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incline and decline is a waste of time you cant isolate your muscle like that.. thats a big myth
rambotera said:incline and decline is a waste of time you cant isolate your muscle like that.. thats a big myth
rambotera said:colledgechemistrystudent you are 100% right you see every idiot throws there two cents in when it comes to weight training i think its a macho thing ..Its stupid though because its very confusing for poeple like us when these suposside "pros" talking about back down sets and all that crap..man where not ronnie colemans to worry about these things.... this way of training the same bodypart 3 times a week is way too much ..why not just train each bodypart hard once a week with real effort...trust me colledge chemistry student if you have 40 doallrs too spare get the book BEYOND BRAUN and dont worry what some people on the net say because you will get 1 million diferent opinions from people who dont know $#iT ...
rambotera said:pain near your collar bone .. how high are you bench pressing?? above your nipples? or bellow?? shoulder height?
collegechemistrystudent said:rambotera said:pain near your collar bone .. how high are you bench pressing?? above your nipples? or bellow?? shoulder height?
I might have it above my nipples. I don't remember. I know it should be above my shoulders, but that might not be where I have it.
And for my wrists, I have to put all the weight on my thumb webbing to keep them straight. That is not comfortable. If I palm the bar with bent wrists, my wrists get hurt.
hair today gone tomorrow said:collegechemistrystudent said:rambotera said:pain near your collar bone .. how high are you bench pressing?? above your nipples? or bellow?? shoulder height?
I might have it above my nipples. I don't remember. I know it should be above my shoulders, but that might not be where I have it.
And for my wrists, I have to put all the weight on my thumb webbing to keep them straight. That is not comfortable. If I palm the bar with bent wrists, my wrists get hurt.
when flat benching, bring the par to your nipple or just below your nipples...wrap your thumb around the bar and keep the bar inline (co-linear) with your forearms.
Keep your elbows tucked ( no more than 45-60 deg from your torse) keep them all the way out puts stress on your RC's.
collegechemistrystudent said:hair today gone tomorrow said:collegechemistrystudent said:rambotera said:pain near your collar bone .. how high are you bench pressing?? above your nipples? or bellow?? shoulder height?
I might have it above my nipples. I don't remember. I know it should be above my shoulders, but that might not be where I have it.
And for my wrists, I have to put all the weight on my thumb webbing to keep them straight. That is not comfortable. If I palm the bar with bent wrists, my wrists get hurt.
when flat benching, bring the par to your nipple or just below your nipples...wrap your thumb around the bar and keep the bar inline (co-linear) with your forearms.
Keep your elbows tucked ( no more than 45-60 deg from your torse) keep them all the way out puts stress on your RC's.
Hairy told me the same thing. But if I tuck my elbows, that makes the exercise a compound should/tricept lift, not a compound chest/tricept lift.
collegechemistrystudent said:HTGT, what do you think of butterflies, and dumble flies?
They isolate the chest, instead of being compound, but do they stress any thing, like RC? I'm still a bit upset that my favorite compound lift for chest just got turned into a delt/tri lift.
OK, if bench press is bad, does that mean push ups are too? They are practically the same thing, just lighter, right? And the shoulder blades are not pressed against anything.
rambotera said:Whats wrong hairtodaygonetomorrow are you cut because you know your getting owned and you dont know $#iT ??? ..You think your so smart dont you ..I wasnt saying forget about incline all together ..I was saying forget it for now.. This guys obviously a novice and he needs to only do flatbench for now untill he gains some serious size, then after he has gained some good size in hes chest he should add Incline bench press and Pec deck flys...And there you go again you absolute fuckwitt telling him bench flies are safe!! if he wear to use serious weight he could tear a rotator cuff from benchflies you dumb f***..Man you are getting owned none stop by me..You truely dont know anything about safe training you are a fool .And as for you colledge student how can you take advice from someone whos a clamined bodybuilder and only weighs 160 pounds ?? id love to see your pic hairgonetoday !!you sound like a pencil neck to me
rambotera said:incline and decline is a waste of time you cant isolate your muscle like that.. thats a big myth