New Topical finasteride Study - Efficacy + Sides

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Hi,

I wanted to tell you about my progress using topical finas and DHT gel 2,5%, because it's quite good.

I started using topical finas once a day 0,5% and applied some DHT to my shoulders every day so that the DHT in my blood didn't get low levels.

My hair is getting stronger and I am maintaining my libido, so I started using topical finas twice a day instead of once (always topical at 0.5%) and within two weeks my libido had decreased a lot.

I got scared and stopped using finas at all, but kept using DHT daily, and after two days I was fully recover! I can't believe it!

Now I keep using finas once a day, and I put DHT on my shoulders day in day out, in order to not to introduce so much DHT into my body and affect my hair, and at the moment I have 100% libido and more hair every day.

I think I found the balance ;)

For how lang have you been doing this if I may ask?
 

wilfred

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Hi,

I wanted to tell you about my progress using topical finas and DHT gel 2,5%, because it's quite good.

I started using topical finas once a day 0,5% and applied some DHT to my shoulders every day so that the DHT in my blood didn't get low levels.

My hair is getting stronger and I am maintaining my libido, so I started using topical finas twice a day instead of once (always topical at 0.5%) and within two weeks my libido had decreased a lot.

I got scared and stopped using finas at all, but kept using DHT daily, and after two days I was fully recover! I can't believe it!

Now I keep using finas once a day, and I put DHT on my shoulders day in day out, in order to not to introduce so much DHT into my body and affect my hair, and at the moment I have 100% libido and more hair every day.

I think I found the balance ;)

What you could try is taking St. John's wort. From what I understand it makes you metabolize finasteride faster. I've taken it before and i think it would work. Anyway I would try that but I'm currently taking medication that conflicts with it. My plan before was to use topical finasteride and ingest sjw to clear it internally. Thoughts?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19073252/
 
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Not sure what you've tried, but not everyone is a responder to finasteride (regardless if its oral/topical).
Yeah I really have only regressed on topical Finasteride but it is as far as I can go AA wise. Sides on oral. Have topical Dutasteride but don’t think I can take that step.

Curious about CB, tried RU but couldn’t really tell.

I have noticed any T gel or HCG starts to destroy hair fast. Definitely helps sides though. Such horrible decision to make. Sweet spot is that balance fighting the hair topically and keeping DHT normal systemically. That Dereck guy seems to have a decede plan.
 

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Hi,

I wanted to tell you about my progress using topical finas and DHT gel 2,5%, because it's quite good.

I started using topical finas once a day 0,5% and applied some DHT to my shoulders every day so that the DHT in my blood didn't get low levels.

My hair is getting stronger and I am maintaining my libido, so I started using topical finas twice a day instead of once (always topical at 0.5%) and within two weeks my libido had decreased a lot.

I got scared and stopped using finas at all, but kept using DHT daily, and after two days I was fully recover! I can't believe it!

Now I keep using finas once a day, and I put DHT on my shoulders day in day out, in order to not to introduce so much DHT into my body and affect my hair, and at the moment I have 100% libido and more hair every day.

I think I found the balance ;)


dude are you aware that exogenous androgens have the risk of leaving you infertile and with testicular atrophy?? geez pal scary stuff
why don't you just use an aromatase inhibitor?? much more safer
 

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Guys I am confused about the topical finasteride dosage. Someone said 1% (the one Farmacia Parati sells) is completely overdosed. But what dies that 1% mean? It's not like 1mg every application?

If I want to try microdose with 0.1g each application every 3 days. What % finas should I ask?

(They told me it's €50 for 30g finas of 1%)

And dies anyone really understand if Liquid or Gel is better? A hair doctor told me that the Gel is made to break in the skin so it doesnt get systematic easily and now I read the opposite in this forum..
 

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Guys I am confused about the topical finasteride dosage. Someone said 1% (the one Farmacia Parati sells) is completely overdosed. But what dies that 1% mean? It's not like 1mg every application?

If I want to try microdose with 0.1g each application every 3 days. What % finas should I ask?

