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Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

Discussion in 'Success Stories' started by bridgeburn, Oct 27, 2017.

  1. Jesse Navarro

    Jesse Navarro Established Member My Regimen

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    So sometimes tingling might be a good thing after all...
     
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    bridgeburn Experienced Member My Regimen

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    Not on cypro anymore, just dutasteride, oral minoxidil, and E.
     
  3. Choi Han Kyul

    Choi Han Kyul Established Member My Regimen

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    I’ve been on some forums for women who have undergone full hysterectomy, and are suffering menopausal/hormonal symptoms from it. Many of them use topical E and complain that estrogel specifically causes itching and tingling of the scalp, and that when progesterone was upped it diminished. Alternatively, some of the women said that the tingling stopped with a higher dose of E, 2mg or above.
     
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  5. Choi Han Kyul

    Choi Han Kyul Established Member My Regimen

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    What do you think if we dissolve estradiol in minoxidil and apply on scalp?
     
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    Georgie Senior Member My Regimen

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    How much dutas are you taking?
     
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    Georgie Senior Member My Regimen

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    Honestly I don’t know how that would go, or if estradiol would be altered by the minoxidil or alcohol at all. You’d have to do a bit more research to find whether or not others have tried it. I mean, there’s alfatradiol which is essentially topical E, and the ingredients listed in that are “0,25 mg alfatradiol, Geruchskorrigens adjuvant (+), Glycerol adjuvant (+), Inositol adjuvant (+), Isopropyl alcohol excipient (+), Water, cleaned adjuvant ”. It would be trial and error as to weather adding gel or crushed tablets to minoxidil would work.
     
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  8. Choi Han Kyul

    Choi Han Kyul Established Member My Regimen

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    We are guinea pigs. :(
    Anyway, in the span of last 24 hours I lost approximately 400 hairs. That’s frigging insane. My eyebrows are burning as well as my body feels itchy. This really is fucked up now.

    Did you as well shed that much along with the itch.

    I am on duta, spironolactone and loniten.
     
  9. Georgie

    Georgie Senior Member My Regimen

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    It could be any one of those things causing a shed. For me personally, the I’ve taken the pill (still am), spironolactone, now dutas and topical/oral minoxidil. All began with a shed, but minoxidil is the only thing that caused 200-400 hairs a day, so if you have started or increased oral minoxidil I reckon that’s it.
     
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  10. Choi Han Kyul

    Choi Han Kyul Established Member My Regimen

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    Not increased but kept it a constant at 5mg per day.
    I am riding the shedding train. Hell of a journey.
     
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    Georgie Senior Member My Regimen

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    It’s demoralizing isn’t it. I wash my hair every day, will pull out 50-80 hairs in the shower alone and watch my hair just get thinner and thinner all the time. I only started on dutas and RU a few weeks back (hairloss hasn’t stopped though), but the fact that things are still getting worse all the time is enough to make any hope very small, and some days I consider suicide. I feel like my body is just broken and won’t be fixed by anything. I’m praying that the dutas/RU/pill/topical and oral minoxidil/niacinamide combo helps. I’ve been using topical cetirizine and miconazole too but will probably not continue once I run out since it doesn’t really seem to do much.
     
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  12. Choi Han Kyul

    Choi Han Kyul Established Member My Regimen

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    To be frank, I also am vacillating between strong emotions both on the positive and negative spectrum on the emotional scale. One part in me just wishes to die; I am having panic attack and suicidal tendency. On the other hand, I have a side to me that is telling me to shave it off and fuck the world. The rationale that it gives me is that optimistically I have 10 years of youth (not carefree coz of male pattern baldness), left in me and pessimistically life can end any moment. Now that I have already ruined 1 year over this crap; it would be better to just shave it off, though stay on the meds and forget it.

    For me it is painful as I turn the clock year back and I have the best hair at my workplace. So the irony of life is, you study, get a job and just when you feel like you have found a great person to spend your life with, all your self confidence plummets because of male pattern baldness.

    I know it's even tougher for you since you are a lady.

    The best option really is to shave it off. Face the shit that world throws at you; the mocks, their gaze (For me it would be OMG this guy receded so goddamn quickly). Hop on life and hope on that the girl you adore will not be scared of this new person.

    Anyway, I am still locked in my room for past 2 days with my soreful head and sorrowful heart, tinkering with keyboard and contemplating my course of action. JIC I don't find the love I am seeking, I will consider relinquishing everything and jump into the philanthropist band-wagon. I do have altruistic tendencies. I wish, I was born a buddhist monk (right from your birth you are clean shaven so fuck male pattern baldness).

    Hope is a good thinking; since I am diffusing equally; I might have Telogen Effluvium though I do have Androgenetic Alopecia and slight receding at temples.
    I will carry on with the meds (dutasteride, min, finasteride) and at most add estradiol (preferably topical).
    If this turns the clock a year back and restores my temples by 2 cm, I will be a happy man.

