Is the cure to this miserable disease anywhere close?

[Diffused_confidence]

Not to mention but what if they "cure" male pattern baldness in the standard male chemical environment and it grows out like this? Cured or Worsened?

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It might look a lot like growing a beard on one's head but said person has full coverage, so to speak and some guys are transplanting all sorts of hair from various nether regions, beard included. So without any rejuvenating factors like E2, guys would be growing in crappy brillo head kind of hair and presumably won't look like a young Brad Pitt. Check the protaglandin flow charts but wouldn't we more so expect crappy regrowth even if we get some little smidge. How come none of the incels math wizards on here understand Bayes Theorem? Why don't they incorporate beard and body hair growth into their analyses in terms of equilibrium states? Anagen is the key in whites/Semites/Asians and hair growth, not counts.

You can recover the front third with a hair transplant and the rest could be like that and keep it short. People don't pay much attention on the back.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

You can recover the front third with a hair transplant and the rest could be like that and keep it short. People don't pay much attention on the back.

Which is good since mine is still mullety in back and it takes a long time to push enough hair out to get past the Kenny Powers sort of look. Better than baldness? Probably yes and Randy Johnson had this type of hair as well where the hair style chosen makes it look worse long than short. I know that period well:

 

[Poppyburner]

As you seem desperate, here's my latest wacky plan:

I intend to gently and regularly tug on my miniaturised scalp hairs, long term, with a view to: incrementally elevating their malfunctioning follicles to a shallower depth, so that they might be micro-needled back to full health.

Although profoundly hit and miss, micro-needling definitely works and permanently, but putting the above method into action will prove quite a challenge.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

You can recover the front third with a hair transplant and the rest could be like that and keep it short. People don't pay much attention on the back.

You are right about this and Bing Crosby, the White Xmas guy only covered frontal hair loss and not at the former hair line itself but a bit back like most transplant surgeons purportedly do most of the time.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

As you seem desperate, here's my latest wacky plan:

I intend to gently and regularly tug on my miniaturised scalp hairs, long term, with a view to: incrementally elevating their malfunctioning follicles to a shallower depth, so that they might be micro-needled back to full health.

Although profoundly hit and miss, micro-needling definitely works and permanently, but putting the above method into action will prove quite a challenge.

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I have heard of hair tugging as a form of mechanical treatment but you need to have enough to tuck on, one would think. Such tugging could try to emulate the couple of plucking studies we have which seem to indicate higher ability of the body to regrow some hairs yanked from the streams of follicle cross-talk. I won't go that fair but I am yanking the malformed ones and compared to my before pics, there are not many. I have little to no gray except for I had a few that were either malformed or really long and weak.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

As you seem desperate, here's my latest wacky plan:

I intend to gently and regularly tug on my miniaturised scalp hairs, long term, with a view to: incrementally elevating their malfunctioning follicles to a shallower depth, so that they might be micro-needled back to full health.

Although profoundly hit and miss, micro-needling definitely works and permanently, but putting the above method into action will prove quite a challenge.

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It's like a stem-cell influencing factor has been found for recovery from male pattern baldness but nobody likes the stem cells that we have to create ourselves. We want them in topical form so we can just ladle all of the stem-cell-y goodness on top with no muss or fuss or needles or blood. Yeah better done by a specialist but nobody can afford that so maybe go once to a salon and then do microneedling oneself because that provides confidence but pretty much I ask everyone if they are microneedling and seemingly a lot of people purportedly seeking a cure for their own baldness opt not to do microneedling. Maybe because it's so effective that they will never take prostaglandins anymore and that's a waste of what seemingly appears to be a perfect flow chart. Why won't prostaglandins work?

And dammit. The estriol did grow boobs with nary a hair on any XY pates visible under light. All the MtF's tried to tell you but how would we know from feminization?

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

You can recover the front third with a hair transplant and the rest could be like that and keep it short. People don't pay much attention on the back.

I had diffuse thinning and many, if not most have this or something akin to this in the fringe areas. High fringe is better unless there is diffuse thinning and then you have to get creative about stopping the transplanted hair from thinning or scarring and the donor area as well. I have seen three guys even in the wild days of putting up hair transplant shingles, who had wonderful results but those are the ringers. Of course, grandpa isn't invited to show his bizarre scalp patterns 25 years hence with a bunch of circles that just stopped growing or that cobblestoned horribly. Microneedle first then with that and finasteride, transplants might be viable but I never liked knowing that my hair was unauthentic in terms of hair placement even if well done. I hate combing scar tissue in the fringe so I microneedle all of that too because curing scars might be closest of all to creating new follicles or the miracle cure that everyone wants but I am at 24 months now and still working on the temples so it takes time but they are all coming in in front and I will post pics with marking pen to show the extent of it. Microneedling might do wonders at the very least for MtF's and in an estrogen and oral min and retin-A context.

