I don't understand the comparison to Toyota, Budweiser. Can you explain?
Jake Kent reveals how to get a totally natural and undetectable hairline on any hair system.
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They took over the market by undercutting everyone cost wise .... They drew people in...which put a hurting on competitors and leaders in the industry. Once they forced out the big dogs of the business... they now became the leaders of the industry and prices went up substantially....They no longer needed to be inexpensive.
You gain control of market share and you dictate price........
Kent is that tool.....He's whoring himself out to lord hair and lavivid...He's being used...and compensated....to bring you to them......ultimately at our expence. He's a moron and helping noone other than himself....
As Robert De Niro said in casino, he's either in on it .. or too stupid to know it. Either way hes got to go....
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I watch most of these guys on YouTube, and quite a bit of the advice is either wrong, over-simplified, or only suitable to their own situations (or sometimes not even their own situations). The bad news is that people watch the videos, and take everything they are told as the final say in what to do.
I think that in many cases it does more harm than not. The message is "don't trust the hair industry, they are in the business of just ripping you off". And... "you got this, do it yourself". Well, not everyone can, or at least successfully. I see the results of this almost every day.
To be honest, I am not so worried about the "industry". If the large companies want to fight to take over the low-end, fine. There are still many folks who will pay for better quality and service.
I think that in many cases it does more harm than not. The message is "don't trust the hair industry, they are in the business of just ripping you off". And... "you got this, do it yourself". Well, not everyone can, or at least successfully. I see the results of this almost every day.
To be honest, I am not so worried about the "industry". If the large companies want to fight to take over the low-end, fine. There are still many folks who will pay for better quality and service.
Fanjeera
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I think this is something that's happening only now and the very recent years. When I started wearing in the beginning of 2016 all the few videos i saw on youtube seemed to be very professional. Done only by the hair system or glue companies themselves. Hairdirect's videos dominated then. There was maybe only one youtuber and he admitted of being a noob and didn't take the rights to teach others.
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Everyone has.... Retail is cost plus. The specific prices I mentioned were hair direct.
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Don't want to sound like a prick but that youtuber is in no position to give advices, you can tell its not his real hair from miles.
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There are a lot of strong words in here against the father of the modern industry.
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Can't do one without the other. I'm not sure what you would benefit by more people knowing your wearing a wig. You can tell as many people as you'd like right now. 1 of 3 things will happen. They will laugh and ridicule you ... either to your face or behind your back....they will say.. OK cool. because they really don't care either way....or they'll say good for you.. genuinely happy that you took steps to improve your looks and how you feel. No matter which response you receive, coupon code kickbacks do not help your situation one bit. Neither does any of the information Jake advertises.
The difference in making it mainstream is, you're reducing the anonymity people have, that want to remain quiet about it. People have worn wigs since the 18th century..... It is what it is acceptance wise.... Everyone knows a wig is someone else's...or fake hair stuck to your head. Nothing is going to change that. How it's made, how to maintain it, how realistic, how many people wear one.... none of that is going to change how people feel about it.
If you increase demand you will increase price there is no way around it.
What he claims and what he does is negative.... not positive for men that wear.
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Personally I don't really care about anonymity. If I look better with a hair system and more people wearing them means better technologies are developed and prices go down, let's get more people wearing them.
YouTubers for sure aren't the best source for sound advice, but for people who don't have access to salons or are only able to find places that sell you $1k/month subscriptions to monofilament units, having someone tell you that you can do it yourself can make the difference.
I wish hair systems were so normal that you could go to a regular barber and they'd offer you a partial system for your peeks like it's no big deal.
YouTubers for sure aren't the best source for sound advice, but for people who don't have access to salons or are only able to find places that sell you $1k/month subscriptions to monofilament units, having someone tell you that you can do it yourself can make the difference.
I wish hair systems were so normal that you could go to a regular barber and they'd offer you a partial system for your peeks like it's no big deal.
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I have to disagree. 1st you can absolutely go to a barber. If you've ever done your own maintenance....it's a haircut like any other....they'd provide... to cut and blend.
All youtubers are not a bad source of information. Curtis with my hair experience is invaluable resource. Even stick on hair who seems to do everything wrong and creates every problem in the world. He never attempts to come across as an expert. He doesn't tell you what to do... so essentially you are getting great information.. you're learning from watching him.... how to not do things.... and what doesn't work.
There are also many others that are simply documenting their experience and sharing their challenges and successes.
