Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[Almas_NW0]

What is your regime? Have you tried RU? Have you stopped the progression?

like a woman

Umm... )

 

[losingbattle88]

What is your regime? Have you tried RU? Have you stopped the progression?

Umm... )

I have tried ru a few times even 10 years ago or so and pretty recently a few months ago didnt use it long enough like 2 months. First time it gave me thin spots after 2 months, second time I felt like I was about to die when I mixed it with minoxidil and had crazy Telogen Effluvium lost 1000 hairs daily for a few months. Third time I used it with topical finasteride and didnt lose less hairs or anything and hairs just got slowly thinner. I have been debating of going back on it with topical finasteride again but I dunno man. Its expensive and its no miracle at least for me. Atm I just use topical finasteride with min and oral min. If I dont maintain on this I will add in RU. Dont wanna use all treatments at once then I wont know what works and what doesnt. And I end up paying alot for ru for nothing.

 

[Almas_NW0]

I have tried ru a few times even 10 years ago or so and pretty recently a few months ago didnt use it long enough like 2 months. First time it gave me thin spots after 2 months, second time I felt like I was about to die when I mixed it with minoxidil and had crazy Telogen Effluvium lost 1000 hairs daily for a few months. Third time I used it with topical finasteride and didnt lose less hairs or anything and hairs just got slowly thinner. I have been debating of going back on it with topical finasteride again but I dunno man. Its expensive and its no miracle at least for me. Atm I just use topical finasteride with min and oral min. If I dont maintain on this I will add in RU. Dont wanna use all treatments at once then I wont know what works and what doesnt. And I end up paying alot for ru for nothing.

If I were to go back to 2020, I would try 100mg RU + Finasteride before going on HRT.
Try this, then go on HRT and become a femboy, bro :з

 

[losingbattle88]

If I were to go back to 2020, I would try 100mg RU + Finasteride before going on HRT.
Try this, then go on HRT and become a femboy, bro :з

Ye that is what you should have done. I mean for me even having weak ejaculation force on finasteride makes me depressed. I wont accept other negative sides so I would never ever go on HRT no matter what. My orgasms are less intense now even :/ this is why I use low dose topical finasteride instead of oral finasteride to lessen this side effect.

 

[losingbattle88]

Damn I wish, also ru will not bring back quality, nothing will. Once you plateau on that little quality improvements you get maintenance at best, thats what i've gotten from all this bullshit I tried. It all comes down to stem cells, more you have them better the outcome long term (meaning acting early). I almost have all hair on my head, but nw6 part is never gonna be as sturdy and thick as back and sides ever again.

One guy in discord stopped using RU for 15 days because he had some shortness of breath and today he complained about shed and itchy scalp while still on topical finasteride. He is aggressive balder, his dad is retrograded nw7 with no hair in donor.

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he is on topical finasteride min and ru for 2 years. I do not believe RU is good enough as standalone but some reported using it for years as only treatment.

Well bad for him. I never have any itch or shedding. And ru dont make any difference while on or off it in my case.

 

[losingbattle88]

And this is correct, but you are looking at it wrong way. Minoxidil and similar compounds when applied locally absorb into your scalp up to 12h, meaning once it goes into your skin it stays in it 1 hour being active (in blood, not skin, so technically irrelevant), but stream of ru keeps coming with time until it dries up completely.

This was my reasoning too, and because of that I went with hrt.


From minoxidil study, explained by jeff donovan:



Most men dont need ru, just dutasteride to be baldness-free for life but people are pussies.

Well dutasteride or finasteride didnt put a dent on my thinning hair, and im very far away from being an aggressive Balder. Some people just dont respond. Read many others like me. All dutasteride did was reducing hairfall and gave me almost retrograde ejaculation. finasteride does the same damn thing and its now a permanent side effect. f*****g hate my life. Couldnt stop thinning hair and now im stuck with a permanent side effect just f*****g great. To tell you the truth ever since quitting dutasteride my hair thinning slowed down dramatically and even felt thicker. dutasteride is garbage for some. Yes im a rare case but it is what it is. How come you went from using 50mg ru to f*****g 150mg? It lost effectiveness is my guess.

 

[Almas_NW0]

ru will not bring back quality, nothing will. Once you plateau on that little quality improvements you get maintenance at best

This is a sad fact that I realized about 1.5 years ago when 1 year of HRT did nothing for the quality of my hair. Now I can only remember how great it was when all the hair on my head was thick and shiny, allowing me to do any styling

 

[Adri23]

This is a sad fact that I realized about 1.5 years ago when 1 year of HRT did nothing for the quality of my hair. Now I can only remember how great it was when all the hair on my head was thick and shiny, allowing me to do any styling

Same happened to me but in my case, I'm that unlucky that I'm losing my quality of hair and my temples fast paced even with HRT bicalutamide dutasteride and oral minoxidil, so trust me I'm in a waay worse spot than you are, literally 0 androgens and low as fck A diol G and I'm still suffering from all the sh*t mentioned above. I supplement vitamin b12 vitamin D checked my thyroid and nothing ever seems to help.

