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docj077 said:wookiewannabe said:docj077 said:Fibrosis and collagen deposition with possible lymphocytic infiltrates happens at the same time follicular miniaturization is occurring.
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docj077 said:The edema is caused by the lymphocytic infiltrate. Not the other way around. Edema is the last step if it even is a step.
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You are saying that follicular miniaturization via genetically programmed response to androgens precedes end stage edema... yes or no...
Seeing as how end stage edema has never been seen in a study involving a male with androgenic alopecia, I don't really need to answer that. Follicular miniaturization takes place at the exact same time that fibrosis and collagen deposition is occurring.
Then there is no edema of the scalp tissues in most people with male pattern baldness?
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S Foote said:There is an interesting experiment anyone can try, this is the pitting edema test.
This gives a rough guide to the amount of fluid in surface tissues.
You push hard on the skin with a finger tip for around 20 seconds. When you remove the finger, the presence of a "dent" indicates that there is excess fluid in the tissue. The finger pressure has pushed this fluid away.
The depth of the dent and the time it takes to level out again, gives an idea of tissue fluid levels.
You can try this in various areas to get a comparison of local tissue fluid levels.