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If DHT is useles then why so many guys have erectile dysfunction, problem with erection and libido on it ?
There are multiple hormones affected by finasteride, it's not just DHT.
If DHT is useles then why so many guys have erectile dysfunction, problem with erection and libido on it ?
HGH is a perfect example of a body hormone needed only for puberty, once puberty is done, the body stops naturally producing it.
That is false. Adults have HGH. HGH is produced your entire life as a pulsatile hormone, and it's involved in human metabolism and nutritional digestion. It's responsible for many nutrients entering cells, and when it's elevated it helps the body metabolism white adipose fat and convert it into energy.
The reference range is reference range what to discuss here?
Np.Sorry wrong post
Just a side note, finasteride doesn't target DHT, it targets 5-alpha reductase and thus affects a large number of hormones in the skin, in the blood, in the cerebrospinal fluid, etc. From wikipedia:
To prove the safety of finasteride, you need to show that every single one of those hormones is irrelevant long-term.
- Cholestenone → 5α-Cholestanone
- Progesterone → 5α-Dihydroprogesterone
- 3α-Dihydroprogesterone → Allopregnanolone
- 3β-Dihydroprogesterone → Isopregnanolone
- Deoxycorticosterone → 5α-Dihydrodeoxycorticosterone
- Corticosterone → 5α-Dihydrocorticosterone
- Cortisol → 5α-Dihydrocortisol
- Aldosterone → 5α-Dihydroaldosterone
- Androstenedione → 5α-Androstanedione
- Testosterone → 5α-Dihydrotestosterone
Hint: That's not happening, almost certainly because it's not the case.
Then why do the vast majority of people including myself experience ZERO side effects after the first month long term? Well over 90%. To suggest you need to prove every single one of these processes individually is relevant is ludicrous when it is a plain fact that most do not experience noticeable changes long term due to finasteride. This could be a cross reaction of multiple processes, it could be individual ones, and not everyones body is likely to react in the same way to the drug itself, or changes in these pathways and hormones.
To test each process individually and deduce a claim from that is nonsensical when clearly these can have substantially different effects on different people. The fact that 95% of people on finasteride don't get side effects tells you far more than individual analysis of those individual process alterations on an individual.
Yeah i had ZERO side effects for 10 years, i used to think i was safe too, until they came.For how long are you using this drug ?
Further, a lot of people incorrectly believe that they have no side effects, which is a coping mechanism in part.
We had @RhinestoneHLT post here for a while, he didn't even realize that he had side effects until his wife told him that he had stopped grabbing her ***.
On this forum, a plurality of users report side effects.
Further, in general, most people won't notice a 20% decrease in attention span, willpower, or mood. It will look like standard fluctuations. It's why those things need to be tested.
Further, a lot of people incorrectly believe that they have no side effects, which is a coping mechanism in part.
We had @RhinestoneHLT post here for a while, he didn't even realize that he had side effects until his wife told him that he had stopped grabbing her ***.
On this forum, a plurality of users report side effects.
Further, in general, most people won't notice a 20% decrease in attention span, willpower, or mood. It will look like standard fluctuations. It's why those things need to be tested.
Yeah i had ZERO side effects for 10 years, i used to think i was safe too, until they came.For how long are you using this drug ?
1 year. What side effects and how severe? 10 years on the drug would be more than enough for me. If I started to experience them I'd likely ween off it.
I'm so f*****g tired actually, i got my 7-8 hours of sleep per day, no serious advents in my life, everything is pretty regular, but lack of energy and tiredness + slight ED, my regular bloodwork are perfect, i'll see an endocrin next week.I'm not saying this is 100% finasteride, but i really don't see what else can do this, i'll be fixed in two weeks
Problem is, i can't ween off it, i'll loose all my 10 years saved hair
How old are you?
31 and no i don't think i suffer from chronic fatigue, i see where you going to
Chronic fatigue can come from 3 major causes anyway
Guess what can cause finasteride on a long term use, i bet 50 bucks on it
- Viral infections. Because some people develop chronic fatigue syndrome after having a viral infection, researchers question whether some viruses might trigger the disorder. Suspicious viruses include Epstein-Barr virus, human herpes virus 6 and mouse leukemia viruses. No conclusive link has yet been found.
- Immune system problems. The immune systems of people who have chronic fatigue syndrome appear to be impaired slightly, but it's unclear if this impairment is enough to actually cause the disorder
- Hormonal imbalances. People who have chronic fatigue syndrome also sometimes experience abnormal blood levels of hormones produced in the hypothalamus, pituitary glands or adrenal glands. But the significance of these abnormalities is still unknown.
The fact is, i really hope this is not finasteride, because i would likely have to stop it