Just for the record.....quite a few posts above make it look like I and others are talking to ourselves. For whatever reason posts were deleted- quite possibly by the author of the posts himself. I think I know who it was...seems he was afraid of Proctor or some dang thing. He was one of those exposing what was going on at Proctor's Wiki page as well.
Edit: Even the link in my previous post- that thread is gone. If you click on it you can see in the url box it includes "Dr-Proctor-Wikipedia-Found-Falsehood" in the url. Hmmmmm......