Silly boys says Janey. Stacking treatments or meds only works mathematically if such treatments all "work". Stacking 14 things that are said to be good for hair or that might "work" gets you a big mess and you are in the basement all of the time mixing up the medicine for your RU and CB and Fleuridil and Alfa-tradiol. None of those grow hair just like finasteride doesn't grow hair so probably finasteride plus duta doesn't grow hair either even with topical min poured on top but microneedling with min and retin-A and for the brave, also with Estrogel might work wonderfully.

 

[Poppyburner]

I have heard of hair tugging as a form of mechanical treatment but you need to have enough to tuck on, one would think. Such tugging could try to emulate the couple of plucking studies we have which seem to indicate higher ability of the body to regrow some hairs yanked from the streams of follicle cross-talk. I won't go that fair but I am yanking the malformed ones and compared to my before pics, there are not many. I have little to no gray except for I had a few that were either malformed or really long and weak.

I experimented with plucking/"waxing" quite extensively using a combination of spirit gum and very gooey Coolmorph thermoplastic (which has a great affinity to the former). They were very effective at uprooting even the tiniest of vellus hairs but didn't obviously achieve any regrowth alas.

My provisional idea for gaining a purchase on the minuscule miniaturised hairs, is by way of first repeatedly coating them individually with light strokes of superglue in order to create for myself an array of manageable bulbous handles, for again, embedment later in tug-able thermoplastic.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

I experimented with plucking/"waxing" quite extensively using a combination of spirit gum and very gooey Coolmorph thermoplastic (which has a great affinity to the former). They were very effective at uprooting even the tiniest of vellus hairs but didn't obviously achieve any regrowth alas.

My provisional idea for gaining a purchase on the minuscule miniaturised hairs, is by way of first repeatedly coating them individually with light strokes of superglue in order to create for myself an array of manageable bulbous handles, for again, embedment later in tug-able thermoplastic.

Like much of my writing, this is great satire and if you actually do this, then you know the hair obsession quite well and don't let me make it any worse via my doubts. You are a data point which I often remind folks even on the treatments I know are unlikely to work.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

But will that stuff work on my increasingly again, hairy legs and thighs? I don't mind yanking in terms of pain since all painful treatments work better since no pain, no gain and those sorts of cliched slogans which in my cases always seem to be true.

 

[Ollie]

It depends how you define cure.

if you look at how some forum members are responding to topical PRLR antagonists it gives pretty strong merit to the idea that the results obtained by Bayers HMI-115 PRLR antibody treatment will be mirrored in humans as it was in the monkey trial. Between a 50-220cm/2 increase is an absolute cure IMO.

 

[BTW]

I am still mad I can't use Benoxaprofen. Some boomers died of liver complications and for that I can't get my hair back

 

[Chromeo]

Many Boomers died to bring us this information.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

I am still mad I can't use Benoxaprofen. Some boomers died of liver complications and for that I can't get my hair back

Should people know what Benoxaprofen is?

 

[pegasus2]

Should people know what Benoxaprofen is?

It cured a guy. The scalp that was balding returned to the same density as the non-balding scalp https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1498062/?page=1

 

[pegasus2]

The cure is very close. This will be available as early as 2024.

 

[coolio]

Do we have to re-hash the semantics of "cure" every few weeks?

We want the same thing that any medical treatment tries to deliver. Fix (not just slow down or disguise) the problem, and accomplish it without causing other PITAs in daily life.

No, we aren't gonna get a genetic fix for baldness any time soon. There also won't be one for teeth whitening or keeping fingernails short. We wouldn't even be thinking about genetic fixes if the existing baldness treatments were worth a sh*t.

 

[froggy7]

Do we have to re-hash the semantics of "cure" every few weeks?

We want the same thing that any medical treatment tries to deliver. Fix (not just slow down or disguise) the problem, and accomplish it without causing other PITAs in daily life.

No, we aren't gonna get a genetic fix for baldness any time soon. There also won't be one for teeth whitening or keeping fingernails short. We wouldn't even be thinking about genetic fixes if the existing baldness treatments were worth a sh*t.

imo any time soon is 10 years

 

[pegasus2]

Do we have to re-hash the semantics of "cure" every few weeks?

We want the same thing that any medical treatment tries to deliver. Fix (not just slow down or disguise) the problem, and accomplish it without causing other PITAs in daily life.

No, we aren't gonna get a genetic fix for baldness any time soon. There also won't be one for teeth whitening or keeping fingernails short. We wouldn't even be thinking about genetic fixes if the existing baldness treatments were worth a sh*t.

If you're not happy with something that gives you a full head of hair after 26 injections then I don't know what to tell you. Keep waiting for that golden rainbow I guess

 

[disfiguredyoungman]

Just inject female hormones into your balls and wear a hijab, bro.