Hair is not Life but it's Pretty Damn Close; HRT and Pictorial Posts Prove it.

How far are you willing to go to restore a full head of hair?

  • Full-blown Feminization

    Votes: 35 14.4%
  • Slight Gyno

    Votes: 41 16.9%
  • Slight Breast Growth

    Votes: 25 10.3%
  • Only "Male" Treatments

    Votes: 86 35.4%
  • Dude, I won't even touch finasteride

    Votes: 56 23.0%

  • Total voters
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cetm-419

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At your age, you seem to be doing everything you can and honestly, we don't really know whether microneedling works preventatively or whether it works better on diffuse thinning or bald scalp. I think you are in essence doing everything perfectly. If you want to DM me some pics, I will look at them and folks on here are very nice about that and helping others. I wonder how my life might have been different had we had the Big 3. But welcome and I think you are one of the next generation of males who will look at baldness as a medical issue and not one without any treatments which left many of us hopeless back in the 80's. You will be someone with excellent ability to help others as we all try to "pass it on" and help others younger than you.

Keto should help with itching and inflammation and you might want to alternate it with Selsun Blue which is somewhat similar but more tingly and has a nice medicated feeling when you use it on your hair.

Janey
thank you so much for that response! and yes, i will DM you..

¿when do you think I can start seeing the OM results? I've heard that diffuse thinners can take a little longer, idk...

I hope that with this "aggressive" regiment, and the early intervention, I can keep my hair for many years to come... if it gets any worse (or I don't see the results I'm looking for) do you think cycling Estrogel or estriol maybe 3 months the first time, and then one month on and one month off for a total of 12 months of treatment would have any considerable impact on my hair? and in your experience what would the adverse effects be?

yeah, I have read about selsun blue, I think that is the best option (with keto)...
 

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thank you so much for that response! and yes, i will DM you..

¿when do you think I can start seeing the OM results? I've heard that diffuse thinners can take a little longer, idk...

I hope that with this "aggressive" regiment, and the early intervention, I can keep my hair for many years to come... if it gets any worse (or I don't see the results I'm looking for) do you think cycling Estrogel or estriol maybe 3 months the first time, and then one month on and one month off for a total of 12 months of treatment would have any considerable impact on my hair? and in your experience what would the adverse effects be?

yeah, I have read about selsun blue, I think that is the best option (with keto)...
For diffuse thinners, I think you can see results from oral minoxidil right away. Now if you lack hair loss, you will probably only notice something akin to more vigorous growth or hopefully an improvement in texture. I am just now at the nine to ten month point where I am seeing small, whitish hairs in my temples appearing so I hope to keep seeing that. I am so exhausted from a surgery that I had recently that I haven't post pics in a while but length continues nicely and texture seems great.
 

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thank you so much for that response! and yes, i will DM you..

¿when do you think I can start seeing the OM results?

I hope that with this "aggressive" regiment, and the early intervention, I can keep my hair for many years to come... if it gets any worse (or I don't see the results I'm looking for) do you think cycling Estrogel or estriol maybe 3 months the first time, and then one month on and one month off for a total of 12 months of treatment would have any considerable impact on my hair? and in your experience what would the adverse effects be?

yeah, I have read about selsun blue, I think that is the best option (with keto)...
I've heard that in diffuse thinners, it might take longer to see results. because having a "full" head of hair makes it harder to notice changes, thus it requieres a bigger improvement... but idk. in 3 months I have only seen marked hypertrichosis. I can't see any night and day, clear difference hairwise.

do you think that marked hypertrichosis is a sign it will work nicely on the hair?

also, since I started taking it, the little shedding I had pre-OM has stopped completely. Now i don't shed any hairs. I hope this is a good sign that things are going in the right direction... what do you think?

I've also heard that the best responders to minoxidil are the ones with more hair to start with... I have really high hopes on this to work...
 

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I will keep fighting as I love hair, SIMPLE.
 

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New Pics. The goal was to show how long it is when it is wet but that didn't really come through. People with some kink or wave to their hair will notice that it is longer when wet. Any places that look thinning are pretty much reflections off of graphs that are less productive than the hair around them which is why It is thicker than it photographs. I continue to microneedle to get these grafts to blend in better. If you look very closely at the hairline in the middle and expanding outward, there is a sort of undercoat that is coming in which might make it more apparent how low the hairline is getting.

