Many thanks hell for the information but we also have to mention these treatments we are talking about are like ru58841 many years ago and this was talked about by Angela Christiano as the wonder hairloss cure and some called it the mother of all anti androgens and will regrow everyones hair that have male pattern baldness. So we have had psi peptide as a miracle that can grow hair in 16 weeks which now we have jak inhibitors for non male pattern baldness but might regrow hair in a topiclal cream but the price of the drug is too expensive for us to get hold of. So to be honest although its exciting to see all these so called scientists with there hair trials going on seemingly for ever we still are no more enlightened to a cure in male pattern baldness. Now hell looking at your many products you are using was you shiny bald and if so have you regrown your hair on these areas? and if so have you pics to prove that because its important that we do not waste money. Now the most exciting thing i have seen is a totally bald man regrow all his hair and pics to prove it and that is the jak inhibitor now thar was really impressive and if it is made into a topical cream and works for male pattern baldness then with just one product we have hit gold. But it needs to be a low price for the man in the street because as i have come to experience over many years i have been conned as i see it even by genuine clinics due to the fact they seem to think like dentists there is loads of money to be made out of us poor people that are suffering this disease. - - - Updated - - - I have read that even shiny bald advanced male pattern baldness still like a baby when born have hair cells that just need to be turned back on to produce hair as in the jak inhibitor. But what if we had a one topical lotion or cream that could do this then there might be many clinics that would go out of bussiness no need for costly hair transplants or drugs that do not work? ask the question like there would be many that do not want one company finding the cure as there maybe even a natural out there that may cure male pattern baldness we do not know and it maybe really cheap. This maybe like if there is a real replacement for oil what will happen to all the oil producing countries they would go bankrupt and lead to major problems, i know this is slightly different but i have heard that they have found major cures for many ailments to save lives many years ago but govs have put the boot in and do not want this. It may or maynot be true whats been said but we have to think what is there to gain in suppressing us the public? for one i do not trust the money grabbing drug companies who let humans die due to not being able to afford the drugs which in 2015 is a major crime on humanity. We have to think are we being lied to by the drug companies which many have found by mistake on some drugs that have helped in hairloss we do know that the side effects of some have caused problems at a later date. Now many here may think whats this got to do with hells topic but i know hells a good man and like all of us we are desperate for something that can really make us happy again and for me that would be to regrow all my hair back.