Samumed Sm04554 Results Normalized To Baseline

cmoi

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almost 6 weeks now: still shedding as hell even very short hair.
Could you please tell me when in the trial results of phase2, they mention shedding?
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cmoi

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yes more than normal, I see very thick hair shedding... but it's been 6 weeks now...
also that DMSO is horrible i feel my whole face skin drying every morning...
 

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yes more than normal, I see very thick hair shedding... but it's been 6 weeks now...
also that DMSO is horrible i feel my whole face skin drying every morning...
Looking at the phase 2 results, you made only 1/2 of the way to stop the shedding. Considering that hair regrown only after the cessation of the treatmont at month 3, maybe you might stop at this moment, or if you are brave, you continue.
 

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alright, should I continue minoxidil with it? maybe they will interfere?
I don't know if it interfere ( It doesn't in my opinion ) but I know that if you stop minoxidil, you will lose a lot of hair.
 

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yes I already stopped 3 months ago, planning to resume it with sm.
So you stopped minoxidil 3 months ago ? So maybe your abnormal shedding is linked with that cessation. If so, continue SM and don't re-take minoxidil, because if you have regrowth we won't know if it's minoxidil or SM that caused the regrowth.
 

cmoi

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for sure the shedding is not due to minoxidil, usually it shedds for 15 days not more...
ok will keep using SM i hope shedding will stop and see regrowth
 

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"We solved cancer, old age, baldness and Alzheimer's "

(Google Translate)

"We enable the body to regenerate the cartilage tissues that disappear over time. We have been successful in mice and rats. It will work 100 percent in humans too."

"Another program we have is cancer. We have two drugs for cancer. The first is for blood cancers, the other is for cancers in internal organs. The drugs we find in all different types of cancers in different organs reverse cancer. It destroys the growth of cancer. We started to experiment on people on this subject. Cancer disappeared in 9 of 11 patients who were sent home on the grounds that it was 1-2 weeks before their death. The difference of our medicine is that we don't eradicate that cancer mutation. We just prevent that mutation from turning into cancer. As long as the person with cancer takes that drug for life, the mutation never happens and the cancer never comes back"

"Another medicine is for baldness. When you apply it, your hair grows again. However, no matter what your age is, your hair grows with the color of your 20s as it also affects the cells responsible for giving the hair color."

"Another program of ours is to prevent Alzheimer's disease, or even restore memory. The medicine we developed in this regard does not only restore the memory, it does it better. The person's memory reaches the level in his 20s when he is at his healthiest. This drug, which passed the animal experimentation stage, restored the memory and physical activities of an 82-year-old woman. He started walking again and eating."

"We can also reverse blindness. In this experiment, the animals began to see again with the needle in the corner of the eye. Likewise, we can reverse those who are paralyzed. It worked on the mice and they started running again. ”


wow very impressive. The CEO of Samumed speaks of a cure. So that the hair will be like its early 20s. The company is easily worth 12 billion. Thus, we can expect strong results when the CEO uses such words.
Lol, I really want to believe this but... This is too much.

"We have cured poverty, we give you a drug that turns you instantly rich. Buy 1 pill, get 2 free!"

It feels like this dude would sell his wife.
 

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"We solved cancer, old age, baldness and Alzheimer's "

(Google Translate)

"We enable the body to regenerate the cartilage tissues that disappear over time. We have been successful in mice and rats. It will work 100 percent in humans too."

"Another program we have is cancer. We have two drugs for cancer. The first is for blood cancers, the other is for cancers in internal organs. The drugs we find in all different types of cancers in different organs reverse cancer. It destroys the growth of cancer. We started to experiment on people on this subject. Cancer disappeared in 9 of 11 patients who were sent home on the grounds that it was 1-2 weeks before their death. The difference of our medicine is that we don't eradicate that cancer mutation. We just prevent that mutation from turning into cancer. As long as the person with cancer takes that drug for life, the mutation never happens and the cancer never comes back"

"Another medicine is for baldness. When you apply it, your hair grows again. However, no matter what your age is, your hair grows with the color of your 20s as it also affects the cells responsible for giving the hair color."