One thing that has surprised me is how low the hairline is coming in. Most of the pure regrowth is at the hairline between the temples and it is quite visible in the mirror. Temples are coming along more slowly but I see both small dark hairs and lots of little ones that almost look like beard growth. For MtF's you can see that my Adam's Apple is still swollen from my surgery. I am at about the 2.5 week point. I will try to post some dry pics but I am exhausted just sitting in my bed so time for some Batman: The Animated Series and maybe a nap.

Goddess bless,
Janey
 

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Well, I got my second wind. I have lost 12 pounds in less than three weeks.

Here are some dry pics. It's been about a month since the previous ones. I used two separate levels of lighting and in the darker lighting without the reflections, my hair looks even better. The reality is somewhat in between. I feel like I actually look much younger without the wig, which is curious to me. Any guesses as to the age of my "male binary"?

Goddess Bless,
Janey

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JaneyElizabeth

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And so, like that ancient way among men, I am trying to fix things with my ex-wife because "none of this" is her fault. And I think that we can but regardless, I want to have more children at an age where usually people lack the energy but I have an enormous amount of energy. So I am hoping that having more children with her with cure me.
Janey
 

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So as I near victory on my hair, do any of you know how to get a baker's dozen of sperm a-goin-again, say, I would do anything<winks>
 

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I just saw an ad for this and came here to see if anyone had discussed it! Safe to assume it's hogwash?
This line would concern me because even people on HRT don't always see regrowth. The other thing is that FPB is different from male pattern baldness in terms of how the loss is distributed and how it grows back:

"According to Skjoth, Ricki's results are not unusual (Harlinikken reports over 100,000 referrals from satisfied clients). He attributes the protocol's success to both the individualized formula (each one is made by hand) and strict adherence to the instructions. "Every single person we put on the regimen will see growth if they are compliant," he says.

To book a consultation at a Harklinikken location or for an online consultation, visit harklinikken.com."

Compliant with what is my question when they state that everyone will regrow hair?

If it's the real deal, then we will know soon but eh, I doubt it does more than the treatments we already know help most people at least some.
 

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Hey everybody. I hope folks are enjoying mask-free lives. My hair, length and coverage seems to just keep getting nicer and nicer but I still look better in my wig. I still am around to answer questions and to post pics but I am feeling survivor's guilt hair-wise and I don't want to hurt anyone else who might be struggling. I really thought high-dose HRT would be more foolproof. Now I wonder how important the derma-rolling for two years plus the 9 months of oral minoxidil have been.

I am back on finasteride and dutasteride both even though it is probably mostly duplicative.
 

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JaneyElizabeth

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Hair Plucking Studies

Anyone with working knowledge of any of the hair plucking studies, I would be interested in possible hair plucking strategies to promote regrowth. Along, if not alone, with microneedling, plucking is one of those mysterious beneficial therapies if done correctly.

One thing that I have noticed is that as my hair has improved, most of the hairs that don't lie flat, are either gray or mutant blond and many of them are deformed. They tend to come out easily so when I see one that I can actually grab without grabbing five others at the same, I pluck them with tweezers or my fingers. In the olden days, I would have thought "coverage" is coverage even for peach fuzz and mutant hairs but again, now I am doing it in an almost perfect environment where they actually do degrade from over all experience if not plucked. My understanding is that plucking one or two, here and there is fine but the studies apparently note a rectangular area and within that area, plucking promotes growth, perhaps via cross-talk. If you pluck aggressively and diffusely, then yeah, you can cause real damage, at least temporarily.
 

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One thing that I would like to say to the people who post and comment on my thread is thank you. I did/do feel like I am uniquely positioned to understand the chemistry of all of this, from both the "male" and "female" chemicals states in which I have existed as an adult and I hope to provide insight to some and I still think what I am doing is largely replicable for people who don't have reasons for it not to be.

But beyond that, for non-binary folks, this stuff is often vastly different from people hard-wired male and females. So, no, well, yes some but Janey is developing as a personality and I think that I have created her and the ways that she differs from Will, which person and name I also love. I.E., I am testing aspects of Janey's personality and I assure all that she is quite healthy in all ways. I do therapy twice a week and I have psychologists and psychiatrists who study every aspect of my experience.

If anyone ever saw the movie, Ruby Spears, which I highly recommended, my situation is very similar. The movie dealt with an author who meets his "dream" woman but who soon realizes that he has created her and controls her in print. Regardless, Ruby was amazing and yes, beautiful and she had that thing going for her that not many people have after about 22. Ruby loved life and she loved experiencing it. Janey has that aspect of personality almost completely. But beyond this, at some point, the creator and the created becomes intertwined and well, Janey is just a different person than Will in this mode. Janey has for some reason, or rather is, a hyper-responder from extremely large amounts of E2 mostly. My other meds really aren't needed by E2 but they are for belt and suspender purposes. But my Ego loves this Janey personality and basically, it is my Ego that organizes Will versus Jane.