 

[losingbattle88]

Same happened to me but in my case, I'm that unlucky that I'm losing my quality of hair and my temples fast paced even with HRT bicalutamide dutasteride and oral minoxidil, so trust me I'm in a waay worse spot than you are, literally 0 androgens and low as fck A diol G and I'm still suffering from all the sh*t mentioned above. I supplement vitamin b12 vitamin D checked my thyroid and nothing ever seems to help.

I think we got a combination of male pattern baldness and something else. My hair for example grows short in some places and longer in others and it grows slow AF. Despite using all the vitamins in the world. And eating well.

 

[Almas_NW0]

Same happened to me but in my case, I'm that unlucky that I'm losing my quality of hair and my temples fast paced even with HRT bicalutamide dutasteride and oral minoxidil, so trust me I'm in a waay worse spot than you are, literally 0 androgens and low as fck A diol G and I'm still suffering from all the sh*t mentioned above. I supplement vitamin b12 vitamin D checked my thyroid and nothing ever seems to help.

Try adding RU to your routine.

 

[Almas_NW0]

I think we got a combination of male pattern baldness and something else. My hair for example grows short in some places and longer in others and it grows slow AF. Despite using all the vitamins in the world. And eating well.

Hair shortening is typical for Androgenetic Alopecia. The anagen phase is shortened. Before starting HRT, the hair on my head in the parting area and crown did not grow more than a centimeter in length. After starting HRT, they began to slowly increase in length with each new cycle and are now growing just as long, but their thickness remains the same.

 

[losingbattle88]

Hair shortening is typical for Androgenetic Alopecia. The anagen phase is shortened. Before starting HRT, the hair on my head in the parting area and crown did not grow more than a centimeter in length. After starting HRT, they began to slowly increase in length with each new cycle and are now growing just as long, but their thickness remains the same.

Well I have read some say that their hair grows fast af despite male pattern baldness. Also the hair Strands that grow short are thick and strong as hell not thinned out or weak at all which is very strange. I know what miniaturized hairs looks like. I will probably buy 10g ru powder next month from actifolic again and give it more time. I wish I didnt throw away 8g of ru in the trash lol. My hair just looked abit thinner and hair grew even slower but could be all in my head. I didnt have enough money to afford it before anyways.

 

[Almas_NW0]

Starting 200mg oral RU and oral min 20mg both twice daily today wish me luck

RU oral? Something new.

 

[losingbattle88]

RU oral? Something new.

Yes its better it goes straight to your receptors in your heart and gives you a heart attack which pumps alot of blood to your folicles and they grow like CRAZY!!! You should try it

 

[Almas_NW0]

The fact that HRT can only provide support suggests that the key to hair restoration should be sought not only in hormones and receptors. They are the key to stopping baldness, but not restoring hair.
Even growth promoters such as Minoxidil do not improve hair quality to pre-bald levels. Those changes in follicles that occur with Androgenetic Alopecia are irreversible. Considering that at the current stage of development of trichology (who was stuck discussing the side effects of Finasteride for the next three centuries) we have difficulty even coping with simply stopping baldness, there is no hope that anything will change in this regard.

 

[Ticken]

The fact that HRT can only provide support suggests that the key to hair restoration should be sought not only in hormones and receptors. They are the key to stopping baldness, but not restoring hair.

Oxidative Stress may also be playing a part in hair loss for those not fully responding to hormone treatments

 

[losingbattle88]

Oxidative Stress may also be playing a part in hair loss for those not fully responding to hormone treatments

Ye I dont respond at all. Check my regimen.

 

[exwhyyou]

people are pussies.

Most of the people in this thread are pussies who are overly obsessed with the ability to jizz and care way more about jizzing than their hair. Horrible.

 

[exwhyyou]

@Adri23 do you microneedle/scalp massage/bloodflow? I feel like it doesn't help dudes with testosterone but it boosts my results now being on HRT.

 

[Adri23]

@Adri23 do you microneedle/scalp massage/bloodflow? I feel like it doesn't help dudes with testosterone but it boosts my results now being on HRT.

I was about to try microneedling till a very famous trichologist on my country uploaded a video saying that microneedling can harm hair long term. Abandoned the idea.