Safest Antiandrogen For Your Dick - Bicalutamide

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CPA is beyond my financial limit in my hairloss regime, but i'll keep it in mind. Another thing, i see that you are knowledgeable on Bica, so my apologise for the constant questions. I would like to know if Bica will reverse my body hair. Dutasteride caused my body hair to drop 35% of what it was in the first 6 months of it (pubic hair took a big reduction), so i think it will drop some more in the future (i considere it a good thing anway). The only negative was Duta affected my facial hair same as my body hair (blonder and finer). Will Bica further reduce my body/facial hair more or the uprise in T and AR will cancel these side effects ?? Am i overestimating Bica ??

Bicalutamide will lead to a reduction in body hair, as long as your dosage is sufficient. But, it depends on the person; some people experience more lessening of body hair compared to others. It could reduce your facial hair to some extent, but it will more so slow down its growth. However, anti-androgens combined with laser hair removal will lead to impressive results; it will lead to results significantly greater compared to if you weren't using anti-androgens.

In regards to CPA, you will only need a dose of 6.25mg/day, but you may need to cut out dutasteride since the two react negatively.
 

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Bicalutamide will lead to a reduction in body hair, as long as your dosage is sufficient. But, it depends on the person; some people experience more lessening of body hair compared to others. It could reduce your facial hair to some extent, but it will more so slow down its growth. However, anti-androgens combined with laser hair removal will lead to impressive results; it will lead to results significantly greater compared to if you weren't using anti-androgens.

In regards to CPA, you will only need a dose of 6.25mg/day, but you may need to cut out dutasteride since the two react negatively.
I was planning to go 50mg of Bica everyday (the usual dose). Combinning it with Dutasteride could improve Bica's effectiveness. I don't mind increased Dutasteride in my blood, as long as i don't get severe side effects more than i already have (weaker erections, memory problems, declined sperm quality but im still clingy to the drug because it's finally something that helps my scalp). Do you think Bica 50mg is enough ??


Also, i read that CPA reduces T, but it isn't very consistent unless paired with some form of estrogen. I found these charts in Wiki, and as you can see, T levels kept rising slowly even tho CPA was blocking it. I don't know how to exactly explain it, but i think CPA alone loses potency slowly unless paired with some form of estradiol (this was on 10mg and 20 mg of CPA, so i suppose 6,25 mg was going to be more weaker in terms of T suppression).
 

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At some point you run out of choices and have to accept your fate, sorry.

Buzz and get a transplant with some smp and stop poisoning yourself popping multiple dutasteride pills like candy.
It’s not as easy as that. Trying to pay for and fit a FUE and SMP into your working/social life without anyone noticing is very tricky.
 

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It’s not as easy as that. Trying to pay for and fit a FUE and SMP into your working/social life without anyone noticing is very tricky.

Sure I understand that. But there is always a period where transplants look terrible, that's an expected part of the whole process.
 

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I was planning to go 50mg of Bica everyday (the usual dose). Combinning it with Dutasteride could improve Bica's effectiveness. I don't mind increased Dutasteride in my blood, as long as i don't get severe side effects more than i already have (weaker erections, memory problems, declined sperm quality but im still clingy to the drug because it's finally something that helps my scalp). Do you think Bica 50mg is enough ??


Also, i read that CPA reduces T, but it isn't very consistent unless paired with some form of estrogen. I found these charts in Wiki, and as you can see, T levels kept rising slowly even tho CPA was blocking it. I don't know how to exactly explain it, but i think CPA alone loses potency slowly unless paired with some form of estradiol (this was on 10mg and 20 mg of CPA, so i suppose 6,25 mg was going to be more weaker in terms of T suppression).
It's not just memory problem, It's a precursor of depression. Hop on bicalutamide and switch to finasteride. Stop taking dutasteride.
 

