Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

Almas_NW0

Senior Member
My Regimen
Reaction score
1,484
1762442640809.png

1762442651510.png
 

exwhyyou

Experienced Member
My Regimen
Reaction score
-88
i notice that if i don't hit 120g of protein daily that my hair doesn't look good. it's admittedly extremely hard to keep this up over long periods of time. but without hitting that benchmark i believe it is impossible to see the full benefits of estradiol and even minoxidil.
 

exwhyyou

Experienced Member
My Regimen
Reaction score
-88
you people don't take diet seriously as if it doesn't make sense. if you're shedding muscle you're probably shedding hair, obviously this is mostly because of our sh*t genetics, if we had better hair genetics we could handle less protein
 

Almas_NW0

Senior Member
My Regimen
Reaction score
1,484
also lol. 175cm lmao hahaah ur definately a bottom boy b**ch
Can you say the same to Tom Hardy, Jason Statham, Al Pacino, Conor McGregor, Casey Affleck, and Brad Pitt, who's only 2cm taller than me? You've been online too long and lost touch with reality.
 

Adri23

Senior Member
My Regimen
Reaction score
2,526
Quick update of my case if someone is curious in what happens of you do an orchi and reduce your e2 by a lot:

T increased: from 25 to 40 ng/dl
LH increased from <0.07 to 1.31 mUI/mL
E2 decreased from 290 to 180 pg/ml (trough)

Those are the results I got right now. I still need to know others like Free T, DHT, SHBG, Androstenedione, DHEA, DHEA-S, ACTH, 17OHP and IGF-1(have more parameters that are not important to post here).

All this said, not very worries right now of the LH surge because I have no testicles and not worried about T increased by almost double because I still take bica EOD which should cover me plus that T could free some SHBG since last time was in 90 and I wanted it a bit lower anyways. DHT is the only one that worries me but it is not yet available.

Note: I have been reading and the surge of LH could have triggered an increase of adrenal androgens as well but im not sure about this I am yet waiting to see results, that could explain why more T.
 
Last edited:

Almas_NW0

Senior Member
My Regimen
Reaction score
1,484
Quick update of my case if someone is curious in what happens of you do an orchi and reduce your e2 by a lot:

T increased: from 25 to 40 ng/dl
LH increased from <0.07 to 1.31 mUI/mL
E2 decreased from 290 to 180 pg/ml (trough)

Those are the results I got right now. I still need to know others like Free T, DHT, SHBG, Androstenedione, DHEA, DHEA-S, ACTH, 17OHP and IGF-1(have more parameters that are not important to post here).

All this said, not very worries right now of the LH surge because I have no testicles and not worried about T increased by almost double because I still take bica EOD which should cover me plus that T could free some SHBG since last time was in 90 and I wanted it a bit lower anyways. DHT is the only one that worries me but it is not yet available.

Note: I have been reading and the surge of LH could have triggered an increase of adrenal androgens as well but im not sure about this I am yet waiting to see results, that could explain why more T.
I don't know what the point of an orchiectomy was if my testosterone levels are lower than yours without the orchiectomy.
 

Adri23

Senior Member
My Regimen
Reaction score
2,526
I don't know what the point of an orchiectomy was if my testosterone levels are lower than yours without the orchiectomy.
You lower your levels which allows shbg to get lower and estradiol to work better. Also the igf-1 should be higher with lower e2. If your e2 ls like +300 pg/ml long term you are at higher risk of autoinmune diseases and inflammation. Also high estradiol can elevate histamines which I already have histamine intolerance and my gut is bloated, if I have lot of estradiol things get worse. I also tend to have more libido with higher levels of e2 and I rly don't like to have libido at all. Some ppl gets more water retention, that is not something I have experienced. Also it can affect cortisol binding globulin and thyroxine-binding globuline. But most important there are people that claims less e2 with a not very suppressed LH causes the body to lower DHT, I have yet to see if that is true.
 
