Maintained Using Zix + Lllts (2+ Years)

Orwell

Member
My Regimen
Not all men have recession, and certainly not by age 30. If your hairline is NW2 then you have a mature hairline. That doesn't mean it can't get worse. If you have miniaturization behind it then it will get worse. OP has some thick hair. You probably don't have the same hair genes he has, but if you think you can maintain for years with zix and laser like he has then be my guest, it's your hair.
Well, alright - most men will develop a mature hairline. I'm in my 30s and see very few men my age or in their late twenties walking around with teenage hairlines. It doesn't mean they are going bald or even full blown NW2, IMO.

I'm not intending to try this because my hair loss is worse than OP's - I'm a diffuse thinner.
 

pegasus2

Senior Member
My Regimen
Well, alright - most men will develop a mature hairline. I'm in my 30s and see very few men my age or in their late twenties walking around with teenage hairlines. It doesn't mean they are going bald or even full blown NW2, IMO.

I'm not intending to try this because my hair loss is worse than OP's - I'm a diffuse thinner.

I think you may be confused about what NW2 is. Most people seem to think NW3 is NW2. A lot of men hit NW2 in their 20s, most in their 30s. NW3 is pretty severe recession.

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Pigeon

Senior Member
My Regimen
OP was quite clear about his hairloss:

Hair was progressively thinning and I was getting very concerned.

I have been battling hair loss for years, first noticed the loss in my early 20s, Before Zix, tried Caffine shampoos (Alpecin Shampoo), Keto etc without success.

Never tried finasteride or minoxidil, refuse to. Scared of sides.

My hair loss is mild, but I remember by this point people were commenting on it at work.

'Soon you will be shaving your hair' an ex manager remarked

Like me and others on zix said, if you're balding mildly you can maintain with zix, if you're balding more aggressive slowing down of hairloss with zix is realistic.

@pegasus2 Lol, we already know you're not the best at reading the norwood scale:

https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/threads/what-norwood-level-am-i-pics-included.128201/
 

Orwell

Member
My Regimen
I think you may be confused about what NW2 is. Most people seem to think NW3 is NW2. A lot of men hit NW2 in their 20s, most in their 30s. NW3 is pretty severe recession.

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Yeah, most men will hit NW2 at some stage, but then most men will go bald to some extent.

The reason NW2 is included on the chart you posted is because it's often considered hair loss. Norwood originally said that NW3 is the first stage of hair loss, but if someone is NW2 and miniaturising, they are balding.

In my view, there's a difference between the mature hairline and NW2. For example, I had a juvenile hairline until I was around 23. I then developed a mature hairline, with no further recession, until around 27, at which point my hairline (very slowly) began receding. I have a NW2 hairline now, 7 years later, at least according to B*sanga.

In reality, most people won't notice the difference between NW2 and mature hairline, it's only people on hair loss forums that debate these trivial issues.
 

jazz1

Experienced Member
I try to space out topicals and use Zix in the am + Min at night. That has worked for me.

Hey how do you mix the stuff? Does it actually work?
 

Oknow

Senior Member
My Regimen
Update

Had my hair checked out by my derm

I was starting to lose ground during lockdown (crown, hairline) when I had no access to LLLT and was just using zix.

Since regrown thinning hair on my crown and hairline. Zix alone might not be enough.
 

Oknow

Senior Member
My Regimen
He has some recession, that's technically balding, but normal. What I mean is I don't think he was ever going to go beyond a mature hairline considering his age, ethnicity, and density. If you're going to recede more than that you generally will have more thinning on top along with it.

It’s not just recession but parts of my hair are thinning
 

Oknow

Senior Member
My Regimen
Can you post your prior progression of male pattern baldness prior to zix? So people will stop accusing

Not sure why this is even a discussion

I’ve shared photos of clearly thinning areas of my scalp , temple points and hairline
 

sonictemples

Experienced Member
My Regimen
Not sure why this is even a discussion

I’ve shared photos of clearly thinning areas of my scalp , temple points and hairline
It's to measure the aggresivity of your hair loss to use it as a reference
 

worm

Senior Member
My Regimen
Update

Had my hair checked out by my derm

I was starting to lose ground during lockdown (crown, hairline) when I had no access to LLLT and was just using zix.

Since regrown thinning hair on my crown and hairline. Zix alone might not be enough.

Hi, as you've likely seen Ive recently started minoxidil. So far im on day 64, and I think Ive crested and am starting to see the signs of regrowth (starting with no shedding). Anyhow, I think evaluating every 15 days is the milestone I've picked for myself. Suggest you consider the possibility. Im pretty sure, I'll have definitive evidence one way or another by the end of September/early October - feel free to tune in.
 
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