Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

50mg bica will do you in, mark my words. I didn't have gyno on 2mg e and 100mg spironolactone

Good to know, too bad I can't take spironolactone though, it would dry me out horribly.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

I mean pharmaceutical grade estradiol. And yes, Walgreens, CVS, etc. For now one has to resort to online pharmacies without an Rx.

I agree but I got in trouble for saying T should be prescription only. Estradiol is hard to abuse, Goddess knows.

 

[Ephemeral-Kitten]

>>cisoids

Ok well your bias is well established then.

The problem is that munchausen by proxy is pretty common and parents are right to be terrified of the idea of using exogenous hormones on kids because even hormone blockers can f*** up puberty, especially for boys.

The time lost from using hormone blockers during puberty is not time they can gain again later on in life, that's taken from them permanently and will permanently affect their morphology should they decide not to fully transition.

Being cautious and circumspect isn't abuse, but the incidence of munchausen by proxy among kids under age 16 is 0.5/100,000 documented.

And I don't believe such a disorder is relegated to merely harming a child but merely using the child as a means to garner attention.

Don't block access for all trans teen girls to preventing their bones from being destroyed forever irreversibly and having their voice destroyed irreversibly because of a tiny minority of psycho parents when the vast overwhelming majority of parents are abusive towards trans teens.

One cis boy's life is not worth more than one trans girl's life. The lack of access for trans teens happens more often than the munchausen BS.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

Good to know, too bad I can't take spironolactone though, it would dry me out horribly.

You can take over for me as the voice of non-breast growth. Dogo is giving me a hard time in a nice way about giving up on a path for cis guys that doesn't feminize.

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

>>cisoids

Ok well your bias is well established then.

The problem is that munchausen by proxy is pretty common and parents are right to be terrified of the idea of using exogenous hormones on kids because even hormone blockers can f*** up puberty, especially for boys.

The time lost from using hormone blockers during puberty is not time they can gain again later on in life, that's taken from them permanently and will permanently affect their morphology should they decide not to fully transition.

Being cautious and circumspect isn't abuse, but the incidence of munchausen by proxy among kids under age 16 is 0.5/100,000 documented.

And I don't believe such a disorder is relegated to merely harming a child but merely using the child as a means to garner attention.

The incidence of transgenderism is much higher than munchausen by proxy. So it's odd to safeguard for one by limiting the other

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

Good to know, too bad I can't take spironolactone though, it would dry me out horribly.

That's the part of you I love as an MtF You just love looking in the mirror at your face and it matters a lot to you.

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

We always can get gyno surgergy. Whats most concerning for me is fat redistribution and muscle loss, as well as ED.

The problem is: how long can we keep that strong kind of strong regimen!? Its undoable to keep that. You will definitely get to the point, where you just CAN'T handle it. But I am on the same boat, being desparate. Started with finasteride now, might consider bica when I am finally 18.

If you are having hair issues under the age of 18 I'm not sure how it will pan out for you. But in the case of males who have had strong hair growth and density through their teens and 20s, you shouldn't worry about fat distribution or strength loss. As I've said before, you're dialing the clock back hormonally, that's it.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

The incidence of transgenderism is much higher than munchausen by proxy. So it's odd to safeguard for one by limiting the other

What about Eonism?

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

If you are having hair issues under the age of 18 I'm not sure how it will pan out for you. But in the case of males who have had strong hair growth and density through their teens and 20s, you shouldn't worry about fat distribution or strength loss. As I've said before, you're dialing the clock back hormonally, that's it.

spironolactone made me weak as a kitten.

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

The incidence of transgenderism is much higher than munchausen by proxy. So it's odd to safeguard for one by limiting the other

Neither of those things are supposed to co-witness, furthermore, if you really want to argue then why has the incidence of transgenderism suddenly exploded in amidst political activism and propaganda surrounding it?

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

Neither of those things are supposed to co-witness, furthermore, if you really want to argue then why has the incidence of transgenderism suddenly exploded in amidst political activism and propaganda surrounding it?

Because guys like me are now willing to come out in spite of the shame is part of it.... But I lost everything except for jane doing this

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

Neither of those things are supposed to co-witness, furthermore, if you really want to argue then why has the incidence of transgenderism suddenly exploded in amidst political activism and propaganda surrounding it?

Because reducing social stigma and increasing awareness tends to do that

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

spironolactone made me weak as a kitten.

You've sold me on never being on spironolactone for that and other reasons.

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

Because reducing social stigma and increasing awareness tends to do that

That's begging the question and does not call into account other very extant human inclinations.

Propagandizing is not the same as removing stigma.

 

[Ephemeral-Kitten]

Neither of those things are supposed to co-witness, furthermore, if you really want to argue then why has the incidence of transgenderism suddenly exploded in amidst political activism and propaganda surrounding it?

Munchausen by proxy is less common, full stop, than gender dysphoria. Even if it was a 1:1 ratio of trans girls and munchausen (it's nothing like this at all, far more legit trans girls seek care). you're still valuing one cis boy higher than one trans girl, which is fucked up.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

You've sold me on never being on spironolactone for that and other reasons.

I say often that my goal for everyone is to be as attractive as possible along with their goals so I try to write on that level mostly but sometimes I write about the psychological struggles.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

Munchausen by proxy is less common, full stop, than gender dysphoria. Even if it was a 1:1 ratio of trans girls and munchausen (it's nothing like this at all, far more legit trans girls seek care). you're still valuing one cis boy higher than one trans girl, which is fucked up.

Where did that worde come from? And my stupid laptop ades an e now for soem reason

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

That's begging the question and does not call into account other very extant human inclinations.

Propagandizing is not the same as removing stigma.

I guess one person's awareness/acceptance is another person's propaganda. To me it sounds like you've been subject to certain anti trans propaganda.

 

[Ephemeral-Kitten]

Where did that worde come from? And my stupid laptop ades an e now for soem reason

Munchausen? Dogo brought it up in his anti-trans screed about gatekeeping HRT for under 18s and letting trans girls be poisoned for life with bone deformities.

 

[Pls_NW-1]

If you are having hair issues under the age of 18 I'm not sure how it will pan out for you. But in the case of males who have had strong hair growth and density through their teens and 20s, you shouldn't worry about fat distribution or strength loss. As I've said before, you're dialing the clock back hormonally, that's it.

I am having hair issues since puberty began for me. Androgens are whipping out my hair.

Don't know what to do.