I think the key to success for some of us is NOFAP

[The Far Side]

They say that a healthy sex life is good for your hair and overall health but masturbation is the devils tool and you will go bald if you keep making a mess all over your bedroom.

Its all bollocks really.

I'd love to know how your scalp can tell the difference

 

[maher]

I'd love to know how your scalp can tell the difference

Our body knows the difference, because oxytocin and vasopressin are released in system only when interacting with another person.

 

[maher]

So, some of you believe you'll recover from a genetic disease that even powerful medication has trouble to treat by stopping masturbation?

Oh well...

So you think it is 100% genetic and no suplements or vitamins can help?


LOL. i can see now you manipulated your post...

Then how come you father was slick NW5 by age 23 and you are not? And what about mega doses of vit A that you claimed thickened and darken your hair??

 

[maher]

Fred, you really have to cockblock every thread..

 

[maher]

I'll just quote Quantum Cat's contribution in this thread.

/thread.

And what exactly is a genetic condition that causes hair loss?

 

[swingline747]

This makes no sense to me mostly since sex in general is nothing but beneficial to your hair.

http://www.hairboutique.com/tips/tip1230.htm

SO HOW could sex be so good releasing anti toxins, blood circulation, relaxation (low stress), oils to your hair ETC ETC YET masturbation is hair cyanide??!!

This makes ZERO sense and has no backing. Not to mention whacking it would reduce the testosterone in your body plausibly reducing the DHT.....

 

[I.D WALKER]

Off topic a bit even so I can't help but playfully contemplate what statistics would come from the question, "How many blind men treat /consider(ed) treating their hair loss'?

I'll just quote Quantum Cat's contribution in this thread.



/thread.

 

[maher]

This makes no sense to me mostly since sex in general is nothing but beneficial to your hair.


SO HOW could sex be so good releasing anti toxins, blood circulation, relaxation (low stress), oils to your hair ETC ETC YET masturbation is hair cyanide??!!

This makes ZERO sense and has no backing. Not to mention whacking it would reduce the testosterone in your body plausibly reducing the DHT.....

Masturbation elevates DHT:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...00593-0017.pdf ( table II)

abstract :
Our results strongly support the hypothesis that
dihydrotestosterone is the active hormone for male
sexual function as reflected in the frequency of orgasms.
An increase of dihydrotestosterone by about 2 SD
(1-36 nmol/l) was associated with an increase of the
weekly number of orgasms by at least one and
conceivably more depending on the extent of biologically
generated variation and consequent misclassifica-
tion. Additionally, within the age range studied, a
difference of three years corresponded to an increase
of the weekly number of orgasms by about two;
this increase is likely to reflect socially conditioned
enhancement of opportunities with increasing age
(possibly including marital status which was not ascer-
tained in this study).
Only orgasms were evaluated in this investigation,
and no attempt was made to ascertain other aspects of
male sexual behaviour.' Previous studies, however,
have found that self reported frequency of orgasms in
men is a highly reliable method for the evaluation of the
effects of androgens on sexual activity that tends to
remain stable over time.

 

[dreamermerlin]

This makes no sense to me mostly since sex in general is nothing but beneficial to your hair.

http://www.hairboutique.com/tips/tip1230.htm

....

Oh, come on... That's a reliable source to you for the assertion that "Sex is beneficial for your hair"??
Is there any study proving this? That more sex means better hair??
Ok, well, sex is smth everyone enjoys and so it's easy to "jump " imemdiately in something saying "sex is good for A, for B, for C".
But:
-improving circulation-definitely it does, but also many other activities such as physical exercise, etc improves also circulation
-releseas stress...come on, male pattern baldness doesn't have anything with stress. Hairloss from stress is temporary.
Oils to your hair? What oils exactly? And for what? There are only sebaceous glands on the scalp which make oil, and from what it's believed, that oil is not only of no benefit for male pattern baldness, but there are theories stating that sebum is implied in hairloss.
So it's only an old wive's tale.
There are theories and theories. There can be a strong link between having/not having much sex/masturbation and hairloss. This can't be denied, since male pattern baldness is directly connected to male hormones.
Some say that sex is the key to prolong life, other say on the contrary, that too much sex depletes the body energy.
Despite of how much pleasurable is the sexual activity, the truth is that nature created sex mostly for reproduction of the species, not for pleasure by itself. It is also said, if we are on this level of "tales" that, when you have much sex, the body concludes that you have "spread your seeds" and you created descendants, you fulfiiled your main objective of life, so you can age and die, so the aging process will accelerate. What about this?? Who knows, maybe men who have much sex die earlier?! ))