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It's not just memory problem, It's a precursor of depression. Hop on bicalutamide and switch to finasteride. Stop taking dutasteride.
I will hop on on Bica when i build a good plan on getting the prescription for it, but i can't switch from Dutasteride to Finasteride. The idea of being on a weaker 5AR inhibitor stresses me and keeps nagging at me. What if Dutasteride already upregulated my AR, and the fact that Finasteride is weaker, it is bound to fail and speeds up my hairloss. Even if i pair Bica and finasteride, im too paranoid.
 

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I was planning to go 50mg of Bica everyday (the usual dose). Combinning it with Dutasteride could improve Bica's effectiveness. I don't mind increased Dutasteride in my blood, as long as i don't get severe side effects more than i already have (weaker erections, memory problems, declined sperm quality but im still clingy to the drug because it's finally something that helps my scalp). Do you think Bica 50mg is enough ??


Also, i read that CPA reduces T, but it isn't very consistent unless paired with some form of estrogen. I found these charts in Wiki, and as you can see, T levels kept rising slowly even tho CPA was blocking it. I don't know how to exactly explain it, but i think CPA alone loses potency slowly unless paired with some form of estradiol (this was on 10mg and 20 mg of CPA, so i suppose 6,25 mg was going to be more weaker in terms of T suppression).

You don’t need much testosterone suppression from CPA, which is why 6.25mg/day would be fine. Although, 10mg/day would be somewhat preferable, but it’s harder to cut the pill into fifths. With that chart, we don’t know the methodology; they could have been slowly weaning off the medication, since you shouldn’t go cold turkey. Combining a low-dose of CPA with 50mg/day of bicalutamide should put your testosterone levels low enough for the bicalutamide to work more effectively, whilst preventing the issues if you ever decided to stop taking the medications. You should definitely ask for a blood test covering your hormones (testosterone and estrogen levels), as well as your liver, whilst you are on these medications.

50mg/day of bicalutamide is enough, but it would be better to combine it with CPA. However, it’s been mentioned that dutasteride and CPA have a negative interaction, so maybe finasteride would be a better option within the trio.
 

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You don’t need much testosterone suppression from CPA, which is why 6.25mg/day would be fine. Although, 10mg/day would be somewhat preferable, but it’s harder to cut the pill into fifths. With that chart, we don’t know the methodology; they could have been slowly weaning off the medication, since you shouldn’t go cold turkey. Combining a low-dose of CPA with 50mg/day of bicalutamide should put your testosterone levels low enough for the bicalutamide to work more effectively, whilst preventing the issues if you ever decided to stop taking the medications. You should definitely ask for a blood test covering your hormones (testosterone and estrogen levels), as well as your liver, whilst you are on these medications.

50mg/day of bicalutamide is enough, but it would be better to combine it with CPA. However, it’s been mentioned that dutasteride and CPA have a negative interaction, so maybe finasteride would be a better option within the trio.
Thank you for your input. I actually wonder, wouldn't 50mg CPA every 5 days acheive same effects as 10mg everyday ?? Assuming that CPA's half life is 24 hours (which isn't, it's alot more than that, ranging from 36 hours to 4 1/2 days). It would be awesome if this theory is indeed true.

And i do agree about not knowing what was the real method behind that study chart (even though it was stated 10mg CPA everyday during the treatment phase, but who knows..) i hope CPA alone is potent enough for T. Planning to start Bica with dutasteride as i mentionned before, but if i see myself lazing around on it, i'll hop on CPA for minimal T rebound upon quiting Bica. What side effects can i expect on Bica apart from Gyno ?? (I am overweight and I am positive that dutasteride spiked my estrogen and caused me female fat distribution in my abdomen and hips). Is estrogen in this regard healthy ??
 
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Thank you for your input. I actually wonder, wouldn't 50mg CPA every 5 days acheive same effects as 10mg everyday ?? Assuming that CPA's half life is 24 hours (which isn't, it's alot more than that, ranging from 36 hours to 4 1/2 days). It would be awesome if this theory is indeed true.

