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Short Or Bald Men. Who Do You Think Has It Worse?

Discussion in 'Men's General Hair Loss Discussions' started by dancingkpopchick, May 2, 2019.

  1. stachu

    stachu Experienced Member My Regimen

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    I pick being bald. I am little over 6ft btw.
     
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    Pigeon Senior Member My Regimen

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    Yup, unconditional love is only given by a mother.

    Can't blame women though.
     
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    Derelict Senior Member My Regimen

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    I know sweet f*** all about relationships, but i think the idea that a woman can't love a man unconditionally is a bit skewed.
     
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    Pigeon Senior Member My Regimen

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    You have exceptions but for the most part...

    But believe me, I hope you are right and I'm wrong on this one.
     
  5. INT

    INT Senior Member

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    You are either basing your opinion on your own experience or spent too much time on specific message boards...
     
  6. Pigeon

    Pigeon Senior Member My Regimen

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    I think most men delude themselves into thinking something like "unconditional love" between a man and woman exists.

    Hey believe what you want though, I know the real world isn't like the fairy tale you want it to be.

    Why are you even on this board then? Think that bald men are also not disadvantaged in the dating world? Come on now, stop with the delusions. Life is hard.
     
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    Who are you to decide who is delusional? I am a psychologist that also does couple therapy so I think I am going to stick with my own beliefs...
     
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    So now you are putting opinions in my mouth, just to give yourself a target to attack.
     
  9. Pigeon

    Pigeon Senior Member My Regimen

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    "Argumentum ab auctoritate", nice logical fallacy.

    But again, if you mister psychologist wants to believe that real life is like a Disney movie then so be it. And I hope you are right. Sadly I do think you are wrong.
     
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    Pigeon Senior Member My Regimen

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    It's the same bullshit the average joe on the street spouts too. "hair doesn't matter". Just like you believing in "unconditional love".
     
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    Me Vs DiffuseThinning Experienced Member My Regimen

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    Being short is worse. Being short and bald, like I am, is a death sentence.
     
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    Derelict Senior Member My Regimen

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    Being short is nowhere near as bad as balding.
     
  13. Pigeon

    Pigeon Senior Member My Regimen

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    Oh lawd, let me educate you:

    A man's dating pool is set by his height; >94% of women will reject a man for being "too short"
    Stulp et al (2013) used a sample of 5782 North American speed-daters making 128 104 choices to determine preferences for partner height and how height influenced the formation of a match. They found that women were most likely to choose a speed-dater 25 cm taller than themselves, whereas men were most likely to choose women only 7 cm shorter than themselves. As a consequence, matches were most likely at an intermediate height difference (19 cm) that differed significantly from the preferred height difference of both sexes.

    Their data can be further analyzed to provide data about women's height cutoffs, the benefit of each inch of height for a man, and the degree of competition each man faces based on his height.

    1) Cutoffs:

    Their findings also demonstrated the cutoffs at which women consider a man too short or too tall:

    • 90% of women will reject a man who is 5'4" based solely on his height.
    • 65% of women will reject a man who is 5'7" based solely on his height.
    • 50% of women will reject a man who is 5'8" based solely on his height.
    • 14% of women will reject a man who is 5'10" based solely on his height.
    • 1.5% of women will reject a man who is 6' based solely on his height.
    • Past 6'2", women begin to increase rejections of men for being too tall.
    • 30% of women believe there is no such thing as a man being "too tall."
    • Over 94% of women will reject a man solely for him being too short.
    2) Every Inch Counts:

    Further analysis of their data demonstrates the importance of every inch of height for men, as two inches of height gain for a man can be found to have the following results:

    • A man in the 5'4-5'6" range will have more than double the potential number of female partners with 2" height gain.
    • eg. A 5'4" man will have 2.3 times as many potential female partners by gaining 2" height.
    • A 5'7" man will have 1.86 times as many potential female partners by gaining 2" height.
    • Benefits become insignificant past 5'10".
    • Below 5'1" a 2" height gain also makes an insignificant difference, as even after 2" gain, a man at this height is still "too short" for most women to consider.
    3) Competition:

    Because the few women who are willing to date a shorter men are also generally willing to date a taller man as well, the competition for women willing to date shorter men becomes extremely high. This means:

    • A 5' man must "beat" over 12 men (most of whom will be taller) to get a girl accepting of his height.
    • A 5'4" man will have to "beat" over 7 other men (most of whom will be taller) to get a girl accepting of his height.
    • 5'10 to 6'4" men have the least competition as the demand for these men outpaces their supply, and statistically overall women must compete for these men rather than vice versa.
     
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    Lol what is this argument? That is like saying "most guys like the color blue and most guys like cars, you are a guy that likes blue so therefore you must like cars". Never accuse people of fallacies if you make one yourself.
     
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    That's pretty shocking, but i always see small guys with taller women...maybe they are just friends? lol Im 6 foot 2, not too tall, i have never really paid much attention to my height in terms of attracting women though. I think being bald is still worse.
     
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    It shows how you are (willfully) blind. You understand that balding is a disadvantage in this world (lol I hope so, otherwise you wouldn't have 1900 posts here) but you can't fathom that maybe unconditional love is the same sort of lie as saying hair doesn't matter.

    Maybe it's too hard for you to admit that unconditional love is a fantasy. Anyway, believe what you want, all statistics of the modern (dating) world show a picture that does not fit the "unconditional love" narrative.
     
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    It's because you never knew what it was being a small man in modern dating world. And nobody can blame you for that. Just like the guy with a fullhead of hair doesn't understand all the disadvantages of a bald man.
     
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    False accusation. I only said that I would stick to my own beliefs (given that I have actual professional experience in this topic and have read about it more than most here). I did not say "person x said y, therefore y is true", which in most cases is a fallacy.
     
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    Lol dude, read a book. Because I believe in the disadvantage of balding when it comes to dating I must not believe in true love. That is literally your point...

    Who am I even arguing with, the guy that takes random internet polls serious...
     
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    "professional experience" Sorry, being a psychologist doesn't make you an expert in love. Psychology is also a study in college that mostly attracts people who aren't smart enough for other real science fields. Being a psychologist makes me even more sceptical about your "knowledge"
    Yes I think you're deluding yourself just like guys who think hair does not matter.

    It's time for you to read a book it seems, I'm sorry disney books don't count.

    And lol at that last part, especially when it's coming from someone who also deals with PFS.
     

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