Sex/masturbation means consumption of a tremednously amount of energy only for short-time pleasure.
I think the secret for a lomng and healthy life is doing everything with measure, and not in excess.
Like when drinking small amount of wine can be beneficial to you, but drinking in excess is bad, who knows, maybe it also applies for sex(or masturbation). Exessive sex certainly consumes your energy, we know the cases of athletes, etc, who abstain from sex a period before their competitions.

So i think that excessive sexual activity and , even worse, excessive masturbation does no good to the body, and implicitly to the hair.

 

[drgs]

So, some of you believe you'll recover from a genetic disease that even powerful medication has trouble to treat by stopping masturbation?

I think this "no fap" trend on reddit, because it is a trend that will die off like every other trend, is pushed by lazy people who don't how to make something valuable of their life.

They don't know how to get girls for example, so it must be because they wank too much! When I see such nonsense as "since I've stopped masturbating, women can smell the winner in me!" Yes, I've seen that written on one of those no-fap forums.

If you suck with women, unless you genuinely improve your appearance, your personality and your game, it won't change by keeping your bird in its cage.

Same with male pattern baldness, if you don't use minoxidil or other FDA approved medications, you will most certainly go bald.

If you have never tried it yourself, there is absolutely nothing new, no valuable information which you add to this discussion. Improving appearance, game, personality whatever, we all know that

I challenge you to stop fapping/sex for 10 days. Will you be convinced or not I can't care less -- do it for you own personal curiosity

I'm telling you as a finasteride and minoxidil user

 

[maher]

There's no benefit to not masturbating. I'm sick of those hidden scapegoats supposed to explain why our lives relatively suck.

It's always the same mechanism: you take a thing the majority of people usually do all the time without questioning it, you say it's bad and if you stop you'll get some unexpected reward.

People usually eat dairy products, it's bad, if you stop you'll no longer feel tired, bloated or whatever. People usually take hot showers, it's bad, if you take cold showers, you'll get better blood circulation, you'll feel more alert or whatever. People (men) usually masturbate to p**rn, it's bad, if you stop you'll feel more alert and girls will be attracted to you because non-fapping pheromones will be released by your body or whatever. What's next?

Are there any scientific evidence supporting all these claims? Of course not. I guess this is the dark side of the internet.

If you want to find a solution to your problem, whatever they are, confront the problem head-on, do not try to find some esoteric new-age explanation to why you're a loser.

Overmastrubation > sexual exhaustion (adrenal fatigue) > pheromone secretion disorder

not a myth

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9494686


And why are nofap guys losers? i have normal sex life, i just don't wank. Our brain just wasn't evolutionary engineered to process all this internet p**rn. Our coach always said: no jerk 5 days before game(that was 10 years ago) and he was right.

 

[drgs]

There's no benefit to not masturbating. I'm sick of those hidden scapegoats supposed to explain why our lives relatively suck.

It's always the same mechanism: you take a thing the majority of people usually do all the time without questioning it, you say it's bad and if you stop you'll get some unexpected reward.

People usually eat dairy products, it's bad, if you stop you'll no longer feel tired, bloated or whatever. People usually take hot showers, it's bad, if you take cold showers, you'll get better blood circulation, you'll feel more alert or whatever. People (men) usually masturbate to p**rn, it's bad, if you stop you'll feel more alert and girls will be attracted to you because non-fapping pheromones will be released by your body or whatever. What's next?

Are there any scientific evidence supporting all these claims? Of course not. I guess this is the dark side of the internet.

If you want to find a solution to your problem, whatever they are, confront the problem head-on, do not try to find some esoteric new-age explanation to why you're a loser.

I have tried nofap, I know the benefits for myself. What are you trying to convince me in?

If there are no evidence means the theory is in a "superstate" -- it can be true or false.

But you automatically decide that it is false without evidence.
From a scientific point of you you are equally an idiot like the ones who assume its true without evidence. Do you understand?

