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DHT doesn't effect muscle?

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  1. Thespain

    Thespain Established Member

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    I've been browsing a lot of bodybuilding and steroid forums lately, and the consensus over there is that DHT is basically useless for building muscle, and that in the bodybuilding world, all that DHT based compounds such as proviron and andactrim are good for is hardening up i.e losing fat. Is this true?
     
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    Afro_Vacancy Senior Member My Regimen

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    Why don't you check their arguments and verify them, maybe post them here so we can try and evaluate?
     
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    Swoop Senior Member My Regimen

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    DHT doesn't function a big role in muscle hypertrophy. 3a-HSD is abundant in muscle tissue and this metabolizes DHT to a very weak androgen.
     
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    DHT has been said to play a role in strength, and having hardening factors associated with the muscle. I do believe that the hardening presence within the muscle is a myth, and is the result of shedding excess body weight, and water retention that causes the muscle to feel firm.
     
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    Dench57 Senior Member My Regimen

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    Plays a role in muscle hardness and weight loss. I used Andractim (DHT gel) very briefly and noticed ridiculous definition after a gym session. Spose DHT is good for muscle aesthetics. Test is your boy for actual muscle gains.
     
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    Does creatine have any effect on muscle? I hear split answers on this
     
  7. The Gardener

    The Gardener Senior Member

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    Hairloss in men, believe it or not, is one of the final stages in men of puberty.

    That's right... the same hormones and chemicals that give you your pube and chest hair are the SAME hormones that trigger your hair loss later in life.

    That being said, any supplement that you hear reviewers saying that "young people should not take because it could disrupt puberty-related development" is a supplement that you should not take in THIS stage of life, as it could affect male pattern baldness hairloss on the tail end of puberty.
     
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    shookwun Senior Member

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    Embrace your DHT.
     
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    LocoRoco Established Member My Regimen

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    #fukdht
     
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    Such an awful hormone. Fuck it!

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    LocoRoco Established Member My Regimen

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    dutasteride increases Test (wat do ya think happens to the inhibited enzyme that converts T to DHT(off) so u retain more T in system )= more muscle mass
     
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    stachu Experienced Member My Regimen

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    Yeah haha, fuck dht lol.
     
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    JeanLucBB Senior Member My Regimen

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    Only people who haven't gone through puberty need DHT
     
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    Useless hormone post puberty ? Yeah nature pretty much works that way, a lot of useless things in the body, look at HGH
     
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    Afro_Vacancy Senior Member My Regimen

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    Just a side note, finasteride doesn't target DHT, it targets 5-alpha reductase and thus affects a large number of hormones in the skin, in the blood, in the cerebrospinal fluid, etc. From wikipedia:
    To prove the safety of finasteride, you need to show that every single one of those hormones is irrelevant long-term.

    Hint: That's not happening, almost certainly because it's not the case.
     
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    Afro_Vacancy Senior Member My Regimen

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    Why did you use a DHT gel?
     
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    Afro_Vacancy Senior Member My Regimen

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    It almost certainly means that scientists have simply not discovered the use yet.

    Do you know about junk DNA? It's called junk DNA because back in the 1990s scientists had not yet discovered the use. Because of that, they assumed that it had no use, and thus it was junk.
     
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  18. BaldyBalderBald

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    Yep that was my point, saying that a body hormone is useless...i've heard enough
     
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    Cool, isn't it?
     
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    michel sapin Senior Member My Regimen

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    it is not that easy
    me too i used to believe that dht is a trash hormone and i dind't needed it
    however it play a crucila role to keep oestrogen at bay
    in a low DHT environment you can get gyno quite easily .
     
  21. BaldyBalderBald

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    I agree being bald is counter nature, hair have a purpose, especially on the head, and nature can have glitches, but body producing an hormone the entire life as also a purpose, HGH is a perfect example of a body hormone needed only for puberty, once puberty is done, the body stops naturally producing it.DHT role's in body has not yet been fully identified.
    An example is that androgens are needed for lacrimal glands regulation.Aging males with low androgens are prone to develop dry eye syndrome resulting of irreversible lacrimal glands damages due to low androgens (DHT especially, and btw dry eye syndrome is mentionned in finasteride adverse effects)

    It's just the term 'useless' that bothers me here, we have androgen receptors in many body organs
     

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