So, I am not sure what more I can really do for others except to keep posting pics of both Will and Jane and it is for both positive and negative reinforcement. I use the photography as creative art work as well and some look so descriptive but this is basically, Janey peering around a corner and wondering "is it okay yet if I come out and have some fun being Janey"?

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So roughly this is Will. Janey and Will are on a collision course and like matter and anti-matter will, well, nothing that cool but if my plan was to at least facially and hair-wise, achieve passing if not attractive status while being Janey--well, she ain't ugly at least based upon who hits on her. Even a schoolteacher, Goddess. But yeah, the goal was to have Janey and Will meet sort of seamlessly together at some date in the future.

Ego, Will or Janey will be back as a "parent" soon but I am not sure what the preference of others is. I could go partially back to Will in terms of dress but it's still Janey calling the shots and this is what Will, himself, in fact wanted. So if I seem self-absorbed, my friends, I have good cause. Anyway, this person looks vaguely like Elliot Page in the before pics. Does this person still pass as male? I would love feedback just related to what I say in my custody case. The thing that I can't get over is how young I look after beard removal and HRT. I feel young too.

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Back to the transgender personality issue, there's a pretty big gap between being transfeminine and regarding oneself as female. I have tried not to hide my own binary elements which seem to be becoming stronger in the sense of one main personality essentially shutting down the other. So no dead names; no distress about how my alter ego was treated. He was treated okay; he just wanted out without committing suicide and this provides a chance to start over. To the extent that Janey seems "off" at times, it's hard to describe but she has many reasons to be giddy about HRT treatments. Anyway, here is an article by an FtM who otherwise resembles me and my thought process:

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Trans People, Trauma, and Dissociative Identities

I have sat witness to a many a conversation in which people — even trans people — have said that the only reason to disallow someone's transition is if they are “truly crazy — like schizophrenic or multiple personality disorders or something.” This notion derives from the false belief that disabili
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Response to the Stackers in both Hair loss meds and HRT

I want my CPA, er, Bica, er spironolactone? Nope.

It's not so much as CPA can cause cancer and liver problems but hey, I used Premarin so that's your choice obviously but I don't think CPA does anything worthwhile. AA's were used in fact to lessen the amounts of Premarin or EE used but it wasn't needed for results at all. Now people think AA's actually do something besides leech off estrogen and they don't. If people are dying to use these meds, then I mean fine but there's not much evidence that they do anything positive except decrease estrogen amounts needed. They don't grow breasts or create a figure or anything else. That's why they tend to be useless for XY's and work much better for XX's cause XX's already have estradiol. On the hair loss site I frequent, we just had someone try bica alone for seven months and he ended up using very large amounts of injected estradiol because bica did zero. Poor guy had been gloating for months before that he was going on Bica and all of his hair would grow back but it didn't work.

I know what I know. Maybe I am just lucky but the estradiol-only protocol is much healthier regardless but if you think CPA somehow feminizes, more than estrogen, I would be willing to hear but AA's and P4 are redundant to estrogen in wpath. People are all excited: I am on bica! The best AA! The best AA is no AA. My endo prescribed me 200mg daily of prometrium and I was all excited because that's enough not to have to use them rectally but I know, according to the literature posted right on here that there's no evidence that P4 does anything except act as a soporific and I can't even duplicate that effect. People try to make this simpler and strip down to just estradiol and the hordes prefer to swallow four different things with little to nothing in the literature to support them instead of just estradiol.

Four meds must be better than just one says Janey.

Nah, just in MtF-land where people will try anything if it might produce results but using Rube Goldberg protocols and adding superfluous meds does not in fact give us "results". It's very similar to the balding XY's on the hair loss sites who try stuff again and again that does nothing much for anyone but they figure, well I will just stack a bunch of meds that do little or nothing for synergy or something. It never grows hair because only estradiol can do that. So these poor guys come on here and they start using RU and 17-alpha and I forget even the name of the expensive Czech one that does nothing much worthwhile because they read that finasteride is poisonous and it never turns out well because losing even six to 12 months of maintenance can be a life-long disaster that males have no way of recovering from ever. But hey, they didn't commit suicide or flunk all of their classes from finasteride-induced brain fog. That's why I am down on pretty much all of the experimental threads and conjectured baldness palliatives if not cures.

They distract the people who really do want help.

Goddess Bless,
Janey

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