Dr Tsuji And Hairloss Treatment Questions

razzmatazz91

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Their referring to microchips and the 5,000 number they mention.
Those two indicate that their study of reference is the Yokohama one and not Tsuji.
Since you already know about Yokohama.... is it anywhere near clinical trials and commercialisation?

Or the the people at the Discovery Channel saying that 20 years is that “little bit of time” that the scientists need?
 

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Since you already know about Yokohama.... is it anywhere near clinical trials and commercialisation?

Or the the people at the Discovery Channel saying that 20 years is that “little bit of time” that the scientists need?
They are behind Tsuji, I'd say far behind.
A) They used embryonic stem cells, which are a lot easier to amplify.
B) Those stem cells were murine (mice).
10-20 years seems about right for their technology.
(Hopefully I haven't crushed your hopes...)
 

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They are behind Tsuji, I'd say far behind.
A) They used embryonic stem cells, which are a lot easier to amplify.
B) Those stem cells were murine (mice).
10-20 years seems about right for their technology.
(Hopefully I haven't crushed your hopes...)

here are some statements to add from: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-02-baldly-japan-scientists-regrow-hair.html
Date: 2018

While human tests might not be on the cards for another five years, ultimately researchers believe the technique could be used to generate luscious new locks.


New treatment using the technique may be available in 10 years, the professor said.

I Like their idea with the "chip". But i guess fund raising will be very hard in japan after Tsuji is available... So I doubt we ever see this unless they sell ther idea to Tsuji or if Tsuji will fail (which i think and really hope does not happen).
 

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here are some statements to add from: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-02-baldly-japan-scientists-regrow-hair.html
Date: 2018

While human tests might not be on the cards for another five years, ultimately researchers believe the technique could be used to generate luscious new locks.

New treatment using the technique may be available in 10 years, the professor said.

I Like their idea with the "chip". But i guess fund raising will be very hard in japan after Tsuji is available... So I doubt we ever see this unless they sell ther idea to Tsuji or if Tsuji will fail (which i think and really hope does not happen).
Even if they fail at first, it ain't the end.
They can still improve their technology in the years to come.
 

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They are behind Tsuji, I'd say far behind.
A) They used embryonic stem cells, which are a lot easier to amplify.
B) Those stem cells were murine (mice).
10-20 years seems about right for their technology.
(Hopefully I haven't crushed your hopes...)
What are the pros of this compared to tsuji?
 

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What are the pros of this compared to tsuji?
I'm sorry to disappoint you but I am incapable of answering this question, as I haven't read the full article.
Their technology might be more effective in cultivating stem cells (as they succeeded in generating 5,000 germs within days), but that's a speculation based on the little I know about it.
 

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Transplants are functional cures for low norwoods. Tsuji can help higher notwoods.

That is a very big win.

Functional cure?? I used to be able to wear my hair guard #1. A functional cure is one where I don't have to bargain for short hair. Get lost, you're a jackass.
 

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Functional cure?? I used to be able to wear my hair guard #1. A functional cure is one where I don't have to bargain for short hair. Get lost, you're a jackass.
Don’t be so butthurt.

A hair transplant is a functional cure.
Can’t keep short hair? Are you kidding me? A transplant or two can free you from the disease.
It may not satisfy your greed, but it is a FUNCTIONAL cure for most.
 

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here are some statements to add from: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-02-baldly-japan-scientists-regrow-hair.html
Date: 2018

While human tests might not be on the cards for another five years, ultimately researchers believe the technique could be used to generate luscious new locks.

New treatment using the technique may be available in 10 years, the professor said.

I Like their idea with the "chip". But i guess fund raising will be very hard in japan after Tsuji is available... So I doubt we ever see this unless they sell ther idea to Tsuji or if Tsuji will fail (which i think and really hope does not happen).
Well, at least there is backup if Tsuji fails
 

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Don’t be so butthurt.

A hair transplant is a functional cure.
Can’t keep short hair? Are you kidding me? A transplant or two can free you from the disease.
It may not satisfy your greed, but it is a FUNCTIONAL cure for most.

Ok, it's a functional cure for people who like to wear longer hair. Not for me. Must wear hair longer than 2 cm at all times ever since my hair transplant. Yikes!
 

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Would tsuji transplant treatment work after SMP?
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Keiko: Question 5: Several users have scars from previous hair transplants. Both from strip excision and follicular unit extraction on the back of the head. There is also some damage to the skin tissue in the recipient areas towards, the front. One of our most popular questions was whether primordium hairs will be capable of growing through these and other types of scars (such as burn scars), and be capable of healthy growth in such an environment?

Mr. Toyoshima: We appreciate their interests in this and asking this question, and would like to offer our technologies to as many patients with scars as possible. Hair transplant procedures often leave some damage in the skin, forming scar tissues thus significantly deforming the subcutaneous tissues structure, or resulting in loss of the subcutaneous fat layer underneath the skin. However, follicles have a characteristic which enables them to grow through normal hair cycles by interacting with the surrounding tissue. As far as the effectivity on such skin with a serious damage, the effects of our hair follicle germ regeneration technology in such case is yet to be determined, therefore we believe that we still need to conduct significant verification for that purpose. However, it is not that I have only bad news. With our hair regeneration therapy using the hair follicle germ regeneration technology, we can artificially combine cellular tissues to tailor to the specific needs of the patient. Therefore, we believe in principle, that even for a patient with various special clinical requirements such as scars, we will be able provide a hair regeneration therapy for these individuals in the future, which is carefully tailored to such needs.


