No no no it's still like 1800 for sonicated prp. The 500 is for the new not talked about thing Cole is doing that's follicular stem cell treatment. I guess it's same idea with prp but the stem cells come from your donor follicles, not blood
No no no it's still like 1800 for sonicated prp. The 500 is for the new not talked about thing Cole is doing that's follicular stem cell treatment. I guess it's same idea with prp but the stem cells come from your donor follicles, not blood
https://www.haircycle.com/hair-loss-products/wnt-act
@David_MPN what do you think of the ingredients?
I think the name "WNT" is the title as a reference to Samumed, which is developing a drug that actually makes use of the WNT pathway. However I don't see how any of their ingredients relate to WNT.
Now as for the ingredients, this is a list of ingredients alleged to help with hair loss:
Water (Aqua), Propylene Glycol, Trehalose, , Panthenol, PEG-40 Hydrogenated Castor Oil, Methyl vanillate, Wheat Amino Acids, Soy Amino Acids, Arginine HCL, Serine, Threonine, Niacinamide, Faex Extract, Horse Chestnut (Aesculus Hippocastanum) Extract, Ammonium Glycyrrhizate, Zinc Gluconate, Caffeine, Biotin, Manganese PCA, Disodium EDTA, Sodium Hydroxymethylglycinate, Lactic Acid, Fragrance (Perfume)
I recognize castor oil, soy, Niacinamide, zinc, caffeine, biotin, from hair loss discussions. Maybe the other ingredients matter too.
[Google suggests that Nicotinamide = Niacinamide, I can't tell if that's true.]
Niacinamide is in the news because a company (Elysium Health) is developing it as a luxury anti-ageing supplement. Their pill also contains pterostilbene, which supposedly does everything better than resveratrol, the molecule that people think gives red wine its benefits:
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/534636/the-anti-aging-pill/
They don't give the percentages of these ingredients, so who knows if there is any effect at all. They claim to up-regulate the WNT pathway, but I see no evidence that they do -- perhaps it's elsewhere on the website.
By the way most knowledgeable people on this forum are Swoop and Armando Jose. I'm glad to answer your questions, but they are likely to give you more informed answers.
Thanks David
Yeah I am just interested but not actually purchasing anything but i would love to get @Swoop and @Armando Jose thoughts on it since a plastic surgeon (Dr Cole, apparently) seems to have either developed it or is recommending it in his office (can see above posts from 2 of Dr Cole patients)
I'm just curious if his office is 'misleading' patients OR if there is 'some' credible science behind the listed ingredients regarding WNT-- or if this is a deliberate play on words. I think his patients should be aware if so.
https://www.haircycle.com/hair-loss-products/wnt-act
hairblues what are your thoughts on prp so far then?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27121450I think the name "WNT" is the title as a reference to Samumed, which is developing a drug that actually makes use of the WNT pathway. However I don't see how any of their ingredients relate to WNT.
Now as for the ingredients, this is a list of ingredients alleged to help with hair loss:
Water (Aqua), Propylene Glycol, Trehalose, , Panthenol, PEG-40 Hydrogenated Castor Oil, Methyl vanillate, Wheat Amino Acids, Soy Amino Acids, Arginine HCL, Serine, Threonine, Niacinamide, Faex Extract, Horse Chestnut (Aesculus Hippocastanum) Extract, Ammonium Glycyrrhizate, Zinc Gluconate, Caffeine, Biotin, Manganese PCA, Disodium EDTA, Sodium Hydroxymethylglycinate, Lactic Acid, Fragrance (Perfume)
I recognize castor oil, soy, Niacinamide, zinc, caffeine, biotin, from hair loss discussions. Maybe the other ingredients matter too.
[Google suggests that Nicotinamide = Niacinamide, I can't tell if that's true.]
Niacinamide is in the news because a company (Elysium Health) is developing it as a luxury anti-ageing supplement. Their pill also contains pterostilbene, which supposedly does everything better than resveratrol, the molecule that people think gives red wine its benefits:
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/534636/the-anti-aging-pill/
They don't give the percentages of these ingredients, so who knows if there is any effect at all. They claim to up-regulate the WNT pathway, but I see no evidence that they do -- perhaps it's elsewhere on the website.
By the way most knowledgeable people on this forum are Swoop and Armando Jose. I'm glad to answer your questions, but they are likely to give you more informed answers.
Topical application of the Wnt/β-catenin activator methyl vanillate increases hair count and hair mass index in women with androgenetic alopecia...
32% increase in WNT10B mRNA expression levels in the temporal scalp area
I think the name "WNT" is the title as a reference to Samumed, which is developing a drug that actually makes use of the WNT pathway. However I don't see how any of their ingredients relate to WNT.
Now as for the ingredients, this is a list of ingredients alleged to help with hair loss:
Water (Aqua), Propylene Glycol, Trehalose, , Panthenol, PEG-40 Hydrogenated Castor Oil, Methyl vanillate, Wheat Amino Acids, Soy Amino Acids, Arginine HCL, Serine, Threonine, Niacinamide, Faex Extract, Horse Chestnut (Aesculus Hippocastanum) Extract, Ammonium Glycyrrhizate, Zinc Gluconate, Caffeine, Biotin, Manganese PCA, Disodium EDTA, Sodium Hydroxymethylglycinate, Lactic Acid, Fragrance (Perfume)
I recognize castor oil, soy, Niacinamide, zinc, caffeine, biotin, from hair loss discussions. Maybe the other ingredients matter too.
[Google suggests that Nicotinamide = Niacinamide, I can't tell if that's true.]
Niacinamide is in the news because a company (Elysium Health) is developing it as a luxury anti-ageing supplement. Their pill also contains pterostilbene, which supposedly does everything better than resveratrol, the molecule that people think gives red wine its benefits:
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/534636/the-anti-aging-pill/
They don't give the percentages of these ingredients, so who knows if there is any effect at all. They claim to up-regulate the WNT pathway, but I see no evidence that they do -- perhaps it's elsewhere on the website.
By the way most knowledgeable people on this forum are Swoop and Armando Jose. I'm glad to answer your questions, but they are likely to give you more informed answers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotinamide said:While nicotinic acid (niacin) may be used for this purpose, nicotinamide has the benefit of not causing skin flushing.[4] As a cream, it is used to treat acne.[5]
I would have done it, if it had a more reasonable price. say 1000. then i would have multiple injections in a year. I think it works but one set of injections isn't enough. I generally am a big believer in growth factors. one application of growth factors wont be enough though to counteract constant DHT effect, several maybe. just like minoxidil, it has to be done several times. kerastem shows promise with fat stem cells but then the price is so crazy. I read it is at 10000 for one set and the growth isnt even worth that much.