And i do agree about not knowing what was the real method behind that study chart (even though it was stated 10mg CPA everyday during the treatment phase, but who knows..) i hope CPA alone is potent enough for T. Planning to start Bica with dutasteride as i mentionned before, but if i see myself lazing around on it, i'll hop on CPA for minimal T rebound upon quiting Bica. What side effects can i expect on Bica apart from Gyno ?? (I am overweight and I am positive that dutasteride spiked my estrogen and caused me female fat distribution in my abdomen and hips). Is estrogen in this regard healthy ??

I wouldn’t bother with taking 50mg every five days due to its half-life. You won’t experience much side effects from bicalutamide; it’s mainly gynecomastia. However, the benefits outweigh the negatives. Having higher estradiol is useful, it will be more of a positive than negative in the long run.
 

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I wouldn’t bother with taking 50mg every five days due to its half-life. You won’t experience much side effects from bicalutamide; it’s mainly gynecomastia. However, the benefits outweigh the negatives. Having higher estradiol is useful, it will be more of a positive than negative in the long run.

lol at this delusional idiot
 

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I wouldn’t bother with taking 50mg every five days due to its half-life. You won’t experience much side effects from bicalutamide; it’s mainly gynecomastia. However, the benefits outweigh the negatives. Having higher estradiol is useful, it will be more of a positive than negative in the long run.
I worry that i screwed my T:E ratio with Duta, even tho i am gay so i don't worry about women's high standarts, and i prefer being chubby, but i hope at least my hair is protected. Another thing, Casodex is very expensive in my country (equivalent to $80 for a 30 pill pack, and i plan to take the brand name only, paranoid about fake generics). So i came up with the idea of taking Bica every third day until i secure myself financially. Im aware that its effectiveness could be halfed, but i hope it won't be totally useless against AR in the long term (its half life is 7~10 days, so i don't think its that much different).
 

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lol at this delusional idiot

Want to know what’s truly delusional? You thinking your irrelevant opinion matters! I’m not sure why you are on this website, you should be packing your bags for clown college.

I worry that i screwed my T:E ratio with Duta, even tho i am gay so i don't worry about women's high standarts, and i prefer being chubby, but i hope at least my hair is protected. Another thing, Casodex is very expensive in my country (equivalent to $80 for a 30 pill pack, and i plan to take the brand name only, paranoid about fake generics). So i came up with the idea of taking Bica every third day until i secure myself financially. Im aware that its effectiveness could be halfed, but i hope it won't be totally useless against AR in the long term (its half life is 7~10 days, so i don't think its that much different).

I don’t think straight men should care about women’s standards either; living to please others sounds exhausting. That’s quite expensive, it should cost less than half of that price for the brand name. If you don’t mind me asking, what country?
 

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There was a time when you, Ikarus and DHTcel were all in the same camp. Now it seems you guys hate each other. Wonder what happened.

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Want to know what’s truly delusional? You thinking your irrelevant opinion matters! I’m not sure why you are on this website, you should be packing your bags for clown college.



I don’t think straight men should care about women’s standards either; living to please others sounds exhausting. That’s quite expensive, it should cost less than half of that price for the brand name. If you don’t mind me asking, what country?
Absolutely, i didn't mean by my statement that straight men or anyone should care what others think of them. It's just that when it comes to attraction, i am happy with the outcomes lol. I am currently living in Morocco, a country in North Africa, just below Spain. Medications here, especially for cancer tumors or life threatening conditions, are very expensive. Avodart costs the equivalent of $55 and Casodex is $80, so i would be spending $135 every month, it's quite difficult for a college student :( . I contacted a hair specialist near where im living, and she was very reluctant at first because i am already using avodart which very few people in this country are actually using it for BPH, but she agreed to atleast discuss it with me in her office. I could opt for generic Bica which is way cheaper (same price as avodart or slightly less), i just need to confirm it's genuine Bica and all is well.
 