 

[I.D WALKER]

Thanx Dream. I am composing my obituary this very moment.c: We generally all share the propensity to want more sex .It's a good indicator we've fallen prey to our own excesses (sexcess) when our home and work lives are imperiled. Sex is a free pass to the door of the candy factory Balance is the key.:beer:

 

[drgs]

The principle is similar to food.

Humans have a strong taste for sugar and seek out sweet-tasting energy-dense foods, because in our natural habitat in which we have evolved sugar is sparse (hard to get, other than fruits for a limited period of the year).
Under modern living conditions of the first world countries sweets are virtually unlimited.
If we didn't know better we all would eat junk food exclusively, but most of us understand it's bad for you and so we moderate ourselves.

Sex is a sparse good, and obviously even more important for survival. There is nothing bad in sex per se, it is something in which we indulge in periods when we find a mate. Again, if I could I would do the next best thing; watch p**rn and strike my penis all day (in my teens I did just that)...

The human species are not ready to live in absolute abundance of food and pleasure, but generation by generation we get filtered out by social selection towards maybe a more indifferent kind of people, with blunted instincts

To sum up, bald people are the ones who got tempted by the dark paths of the apes

 

[I.D WALKER]

..,yet the apes still got to keep their head hair.:hairy:

 

[FormerFro]

Guys, I am back! I've been on 1mg daily of generic finasteride, 1ml - 2ml rogaine 5% minoxidil daily, and Nizoral 2% shampoo once to twice a week since June 1, 2013, so approximately 9 months. The results have been pretty good. I was a thinning NW3V, with heavily receded temples and the crown was showing skin! My crown now is no longer exposed and the rest of my hair is coming in slowly but steadily. No sides, been pretty happy.

However, this is not the point of this thread. I created this to test out my belief that my obsession pornography and my raging hormones led me to masturbate daily, and was the inception of my struggle with hair loss. I am back here to say my belief has never been stronger and I pled with those who are skeptical of this to please hear me out. I am certain that masturbation causes hair loss in SOME not ALL hair loss sufferers. I could not sustain abstinence for as long as I wished because this is an addiction that I am slowly trying to relieve myself of. No pun intended. The longest I have gone without any sexual stimulation has been 6 weeks prior to starting the big 3, but have greatly reduced the frequency of fapping since. Every time I go around 10 days without fapping, my shedding reduces drastically to nearly nothing. If I fap, the next day I will shed hundreds of hairs, without exaggeration. The 'behaviour' of my hair also improves any time I stop fapping. What I mean is that it is easier to manage, comb and style. It seems more hydrated and healthy. Fapping also causes noticable inflammation on my temples. They become very hot and red for DAYS after orgasm. Again, abstinence has the opposite effect.

I'm not here to convince anyone of anything, I just want to let all those who have suffered as deeply as I have, who feel like they're losing their public image, their confidence, or even their identity that this might be this cause and there is something you can do about it if you fight it. Experiment and try for yourself. It is not easy because you need to avoid getting horny like a bad habit, but the results after a few weeks might astound you.

Let me know if anyone has questions or I can support in anyway. Good luck all.

 

[PlzSaveMyHair]

i have to agree no fap, definately causes a more relaxed and calm mind, fapping alot makes my head cloudy and dull,

but whats the science behind it reducing hairloss, does it reduce DHT levels? whats the science, anything studies that could even hint at such a theory

 

[abcdefg]

There is no science behind it because he is making up his own idea of how male pattern baldness could occur. A common fallacy is people try to explain the unknown with their own whacky theories with nothing to support it by hearsay or testimonial

 

[PlzSaveMyHair]

There is no science behind it because he is making up his own idea of how male pattern baldness could occur. A common fallacy is people try to explain the unknown with their own whacky theories with nothing to support it by hearsay or testimonial

well if it fapping ALOT effects DHT levels then it might be a start of a theory, is there any evidence of such

 

[dreamermerlin]

I remember back in 2009, someone made up a theory explaining how male pattern baldness was caused by plastic bottles, and if we all stop drinking bottled water, we would grow our hair back. You know, because everyone drinks bottled water, it's bad, so if you stop = magic reward.

Yes, plastic bottles kept at too high or too low temperature develop a chemical compound, called bisfenol, which is bad for health. No one knows if it affects hair, but also we can't totally exclude that.