@Pigeon Well, what’s the alternative?
Cry&Pray&Masterbate.
@Pigeon Well, what’s the alternative?
@Pigeon Well, what’s the alternative?
Finasteride has a black box warning in some countries... and no one really 'owns' finasteride as far as I'm aware, there's multiple brands of it. Generic and so forth.On a more serious note, I do not refute that people suffer with pills such as finasteride, what I am unable to reconcile is the amount of people taking it versus the amount of occurrences noted.
Sure, from a business standpoint, I would minimize the effects of the pill, but being out for 20+ years (If I am not mistaken), would I continue to risk my business? Again unless I am missing something.
Why even produce something that is possibly going to lead me liable?
Or
Are we men less likely speak up.
Finasteride has a black box warning in some countries... and no one really 'owns' finasteride as far as I'm aware, there's multiple brands of it. Generic and so forth.
I think side effects are likely under reported outside of the internet. No one wants to admit they broke their dick because they wanted to keep their hair. When I got hit with finasteride side effects, I definitely felt shameful about it.
I also think there's a large group of (middle aged and older) people that are prescribed the drug and assume that the side effects are simply due to their age.
That's fair that some think it could be age related.
Regardless of who "owns" or if it is generic, a company still makes it and would be liable no? IF so, why make it if the benefits did not out weigh the risks?
PG protocols and microneedling if you care that much.
Forgive my ignorance, do you mean a regimen involving PGD2 antagonists?
PGD2 Inhibitors, DKK1 inhibitors, PGE2 Promoters, WNT agonists, etc.
Interesting, I’m already using oral caster oil but I imagine that’s pretty small fry compared to other PGE2 promoters. Any sides from any of this stuff?
Topical Cetirizine is probably one of the more popular/affordable ways of inhibiting PGD2 (I believe it also releases PGE2), I assume if it goes systemic, it could give you whatever sides are associated with it, such as drowsiness, nothing nearly as bad as a 5AR inhibitor.
Castor Oil is good for PGE2, however, there is evidence that it lowers testosterone in rats, so I don't personally use it, not orally anyway.
There is a study on it's PGD2 inhibiting properties with pictures of results here: https://sci-hub.se/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28604133/#I see that there’s a study currently being conducted comparing 1% Cetirizine to 5% Minoxidil. Has it really been seen to be as effective as minoxidil at promoting new regrowth?
Ah, I didn’t know that, will keep it in mind.
There is a study on it's PGD2 inhibiting properties with pictures of results here: https://sci-hub.se/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28604133/#
Raising PGE2 in rats: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7741033/
As far as it being comparable to minoxidil, can't say, we'll have to wait for that study. But the pictures in the first study seem to show pretty significant results, imo. Min never did anything for me other than make my face puffy and give heart palpitations.
Wow, promising results indeed, maybe I should give this stuff a try. Have you a similar positive experience with the drug? Yeah I’d really rather not mess with my heart like that, which is why I have steered clear of Minoxidil entirely.
Might as well use bicalutamide then because finasteride is very unlikely to stop all your hairloss if you started before your 20s. Speaking from personal experienceLol this sucks, but I'd still rather get the sides than lose my hair before my twenties lmao. Also, it's the only affordable treatment for young people when you compare it to RU or CB.
Also, for me, the impact of hair loss is basically the same as finasteride's sides.
It sucks that you have to risk these sides to keep your hair, but if it works and is safe enough to be FDA approved, then I'll use it
I thought that bicaliutamide was a prostate cancer treatment lol, did you try dutasteride before moving to bicaliutamide?Might as well use bicalutamide then
Yep. If you started balding thst early you need to suppress more AR signaling than just what comes from DHT. Sad to say but you’re probably fucked, don’t put your hopes into finasteride or dutasteride, they won’t hold you over past 25I thought that bicaliutamide was a prostate cancer treatment lol, did you try dutasteride before moving to bicaliutamide?
Damn that sucks, I guess I'll have to pray that I can keep my hair with meds till 25, and then start looking into hair systems / transplants, because idk how comfortable I am with using HRT drugs to keep my hairYep. If you started balding thst early you need to suppress more AR signaling than just what comes from DHT. Sad to say but you’re probably fucked, don’t put your hopes into finasteride or dutasteride, they won’t hold you over past 25
Also, for me, the impact of hair loss is basically the same as finasteride's sides.