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Absolutely, i didn't mean by my statement that straight men or anyone should care what others think of them. It's just that when it comes to attraction, i am happy with the outcomes lol. I am currently living in Morocco, a country in North Africa, just below Spain. Medications here, especially for cancer tumors or life threatening conditions, are very expensive. Avodart costs the equivalent of $55 and Casodex is $80, so i would be spending $135 every month, it's quite difficult for a college student :( . I contacted a hair specialist near where im living, and she was very reluctant at first because i am already using avodart which very few people in this country are actually using it for BPH, but she agreed to atleast discuss it with me in her office. I could opt for generic Bica which is way cheaper (same price as avodart or slightly less), i just need to confirm it's genuine Bica and all is well.

I come off harsh sometimes, I apologise about that. Nevertheless, what if you ordered the medications internationally?
 

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have you experienced any sides while on Duta? if so, which?
Yes !! In my first 2~3 weeks of taking dutasteride (everyday), the first side effects was loss of my body hair. I knew then that my DHT is dying and was relieved. After 2 months, i kept losin body hair, and alot from my pubic area, then i had the first sleep paralysis in my life. I never EVER want to relive those 2 weeks. I had sleep paralysis spaced out in those weeks (it was end of April). Such horrible experience that i hope nobody gets with these drugs (i dont know if avodart was responsible, but i am positive cause nothing in my life has changed, and i always try to keep stess at bay, but who knows. I'm just glad it hasn't happened since). Ofcourse, my stubborn *** continued with avodart and thankfully i haven't gotten any experience like that after. The next side effect was thinning and loss of facial hair, not quite as my body hair but i do monitor myself for any changes and my beard growth definitely slowed down and the hairs became blonder. I would say the only concerning side effects that i got recently were short term memory loss, kinda watery semen and softer erections. If i experience any more side effects, or i start lagging behind in my studies or sexual life, then i will quit avodart. Hair is important, but the feeling of living is way more.
 

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I come off harsh sometimes, I apologise about that. Nevertheless, what if you ordered the medications internationally?
Where did you come off as harsh ?? Actually, i read this whole thread and some people were ridiculing you and calling you names, but i didn't see what you did wrong. You were only sharing your opinion on Bica and tried having adult like conversations with others who said Bica caused this and caused that. One thing that i may disagree with you on is estrogen isn't all healthy and does have its ups and downs. Sure estrogen helps hair growth and various other things, but as men we need to keep it at a healthy range and that range is far lower than female range. Its imbalance can cause acne, ED, low energy and depression and various other awful things. I do know for a fact that Bica will cause me estrogen dominance, but i'll give it a try in the near future hoping for non permanent side effects lol.
 

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Where did you come off as harsh ?? Actually, i read this whole thread and some people were ridiculing you and calling you names, but i didn't see what you did wrong. You were only sharing your opinion on Bica and tried having adult like conversations with others who said Bica caused this and caused that. One thing that i may disagree with you on is estrogen isn't all healthy and does have its ups and downs. Sure estrogen helps hair growth and various other things, but as men we need to keep it at a healthy range and that range is far lower than female range. Its imbalance can cause acne, ED, low energy and depression and various other awful things. I do know for a fact that Bica will cause me estrogen dominance, but i'll give it a try in the near future hoping for non permanent side effects lol.

Estradiol can't be used on it's own, unless it's used at a sufficient dose to lead to testosterone suppression. If it's used with an anti-androgen (e.g. spironolactone, cyproterone, flutamide, bicalutamide), then you won't have a hormonal imbalance. ADT along with estradiol leads to acne-free and smooth skin, and won't lead to those other effects mentioned once you have found a regimen suitable for your body.

On bicalutamide, you will somewhat have estradiol dominance, but that won't lead to hormonal imbalances. You will just be using ADT, without the typical effects of ADT.

Estradiol doesn't have many downs if used correctly, and has to be paired with an anti-androgen.
 
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