(They told me it's €50 for 30g finas of 1%)

And dies anyone really understand if Liquid or Gel is better? A hair doctor told me that the Gel is made to break in the skin so it doesnt get systematic easily and now I read the opposite in this forum..
No. If you want to 1mg finasteride 2xday you would dissolve 60mg of finasteride in 60ml of solution. That would give you 0.1% which is 1mg of finasteride per 1ml of application. For example I don’t want to use that much finasteride. I’m going to be applying 0.025% solution one time every 3 days to try and prevent sides.
*Also taking an aromatase inhibitor the day of and after application of finasteride to help prevent sides as well.
 
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No. If you want to 1mg finasteride 2xday you would dissolve 60mg of finasteride in 60ml of solution. That would give you 0.1% which is 1mg of finasteride per 1ml of application. For example I don’t want to use that much finasteride. I’m going to be applying 0.025% solution one time every 3 days to try and prevent sides.
*Also taking an aromatase inhibitor the day of and after application of finasteride to help prevent sides as well.

Which AI are you taking?
 

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I think you'd be better off doing nothing. The minimally positive effect that small dose of finasteride will have your hair will be outweighed by the negative effect of using an aromatase inhibitor.
Why do you think that?? I mean I can up the dose to 0.05%. What would be the negative affects of something like grape seed extract? I wouldn’t take it every day so I don’t drastically decrease my estrogen levels.
 

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Stop messing around with nonsense like grape seed extract. It's completely unproven and you're not going to find something millions others haven't in the last 50 years.

Use finasteride and be done with it, stop wasting your time.
 

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I dropped oral finasteride after ~20 years ..sick of brain fog etc. Tried low dose and couldn't get rid of sides completely. I bought the Italian topical but never used it...anyone want it? I'm now using morr-f for last 2 months with no sides. No real results to speak of though but oh well.
 

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I dropped oral finasteride after ~20 years ..sick of brain fog etc. Tried low dose and couldn't get rid of sides completely. I bought the Italian topical but never used it...anyone want it? I'm now using morr-f for last 2 months with no sides. No real results to speak of though but oh well.

That's because the italian topical is 2.5% dosage. When will people learn not to touch that sh*t or the H&W crap also made by the same italian chancers.

Good that Morr-F is working for you.
 

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Is there enough evidence that finasteride can work locally on scalp, decreasing DHT only there and being effective for hair loss or is there still high possibility that it only works by going systemic? That may be the reason why H&W went for that high concentration.
 

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Where can I get topical finasteride without minoxidil? just topical finasteride
 

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Is there enough evidence that finasteride can work locally on scalp, decreasing DHT only there and being effective for hair loss or is there still high possibility that it only works by going systemic? That may be the reason why H&W went for that high concentration.

Yes there is plenty of evidence, there are dozens of studies on topical finasteride which all say the same thing.

H&W are retards, and just to note they don't even make the formulation they just buy it off the italian pharmacy Farmacia Parati and brand it as their own. Also to note this formulation is impossible to apply unless you're bald.

Stick to Murray Pharmacy/MinoxidilMax/Morr-F or the many other US pharmacies who make proper topical finasteride.
 

Haironnu

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Yes there is plenty of evidence, there are dozens of studies on topical finasteride which all say the same thing.

H&W are retards, and just to note they don't even make the formulation they just buy it off the italian pharmacy Farmacia Parati and brand it as their own. Also to note this formulation is impossible to apply unless you're bald.

Stick to Murray Pharmacy/MinoxidilMax/Morr-F or the many other US pharmacies who make proper topical finasteride.

but there is no way it doesn't go systemic, at least a % of it
 

Lucky_Luciano

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Yes there is plenty of evidence, there are dozens of studies on topical finasteride which all say the same thing.

H&W are retards, and just to note they don't even make the formulation they just buy it off the italian pharmacy Farmacia Parati and brand it as their own. Also to note this formulation is impossible to apply unless you're bald.

Stick to Murray Pharmacy/MinoxidilMax/Morr-F or the many other US pharmacies who make proper topical finasteride.
But you can compound lower finasteride concentration from Farmacia Parati. And the topicals u recommend arent liposomal, they just have simple ethanol and PG vehicle, so more of it will go systemic, less stay in the scalp.
 

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Considering the difficulty of applying liposomal it's not even worth considering, unless you're shaven headed or bald.
 
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