    I wish you the strength to brace this tough time and pray that you have a head full of hair. Atleast almighty should shower you with that gift this coming year.
    Amen.
     
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    Yeah, see I feel exactly the same. Some days I’m hopeful, others like today I want to die. This year in particular has been truly awful. I did actually shave my hair off at the beginning of 2016, and also at the time had the courage to do so because I had a supportive boyfriend who loved me anyway. I became complacent as it grew back because it seemed to be thick and healthy. I was even happy with it. By June this year however, I realised that it had actually still slowly been getting thinner, and that having it shaved for a while just made me not notice so much. My hairloss is strange because of my hormones, and I actually get diffuse thinning with hairline recession like a man. Being on oral minoxidil regrew my hairline, but the all over loss never stopped.
    I also have found that minoxidil has synchronised my hairgrowth cycle, so my hairline will grow in so thick that it’s almost TOO low some months, then othe months will recede again to an abnormal level. Each time the hair gets thinner and doesn’t recover despite taking the pill. This all clicked in June when my hairline had receded to a noticeable point again and i realised I had been blind for an entire year and a half. At the time my boyfriend of 2 years also left me because he took my depression as a sign that I didn’t love him. Since about August my hairline regrew again and now I’m noticing in December the recession is happening again. Minoxidil does not seem to help my hairloss which is why I am now throwing the most powerful drugs at it that I can. It’s early days, but I’m still sad as fuck. I used to be a model with thick, long hair. Now it’s like an old woman’s hair. I have spoken to other women who have had success on minoxidil + diane35 + dutas, but my hormonal situation is so unique that it’s so hard to say what will or won’t work for me. spironolactone never did anything. The pill certainly didn’t regrow my hair, and minoxidil only seems to cause an illusion of regrowth sometimes. I’m praying Too. Every single day
     
  14. Choi Han Kyul

    Choi Han Kyul Established Member My Regimen

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    If I have to sum up this year, I lost a lot, but the most precious thing has been my hair. In-fact my hair shed timeline pretty much matches with your. My first severe shed happened in June and now it's happening again in December. Not that the intermittent months were devoid of shed but were less cruel. My entire body has been itching for past 2 days. I am sorry to hear about your relationship trouble.
    Given that I have never been in a relationship, I have strong tendency to isolate myself. You know, I was just wondering if I had a job where I did not have to interact with people; maybe If I was an author. I have shunned almost everyone. I do not interact with friends anymore nor do I go to parties. I stay away from home and now I am sick afraid of visiting my parents. I barely talk to them and my siblings. What a mockery of life it has become. Mofo male pattern baldness. If only it progressed slowly, I would have had no problem.
    Ever since I started meds, it seems like it is avenging me and has gotten aggressive.

    From someone who had a perfect mane and beard and above. avg build, I have deteriorated into shit hair and shit body phase. With the anti-androgens my beard will also take a hit. FML.

    Everytime I touch my scalp it hurts. Goddamn.

    I need a new life, somewhere away from this place, a place where being bald is perfectly fine. Infact, not just fine but where it is considered sexy.

    People are readying up for NYE and here I am sobbing.
     
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    This is getting away from bridgeburn's topic but I would personally be distraught if any of y'all killed yourselves from balding. We are brothers and sisters in this fight and we can all empathize with each other. The end of hair should not be the end of the world though it does feel like that sometimes. I will wish for strength for you all.
     
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    Do people even recognize you are going bald? Judging from you photos you have a awesome hairline and basically full density, I don't get how you could be so depressed. I'm noticeably bald so I get what you're saying in your post, I experience the same things, don't know how yours feeling so down with your NW1 hairline tho o_O
     
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  17. Choi Han Kyul

    Choi Han Kyul Established Member My Regimen

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    Please check pics above.
    I am sharing my yesterdy’s pic after applying oil to my scalp and clicking pics on flash. Then you will agree. The trouble is when you had the best hair a few months back and all of a sudden it gets so fucked up.
    It’s like riches to rags story.

    What is more troubling is that my hairloss occurs in series, especially where the mofo Doctor used 2mm pen without letting me know.
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    Refer above pic, The Doctor did the process by parting my hairs and the part areas are completely fucked up. The above pic is representational and guy has full head, if I were to do that style neither will I have thickness nor any hair on the part area.

    Please check the pics and let me know whether I am still NW1.
    People would not have known shit about my hair loss 2 months back but now I can see their gaze.

    With this rate it will be self-explanatory and then they would be thinking wtf thag escalated quickly from nw1 to diffuse mofo.
    Fml.
     
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    bridgeburn Experienced Member My Regimen

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    .5mg
     
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    bridgeburn Experienced Member My Regimen

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    could it be the weather? my body gets itchy at first whenever it turns into winter and the air is getting cold and dry
     
  20. Choi Han Kyul

    Choi Han Kyul Established Member My Regimen

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    Cannot be as forehead and eyebrow itch is also severe. Will have to wait and see what happens.
     

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