From: https://www.hairlosstalk.com/news/new-research/hair-primordiums-tsuji-organ-interview-sept2016/

I think no one can tell you more because the team around Tsuji does not know for sure.
 

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Keiko: Question 5: Several users have scars from previous hair transplants. Both from strip excision and follicular unit extraction on the back of the head. There is also some damage to the skin tissue in the recipient areas towards, the front. One of our most popular questions was whether primordium hairs will be capable of growing through these and other types of scars (such as burn scars), and be capable of healthy growth in such an environment?

Mr. Toyoshima: We appreciate their interests in this and asking this question, and would like to offer our technologies to as many patients with scars as possible. Hair transplant procedures often leave some damage in the skin, forming scar tissues thus significantly deforming the subcutaneous tissues structure, or resulting in loss of the subcutaneous fat layer underneath the skin. However, follicles have a characteristic which enables them to grow through normal hair cycles by interacting with the surrounding tissue. As far as the effectivity on such skin with a serious damage, the effects of our hair follicle germ regeneration technology in such case is yet to be determined, therefore we believe that we still need to conduct significant verification for that purpose. However, it is not that I have only bad news. With our hair regeneration therapy using the hair follicle germ regeneration technology, we can artificially combine cellular tissues to tailor to the specific needs of the patient. Therefore, we believe in principle, that even for a patient with various special clinical requirements such as scars, we will be able provide a hair regeneration therapy for these individuals in the future, which is carefully tailored to such needs.


From: https://www.hairlosstalk.com/news/new-research/hair-primordiums-tsuji-organ-interview-sept2016/

I think no one can tell you more because the team around Tsuji does not know for sure.
That sucks because I would get SMP as i would be happy with it for life but tsuji is holding me back .
I want SMP till tsuji comes out but don't want to risk it from stopping or lowering the effectiveness of tsuji treatment

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That sucks because I would get SMP as i would be happy with it for life but tsuji is holding me back .
I want SMP till tsuji comes out but don't want to risk it from stopping or lowering the effectiveness of tsuji follicles.
No
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Scalp Micropigmentation leaves no scarring, so Daniel's comment is irrelevant.
I really can't see why the technology wouldn't be applicable on SMPed scalps, tbh.
Nonetheless, why would you opt for a perm SMP?
 

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Scalp Micropigmentation leaves no scarring, so Daniel's comment is irrelevant.
I really can't see why the technology wouldn't be applicable on SMPed scalps, tbh.
Nonetheless, why would you opt for a perm SMP?
Smp would allow me to move on I'm not in the mood of waiting till 2025 for tsuji to be widely available but it'd be great if I knew I could get SMP till tsuji is released.
 

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It sounds very invasive

For the non-bald areas the most reasonable approach is to inject multiplied disaggregated papilla derma cells taken from the biopsy used for the hair germs

Nope Riken did mentioned it, depilating of the balding areas is the only way for grafting properly and getting rid of the dying remaining follicles

These will be grafts btw, not injection
 

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Nope Riken did mentioned it, depilating of the balding areas is the only way for grafting properly and getting rid of the dying remaining follicles

These will be grafts btw, not injection

I'm thinking more about a scenario where you want thicker hair than you had before you started balding. Since Tsuji confirmed hair follicle thickness manipulation to a certain extent was possible, it would be good to know how he would deal with someone who wanted to have thicker hairs implanted into the scalp. You'd have to get rid of all hairs, even those that aren't DHT-sensitive, otherwise it would look odd.
 

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I'm thinking more about a scenario where you want thicker hair than you had before you started balding. Since Tsuji confirmed hair follicle thickness manipulation to a certain extent was possible, it would be good to know how he would deal with someone who wanted to have thicker hairs implanted into the scalp. You'd have to get rid of all hairs, even those that aren't DHT-sensitive, otherwise it would look odd.
But how?
 

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Smp would allow me to move on I'm not in the mood of waiting till 2025 for tsuji to be widely available but it'd be great if I knew I could get SMP till tsuji is released.
Get trichopigmentation. It is the real SMP and permanent treatment is just a tattoo. Tricho will completely fade out in a year or two.
 

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120 is a decent result but it's what you'd describe as thin hair, think east asian people.

The density on the mouse was 129 hairs/cm², and the stem cells were most probably of a Japanese individual (East Asians sport lower hair densities on average.).

Okay so to put these in perspective for everyone I found some pictures from a wig manufacturer.

"Our factory uses the number of individual hair stands per square centimeter, ranging from 30 hairs per square cm to 150 hairs per square cm. 30 hairs per square cm would be considered an extremely thin, light density and 150 hairs per square cm would be considered an extremely thick, heavy density."

No the intervals are a little bit off, but basically that means that the first wig is 30 hairs per cm squared, while the last wig is 150 hairs per cm squared. The half way point is 90 hairs per cm squared, so should be the medium one, which is what they recommend for young men, although apparently the medium light wig is the most common.

Anyway 129 hairs is basically in the range where the wig supplier say it gets too thick for everyday wear.

The only issue is the supplier hasn't said what type of hair is in the pictures. It probably isn't European hair, and apparently Chinese hair doesn't curl, but apparently Indian hair is quite similar to European hair.

"The texture is very smooth and soft. Genetically, Indian hair is very similar to Caucasian hair in its basic structure."

So yeah, it seems like Tsuji's method is likely adequate enough to give people back their natural density :D

Sources:
https://www.lordhair.com/custom-options/hair-density.html
https://www.lordhair.com/custom-options/hair-type.html
 

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