The differences it's very clear that Jake started his channel a couple weeks after getting a system from a salon. He immediately started searching for information... publishing it as though hes an expert. He went as far as to state hes the most prolific hair system person on YouTube. Meanwhile his system is one of the worst most people have seen. This is the problem.... it's not his experience... He searches for any information related to hair systems and provides it as though hes an expert on the topic. The majority of that information is inaccurate and false. He does so to garner viewers for an end result of receiving kickbacks from La vivid and lord hair.
Regarding anonymity or advertising to everyone that your wearing a wig. That's absolutely up to you. You have the right to go tell everybody you come in contact with. But for someone to try and make it a household topic is a different story. Plus to put it out there in its worst possible form is ridiculous. It is your decision and your decision alone whether or not you want to share.....
Not sure where you took economics, but your statement about technologies improving and lowering the price..... you are completely wrong.
How much was your last cell phone?
This is a niche luxury market, catering to those with disposable cash. Rolex does not lower their prices..... nor do cosmetologists and plastic surgeons...vanity is never budget priced....
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MGFORD has great advice on hair system maintenance , IMO...
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Oh that's cool, can you just go to a normal barber? I'm still quite new to this and am scared to take my new system to a standard barber to give me a haircut.
I have only been to one specialist and (they charge $100 for a haircut and, of course they would but) they told me blending it is quite difficult and a regular barber would ruin my unit.
I definitely agree with that. Curtis is a great resource. Curtis was both informative and hilarious. Stick on hair, much like Dave, gave me insight by observing what they were doing. You're probably right about Jake though - I didn't get much from his videos. Though he did give me the idea of using a colour depositing shampoo.
Yeah lol, I don't mean that I (or anyone wearing a system) should mention it to anyone - I certainly don't. If someone asked I wouldn't lie though. I meant that normalising it through tertiary resources such as YouTube, etc would make it easy for people become accepting of it.
If I were to buy a cell phone with the same capabilities of my first cell phone (Nokia 3200) today it would cost me under $20. The thing is, due to how many people use cell phones, phone manufacturers compete with each other, investing billions into R&D so those consumers would buy their cell phones.
If I were to spend the same dollar amount on a cell phone today as I did my first cell phone, it would be much more capable. I spend about $500 every 2-3 years on a mobile phone and at that price point, they get noticeably better every cycle.
Supply shortages (due to demand) will drive up prices, as we are currently seeing with the tech industry over COVID. This has resulted in a collective investment of over 100 billion dollars by the major manufacturers to increase fabrication facilities.
Look at cars as another example. What does $30k buy you today vs what it did 20 years ago?
Imagine if a company releases a magic material science wonder poly/kevlar composite system that lasts 4 times as long as existing poly units and still only costs $300 a unit. No doubt there would be a large portion of the market that upgrades to that technology. The larger the market of buyers, the more pressure there is for disruption through innovation.
Though perhaps I am a little idealistic in the way I see it.
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Nicely structured reply... Yes as long as you show the stylist or Barber where the system edge is, he will have to keep the hair longer to cover the seam.
I do disagree with the way you believe the free market works. Again this is a luxury item....not a commodity, this is not something that is going to be devalued... it's vanity for disposable income.. A cell phone on the other hand last cost me about $2000..... That is not cheaper than it's ever been before, because of advancements....
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I don't see what the big deal is about a barber not being able to blend your bio hair to go with the system. It's as good as real hair. Actually, it is.
As long as they are careful and allow for a tad extra overhang onto the bio hair it shouldn't be a problem at all.
As long as they are careful and allow for a tad extra overhang onto the bio hair it shouldn't be a problem at all.
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This is the crux point. Many of the Youtubers take you on their journey. They start as newbies, you watch what works and doesn't work for them, and you get a realistic view of the result you can expect if you do what they did. I find that really helpful and interesting, and a great use for YouTube.
The difference with Jake is that he was presenting himself as an expert almost from day 1, lecturing newbies on what they should do before he had worked it out properly himself, actively giving out bad information, and giving newbies the unfortunate and misleading impression that the results he (self-styled expert) is getting are the best you can hope for.
Frankly I am struggling to understand the thinking of the Chinese companies which sponsor Jake, Chris L, Michael Joseph and others. They seem to be setting a deliberately low standard for their products. When I watch these videos the subliminal message I get is - "why not stick on a cheap toupee; you'll have a ton of hair, and if it looks as fake as a £6 note, well who cares"?
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Huh?
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Before jake came along this industry was probably half of The size it is now. He has done untold wonders for the industry.
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You are talking complete, and utter nonsense!