like everyone else?

I'm pretty sure they're waiting like all of us. Considering they aren't on the best of terms, I can't imagine sheisido is doing them any favors outside of what they're contractually obligated to do which is to turn over results after phase 2.
 

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Now I'm sure ....it's time for a HYPE TRAİN

So Tsuji is sure HOW to proceed, but has to do some trials, but human trials are still 1.5 years away.

Then what will they do now? İn those 1.5 years

oh well, what the hell im ready if they want to test it on me .... I really mean it.
my little 4 years old daughter want so so badly to see daddy has some hair on top of his head :)
 

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Can someone explain if Tsuji's technique is similar to Replicels?

Article Summary:
Organ technologies is developing what many expect to be the most viable option for creating an unlimited supply of new hair follicles from hair loss sufferers own heads. They are targeting commercial availability of 2020. Their technique uses your own cells to harvest, multiply, and then inject into areas of the scalp which are losing hair. From there, it will grow on its own.

(https://www.hairlosstalk.com/news/new-research/hair-primordiums-tsuji-organ-interview-sept2016/)

Similar, but with a few key differences.

RepliCel's procedure uses dermal-sheath cup cells, because in their studies in the early 2000s in mice, they could multiply these cells while preserving their ability to produce hair when they were injected back.

Tsuji's uses two different kinds of cells to ostensibly create the hair follicle in vitro and then put that into the patient.
 

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Can someone explain if Tsuji's technique is similar to Replicels?

Article Summary:
Organ technologies is developing what many expect to be the most viable option for creating an unlimited supply of new hair follicles from hair loss sufferers own heads. They are targeting commercial availability of 2020. Their technique uses your own cells to harvest, multiply, and then inject into areas of the scalp which are losing hair. From there, it will grow on its own.

(https://www.hairlosstalk.com/news/new-research/hair-primordiums-tsuji-organ-interview-sept2016/)
In effect, the hope is that Replicel's procedure will immunize follicles and possibly provide some regrowth, whereas Tsuji's procedure will be able to give you a full head of hair. However, Replicel is set to be released a couple of years earlier and will be more accessible and way less expensive.
 

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So can Tsuji bring a Norwood 7 to a 0? I know the first phase was just for safety but why wouldn't they also try and maximize results as well to show off?
 

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So can Tsuji bring a Norwood 7 to a 0? I know the first phase was just for safety but why wouldn't they also try and maximize results as well to show off?
Tsuji hasn't done any trials that was replicel.
 
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