Samumed Sm04554 Results Normalized To Baseline

otann

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Plus, do you really thing that damaging the scalp frequently will not cause you side effect in long term ?

Do you believe that muscle building, fasting, dietary restriction, ice baths, saunas, etc. cause long-term side effects? Humans are not meant to be insulated from all stressors. If done following the proper protocol (i.e., using a well-designed tool at the proper depth and frequency in an aseptic environment), all available evidence indicates that microneedling is perfectly safe. There is a massive difference between chronic damage and acute, controlled inflammation.
 

MeDK

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Do you believe that muscle building, fasting, dietary restriction, ice baths, saunas, etc. cause long-term side effects? Humans are not meant to be insulated from all stressors. If done following the proper protocol (i.e., using a well-designed tool at the proper depth and frequency in an aseptic environment), all available evidence indicates that microneedling is perfectly safe. There is a massive difference between chronic damage and acute, controlled inflammation.

walking around with open wounds have never been save for anyone.

And those aggressive needlers on here might get caught in that problem some day. Its all a question about hygiene. And some environment can attack an open wound without problems. And the real problem can happen if it happens at hospitals where they develop unwanted resistant bacteria's and then the antibiotics won't be working.

Also the whole scaring and "exhausting" the body with constant healing isn't good either. and the older you get the lesser healing properties your body will have.

I'm still shocked about people here needling and then trying to over saturate their scalp and bloodstream with compounds that aren't for open wounds and directly exposed blood stream. But people will find out sooner or later, everything is working "fine" at first but the wall will come.
 

otann

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Again,
If done following the proper protocol ... all available evidence indicates that microneedling is perfectly safe.

If someone harms themselves because they used a $25 Chinese dermaroller with zero antiseptic precautions and poor technique they picked up from a 3-minute video, that doesn't discredit microneedling any more than resistance training is discredited by someone who walks into the gym for the first time and blows out their back deadlifting heavy weight with awful form.

Also the whole scaring and "exhausting" the body with constant healing isn't good either. and the older you get the lesser healing properties your body will have.

This claim is directly contradicted by the work being done at the forefront of longevity research, which espouses the health benefits of the aforementioned therapies. In fact, most of the data suggests that controlled stress is even more beneficial at older ages.
 
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MeDK

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Again,

This claim is directly contradicted by the work being done at the forefront of longevity research, which espouses the health benefits of the aforementioned therapies. In fact, most of the data suggests that controlled stress is even more beneficial at older ages.

So that is why the older the human body gets it gets more fragile?

But do show the research that tells constantly wounding is beneficial for the body. Because if so, why doesn't the human body heal better than it does?
 

HAIRGOAT

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So that is why the older the human body gets it gets more fragile?

But do show the research that tells constantly wounding is beneficial for the body. Because if so, why doesn't the human body heal better than it does?
i use iodine anyway and To catch a infection at 0.8mm to 1mm is tough as it cant creep along the fat layer spreading min in the blood stream once every 2 weeks is hardly frightening compared to what people in this world get up to for fun at weekends also who cares if it loses effectiveness in time its about treading water till something better possibly like this sm0454 comes out.
 

jamesbooker1975

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Do you believe that muscle building, fasting, dietary restriction, ice baths, saunas, etc. cause long-term side effects? Humans are not meant to be insulated from all stressors. If done following the proper protocol (i.e., using a well-designed tool at the proper depth and frequency in an aseptic environment), all available evidence indicates that microneedling is perfectly safe. There is a massive difference between chronic damage and acute, controlled inflammation.

Yeah, tell me that after you get an infection or skin cancer, lol.
 

otann

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Yeah, tell me that after you get an infection or skin cancer, lol.

Needling my face and a few other areas of the skin for 4+ years and my scalp for a little over 2 years now with zero infections, as predicted by the literature.

There's no evidence to support an increase in cancer risk. If you're that concerned about the non-zero chance, I hope you're spending adequate time in your isolation tank in between posts.
 

coolio

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If you don't subject your body to physical stress from gravity all day long, then your bone density goes away fast. Ask the people who live on a space station for a while.

Same for skin callouses. Stop using your hands or feet and the skin quickly loses thickness there.

Muscle development is more of the same.

Some "wounding" and "stress" is a regular part of the body's functioning. I think Follica is trying to hit ragged edge of that principle in a controlled way.
 

John Difool

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Is there a vehicle for SM? Because is action is different thanf minoxidil I imagine it has to be applied separately. Is PG and Ethanol dissolving this?

Still pages of rambling on SM and no one has ever come up with solution to deliver this drug topically? For those ready to experiment on themselves instead of debating ad nauseam what will be the best drug to hit the market in 2050 when most of us are already dead following our own follicles faith, this would be more useful. This forum is full of armchair science, not enough experiments. Just saying...
 

jamesbooker1975

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Needling my face and a few other areas of the skin for 4+ years and my scalp for a little over 2 years now with zero infections, as predicted by the literature.

There's no evidence to support an increase in cancer risk. If you're that concerned about the non-zero chance, I hope you're spending adequate time in your isolation tank in between posts.
"Needling my face and a few other areas of the skin for 4+ years and my scalp for a little over 2 years now with zero infections, as predicted by the literature."
Yep, you don't have one till you have one.
 

John Difool

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I feel sorry for people who have access to an efficacious treatment but don't take advantage of it out of an unfounded fear of infection.

Totally agreed with that statement. There are solutions despite no cure. A year ago, I was freaking out taking duta when fina wore off after 15 years. I thought minoxidil was too cumbersome to take and would rather swallow a pill. Compare that with today Duta, Bica, Estradiol (EV & EH), RU, CB, SM, minoxidil oral and topical, 150 pills of supplement. Hair serums, lotions, and other anti-aging stuff, IGF-1 (mk), there are options.
 

pegasus2

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Totally agreed with that statement. There are solutions despite no cure. A year ago, I was freaking out taking duta when fina wore off after 15 years. I thought minoxidil was too cumbersome to take and would rather swallow a pill. Compare that with today Duta, Bica, Estradiol (EV & EH), RU, CB, SM, minoxidil oral and topical, 150 pills of supplement. Hair serums, lotions, and other anti-aging stuff, IGF-1 (mk), there are options.

Are you actually on all of that stuff at the same time? You must be getting some good results. I take 25 pills a day in supplements, and it's a major hassle.
 

wislow9

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Is this Sm04554 100% legit ¿? Unfortunately have been comments from other forum peoples about other Kane`s drugs that looked poor quality. For example with RU58841 , some batches were pures , but others lost effectiveness over time
I tried a year ago with Kane TM and didnt notice a total disappearance of the itching and seborrhea ...
Some people have been using WAY , that is similar to Sm , but there are few comments about this drug , everything is confusing about concentration ect...
From SM we know the concentration that works in trials , 0,15%.
Please if anybody try , that commented
 

MrJolly26

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Hi! Do you know if this trial is still going on in Turkey? Things are getting pretty ugly everywhere, besides Follicum´s trial is no longer taking place. So, just wondering...

Guess that we are screwed, but hopefully alive! ;)
 
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