"Another program of ours is to prevent Alzheimer's disease, or even restore memory. The medicine we developed in this regard does not only restore the memory, it does it better. The person's memory reaches the level in his 20s when he is at his healthiest. This drug, which passed the animal experimentation stage, restored the memory and physical activities of an 82-year-old woman. He started walking again and eating."

"We can also reverse blindness. In this experiment, the animals began to see again with the needle in the corner of the eye. Likewise, we can reverse those who are paralyzed. It worked on the mice and they started running again. ”


wow very impressive. The CEO of Samumed speaks of a cure. So that the hair will be like its early 20s. The company is easily worth 12 billion. Thus, we can expect strong results when the CEO uses such words.
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Thanks.
I think about it this way: however full of sh8t he might be, if he makes these claims and comes out with: "no significant improvement over placebo" next month, he loses his entire credibility including on the other larger markets (cancer, ...). He could have easily dropped the baldness mentioned and still pleasured himself.

Unless they rig the data...

Interesting OLD article:

 

coolio

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A former employee says Samumed is crooked and rigging data. IMO he might be overly paranoid but he didn't sound like he was intentionally lying.

The CEO is continually spinning grandoise claims about stuff in trials while they are raising large amounts of money from private investors.

This company smells funny.
 

Throwaway94

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I think about it this way: however full of sh8t he might be, if he makes these claims and comes out with: "no significant improvement over placebo" next month, he loses his entire credibility including on the other larger markets (cancer, ...). He could have easily dropped the baldness mentioned and still pleasured himself.

Unless they rig the data...

Interesting OLD article:

The thing is we've seen their phase 1 data and it's not impressive. Plenty of forum members have tried it as well with no ground breaking results.

Obviously there is something to the WNT pathway and I imagine it will help as part of a multifaceted regimen but that's all it'll ever be.
 

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"We solved cancer, old age, baldness and Alzheimer's "

(Google Translate)

"We enable the body to regenerate the cartilage tissues that disappear over time. We have been successful in mice and rats. It will work 100 percent in humans too."

"Another program we have is cancer. We have two drugs for cancer. The first is for blood cancers, the other is for cancers in internal organs. The drugs we find in all different types of cancers in different organs reverse cancer. It destroys the growth of cancer. We started to experiment on people on this subject. Cancer disappeared in 9 of 11 patients who were sent home on the grounds that it was 1-2 weeks before their death. The difference of our medicine is that we don't eradicate that cancer mutation. We just prevent that mutation from turning into cancer. As long as the person with cancer takes that drug for life, the mutation never happens and the cancer never comes back"

"Another medicine is for baldness. When you apply it, your hair grows again. However, no matter what your age is, your hair grows with the color of your 20s as it also affects the cells responsible for giving the hair color."

"Another program of ours is to prevent Alzheimer's disease, or even restore memory. The medicine we developed in this regard does not only restore the memory, it does it better. The person's memory reaches the level in his 20s when he is at his healthiest. This drug, which passed the animal experimentation stage, restored the memory and physical activities of an 82-year-old woman. He started walking again and eating."

"We can also reverse blindness. In this experiment, the animals began to see again with the needle in the corner of the eye. Likewise, we can reverse those who are paralyzed. It worked on the mice and they started running again. ”


wow very impressive. The CEO of Samumed speaks of a cure. So that the hair will be like its early 20s. The company is easily worth 12 billion. Thus, we can expect strong results when the CEO uses such words.
Bold claims, extremely bold claims. He never mentioned that the baldness cure was tested on humans. He just stated that your hair comes back and with the same colour of your 20's.

It seems like a crock of bs. We'll see though. It feels like he is trying to appeal to investors
 

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When you consider that former employee's claims of Samumed rigging their data, and also the CEO making super hyperbolic words, there' a non-zero chance this company is actually a scam.
Still though, there' a good chance the company is actually legit. I'm still hopeful.
 
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