Goingat20, here is the RU plan

[JohnnySeville]

If you don't have a paypal account it can be a pain. If I send it to your email address they will send you an email stating someone has sent you money and it will instruct you on how to open an account. Normally they have you link a checking account to it so you can transfer money from your PP account to yourself, but this can take time since they need to verify it is your account by a method of sending 2 payments to your checking account and having you verify the amounts.

The only other way to claiming small amounts of money out would be to choose the option of them sending you a check, they charge $1 I think for this method.

Let me know whichever way you want to work it out.

 

[CCS]

$1 is fine. But I already have an account. It just is not linked to a checking account right now. After they sent me the two small deposits, I entered them and it did not work. Then a month later, I got a spoof email and changed my bank account number to be safe (I now know that was not needed). But now on the verify screen, I can't change my bank. And customer service has not responded to me yet. I don't care how soon I get the money as long as it is in my account. I plan to buy textbooks on paypal in for the spring anyway. So if I have an account, what information do I need to give everyone?

 

[JohnnySeville]

Just need your email address and total. Just to make sure what will you be sending me and how long will it last? I have never mixed this, but have a pharmacist friend of mine who would do it if necessary. Also the big question, storage of the solution and whatever is left. I have no experience in this stuff and hear about the stability problems, do you have suggestions on this.?


I was thinking of using it as per the macaque trials, 5% solution, once daily, 5 days on 2 off. Any better recommendations. I know it is all hit or miss but thought you might have some feedback from others using it.

 

[CCS]

2g of RU588441 http://www.anagen.net/ru.gif the most powerful androgen recepter blocker we know of, which in one study topically shrank hampster flank organ by 60%, compared ot 30% by spironolactone and 75% by castration. The cost is $90 for the two grams. I'm not making any money on that, except maybe 2 or 3 dollars to compensate me for my time. It was $390 for the 10g plus shipping, and I had other expenses.

I'd prefer to mail you the ethanol and propylene glycol in a separate bottle, a 1oz bottle, and 2g of RU58841 in a separate transaction so I can be done with the deal, but everyone else here wants me to mail them the made solution every month until their shair is gone. I can do either for you, but will just charge an additional $5 for each time I have to ship another box. The solution must be refridgerated and may only be good for 30 days. I'll also send you photo copies of the paperwork they sent me.

RU powder must be kept away from moisture, not opened more than necessary, and stored in the freezer. When you make a new solution, you must let it thaw fore 2 hours before opening the bottle. Add the powder to the right amount of powder to the ethanol/propylene glycol. If you want to use water, don't add it first to the water, since the bulk powder can clump before it is solution. I think it may be best not to use water at all.

Realize that a bottle of 5% minoxidil 60mL, that lasts a month @ 2mL per day has 2g of minoxidil. You are buying only 2g of solution. I suggest using between 3.33 to 5% concentration, and dosing so it lasts at least 2 months, though probably 4 months. The goal is to see if it works at all by applying it to only one side of your head and comparing to the other. The test spot may be smaller than half the area for a good test. I suggested 0.5mL x 3.33% x 4 months. If you want to do 5%, that will drop you to 2.67 months.

If you accept this RU58841, please post before pictures of the top of your head in this thread, and then post monthly pictures with the test area labled.





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[CCS]

the purpose of this experiment is to find out if RU works and tell everyone here so they can decide if they want to buy it themself. 2g is not enough to make 1mL of 5% per day for your whole head and have it last much more than a month. I think anyone can make their own, as long as they stay away from water vapor when making it and only open it as long as needed and use a dry spoon to get some out and put it straight into the ethanol and swirl it and put the powder back in the freezer, tightly closed in two zip lock bags to keep the moisture out. If the outer bag has moister when you open it, replace it with a new one. The stuff should last a long time that way.

 

[CCS]

if this stuff turns into a wonder drug, I'll buy 10g for myself. Until then, I'm using cheap, homemade spironolactone. It is weaker, but I can put 2mL per day on my head for $5 per month.

I think RU may be very good even compared to dutasteride, since RU blocks testosterone as well as DHT. Goingat20 read a study that Bryan posted which showed the monkeys responded better to RU than even high doses of finasteride. Imagine what will happen when you take oral finasteride and topical RU. Not even castration will grow back all your hair, or maybe not even most of it. But I think the combo should be stronger, since castration only gets rid of 95% of androgens, and the petuitary gland makes the remaining 5%. Still need a growth stimulant for the best results.

 

[CCS]

I sent all of you guys PM's, but your mail boxes are full, so you have not got them yet.

They were asking you for your mailing addresses so I could send you the first month supply if you are in a hury.

 

[JohnnySeville]

Thanks for responding. I am not so sure I would be a good candidate for this test. I had a transplant about 2 months ago and wanted to use it to increase growth of my native hair in the transplant area. I do not think my results would give an accurate indication of how well it worked or didn't work. My transplanted hair will not grow uniformly, sometimes one side grows faster than the other, no way of knowing the pattern that is to come. If I choose the fast side it will seem like the RU will have made by hair grow like wildfire, if I choose the slow side its efficacy will not be evident.

I have no problem posting pictures, just think it will be misleading. I was prepared to purchase directly from faitheagle, having emailed them several times but figured this would be a cheap way of testing it before I commited $390 for the 10 grams. It is really up to you.

 

[CCS]

I know what you are saying. I have the same exact problem with my hair grafts. And I don't have a camera. People keep asking me for pictures, though.

Even your grafts will come in thin at first. I could sell it to you if you think you can visually tell the difference, but if you don't, I think it would be best for me to offer the 2g to another guy who asked for them about a week ago. I was going to try it myself, but then I was offered some free spironolactone from someone who likes my advice.

 

[JohnnySeville]

I guess maybe it would be a better idea, at least from the standpoint of testing, that you see if the other guy still wants it. If not, rather than sitting with it, let me know and I will pick it up. I won't be ordering it until the first of the year anyway, so if things change let me know. Thanks for considering selling it to me. Good Luck with the test.

 

[sphlanx2006]

Guys what you are up to is great.

Just wondering if RU has a chance to be a very effective drug, how come its not commercially available?

 

[bubka]

CCS, you give them your email that PP has you registered with... now PP gets the money, and can transfer that to your bank account, or mail you a check for $1 fee

it's really not that tough, people have been using it since like 98' or something

 

[CCS]

OK, thanks Bubka.

 

[Goingat20]

ive sent u a pm ccs of my details

 

[Newbaldy84]

I wish you the best luck with RU guys. I already used up 5 grams and I am about to make another solution. One thing I know is I will be ordering more after I run out.

 

[CCS]

I wish RU was cheaper. I wonder if selling more of it would do that. No way making that chemical could cost so much.

 

[Goingat20]

Hey ccs
let me know when you ship the ru
thanks

 

[Guest]

I wish RU was cheaper. I wonder if selling more of it would do that. No way making that chemical could cost so much.

it wouldn't make it cheaper. with only one supplier they could raise the price by a couple hundred and you guys would still probably try it.

 

[Newbaldy84]

I wish RU was cheaper. I wonder if selling more of it would do that. No way making that chemical could cost so much.

it wouldn't make it cheaper. with only one supplier they could raise the price by a couple hundred and you guys would still probably try it.

shhhhhhhhh ! stop putting ideas in peoples heads

 

[j3nate]

Hey all, new to the boards, but interested in RU . . .

CCS are you using the RU yet? And if so, what's the update?

Newbaldy84, is the RU still working for U?