Hmm... so this is not completely new. Some people have been commercializing it together with other treatments
(here and
here,
gangnam style)
Here are two others studies where PDRN has been combined with
thulium laser. (I will get back to this in a minute)
1. For Hair growth:
Sung Bin Cho, Zhenlong Zheng, Jin-Soo Kang, and Heesu Kim. Med Lasers 2016;5:22-8. https://doi.org/10.25289/ML.2016.5.1.22
www.jkslms.or.kr
One week after the final treatment session, patients treated with the thulium laser and PDRN showed clinical improvements in mean hair counts (20.4 ± 15.7%; p=0.005) and mean hair thickness (53.1 ± 31.1%; p <0.001), compared to baseline values. Patients treated with mesotherapy and PDRN also showed clinical improvements in mean hair counts (9.7 ± 7.4%; p=0.007) and mean hair thickness (16.1 ± 25%; p>0.05). Further statistical analysis showed that combined treatment with the thulium laser and PDRN injections resulted in greater improvement in hair thickness (p=0.029) than combined application of mesotherapy and PDRN, but not in hair counts (p>0.05).
2. For Grey hair: Just an anecdotal evidence here as they rightly put it. (see picture for hair growth!)
Yoon Jin Choi, Suhyun Cho, Young Koo Kim, and Dae Suk Kim. Med Lasers 2017;6:37-40. https://doi.org/10.25289/ML.2017.6.1.37
www.jkslms.or.kr
So:
- If used effectively (there is a mention of derma rolling in one of the links) PDRN can be as good as Samumed and/or Follica
- Why I never heard of
thulium laser? Lasers have done wonders in hair removal, skin regeneration, it cured my fungus infected nails. The combination yielding
(20.4 ± 15.7%; p=0.005) is exactly as good as minoxidil as far as I remember. The thickness increase of average 50% is impressive. And the photos prove it, assuming they are honest.
Someone can post the pictures if they want. They are impressive. My upload connection is slow.
NOW TO LASER
I am going to open a new thread about the laser IF this has not been posted before. Let me know. This is too important to be buried.
2019 article
A large proportion of the population is at sometime affected by androgenic alopecia. Current therapies consisting of minoxidil or finasteride are often the first choices for treatment. These regimens are limited by their efficacy, side-effect profiles, ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Reviews a bunch of articles showing efficacy, but:
Preliminary evidence suggests that fractional laser therapies have a positive effect on hair regrowth; however, most of the literature is limited to case reports, and small prospective and retrospective series. Further studies, in the form of well-designed randomized controlled trials, are necessary to evaluate the efficacy
I think we need to look further into both. I maintain the opinion that for this you need more wounding (which is what the laser is doing) and a 0.25mm won't do it I think.