Last edited:

Adri23

Senior Member
My Regimen
Reaction score
2,526
Quick update of my case if someone is curious in what happens of you do an orchi and reduce your e2 by a lot:

T increased: from 25 to 40 ng/dl
LH increased from <0.07 to 1.31 mUI/mL
E2 decreased from 290 to 180 pg/ml (trough)

Those are the results I got right now. I still need to know others like Free T, DHT, SHBG, Androstenedione, DHEA, DHEA-S, ACTH, 17OHP and IGF-1(have more parameters that are not important to post here).

All this said, not very worries right now of the LH surge because I have no testicles and not worried about T increased by almost double because I still take bica EOD which should cover me plus that T could free some SHBG since last time was in 90 and I wanted it a bit lower anyways. DHT is the only one that worries me but it is not yet available.

Note: I have been reading and the surge of LH could have triggered an increase of adrenal androgens as well but im not sure about this I am yet waiting to see results, that could explain why more T.
I got resulta from the other blood test i did (did 2 yeah 2 one on tuesday and the other on wednesday) and my T in the tuesday's blood test is 24 ng/dl, very imprecise between labs. Adrenal androgens has gotten lower, not by much tho. A diol g is lower, estrogen to estrone ratio is fucked now vs higher estradiol and lh has increased on both blood test. My tsh is between 4.4 to 6 depending on the lab. DHT still high 19.5 ng/dl but is in the lab that always comes back high. Waiting to the other one that gives more reliable results.

Regardles I have experienced with 3 mg but I think I will use 3.5 mg per week since I have a lot of mod swings and maybe I can lower slightly LH which shouldnt affect since I have no testicles but wanna test if using a bit more estradiol the estradiol/estrone gets better.
 

exwhyyou

Experienced Member
My Regimen
Reaction score
-88
all those numbers are fine and whatnot but has your hair and face changed at all? did you immediately stop shooting estradiol after orchi or was there time in between?
 

exwhyyou

Experienced Member
My Regimen
Reaction score
-88
I also tend to have more libido with higher levels of e2 and I rly don't like to have libido at all.
yea but is it worth it for hair? You focus on so many different factors that it’s hard to see where your goals truly lie
 

Adri23

Senior Member
My Regimen
Reaction score
2,526
all those numbers are fine and whatnot but has your hair and face changed at all? did you immediately stop shooting estradiol after orchi or was there time in between?
Man I barely have density anymore. I look like f*****g gollum lol some ppl are just destined to be bald and ugly despite everything
 

exwhyyou

Experienced Member
My Regimen
Reaction score
-88
Man I barely have density anymore. I look like f*****g gollum lol some ppl are just destined to be bald and ugly despite everything
I just don’t understand what your plan is to generate more hair follicles with low E2 and I already know you’re starving yourself for financial reasons and body idealizations. If post-menopausal women can barely grow hair on their head I don’t understand why you want that sort of hormonal set up.

you should check out this thread:
 

Adri23

Senior Member
My Regimen
Reaction score
2,526
I just don’t understand what your plan is to generate more hair follicles with low E2 and I already know you’re starving yourself for financial reasons and body idealizations. If post-menopausal women can barely grow hair on their head I don’t understand why you want that sort of hormonal set up.

you should check out this thread:
I dont have low e2. 190 pg/ml at trough is a great level idk what ur talking about. And im not starving myself wtf
 

pentobean

Established Member
My Regimen
Reaction score
69
I’m back now bc I had to go off cypro it’s been 3/4 weeks off it and now my androgens have risen, I used bica for like 10 days and then decided f*** that it made my liver pain worse and now I’m on spironolactone 125mg, I’m so fucked since my T levels and receptors are just open rn and I can feel the surge of masculinization again. Now it’ll tkse 4 weeks for spironolactone to fully work

Holy f*** hormonal dysphoria is probably one of the worst things to experience mentally
 

pentobean

Established Member
My Regimen
Reaction score
69
why the f*** can’t I just get an orchie lol? f*** this bullshit I don’t need masculinization in my body, they make it so hard to get.
 
Top