24M, significant diffuse thinning and receding hairline - is this salvageable?

[losingbattle88]

It’s possible that you possess high levels of the enzyme that converts minoxidil to its active form in your scalp, thus making oral less efficient for you, maybe. Yes, if it ain’t broke don’t break it.

If it aint broke dont fix it.

 

[losingbattle88]

Im 3.5 months in still but yeah, my hair is definetely improving already. My surgeon claims dutasteride is much more effective than finasteride for the midscalp/crown. I don't see any scientific evidence about that claim but he had like >1000 patients already and is saying it based on experience and seeing many cases.

Dutasteride is garbage. After 1.5 years on it My hair was alot thinner. Thinning has slowed down alot after quitting it and being on finasteride instead. Dutasteride raise T too much.

 

[Mr. Slap Head]

Dutasteride is garbage. After 1.5 years on it My hair was alot thinner. Thinning has slowed down alot after quitting it and being on finasteride instead. Dutasteride raise T too much.

He might be very DHT sensitive though

 

[losingbattle88]

He might be very DHT sensitive though

Ye i felt like i was on steroids on dutasteride, I became unusuall strong. Damn T boost. I already had low T and dutasteride raise T more in People with low T than high T.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Dutasteride is garbage. After 1.5 years on it My hair was alot thinner. Thinning has slowed down alot after quitting it and being on finasteride instead. Dutasteride raise T too much.

You are the exception, check every trial and meta analysis comparing every Finasteride dosage vs Dutasteride dosage, dutasteride always comes up in hair count by far in every single trial.

You are a <1% case situation that maybe is more sensitive to T than usual

You can always use dutasteride + RU/pyri or any topical AR silencer to avoid the extra T exposure tho

 

[losingbattle88]

You are the exception, check every trial and meta analysis comparing every Finasteride dosage vs Dutasteride dosage, dutasteride always comes up in hair count by far in every single trial.

You are a <1% case situation that maybe is more sensitive to T than usual

You can always use RU/pyri or any topical AR silencer to avoid the extra T exposure tho

Wont touch Ru with a ten foot pole again. Im doing OK for now thank u very much.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Keep coping and downvoting me based on your 1-man sample about your dutasteride experience lol

Results of a randomized placebo-controlled study of dutasteride versus finasteride​

(https://www.jaad.org/article/S0190-9622(06)01287-4/fulltext)

even 0.1mg dutasteride has better results than 1mg finasteride

 

[losingbattle88]

You are the exception, check every trial and meta analysis comparing every Finasteride dosage vs Dutasteride dosage, dutasteride always comes up in hair count by far in every single trial.

You are a <1% case situation that maybe is more sensitive to T than usual

You can always use dutasteride + RU/pyri or any topical AR silencer to avoid the extra T exposure tho

i felt like i was on steroids on dutasteride, I became unusuall strong. Damn T boost. I already had low T and dutasteride raise T more in People with low T than high T

 

[losingbattle88]

Keep coping and downvoting me based on your 1-man sample about your dutasteride experience lol

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Dude Theres so many other cases like me on the net lol. You just havent looked but I have.

 

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You are the exception, check every trial and meta analysis comparing every Finasteride dosage vs Dutasteride dosage, dutasteride always comes up in hair count by far in every single trial.

You are a <1% case situation that maybe is more sensitive to T than usual

You can always use dutasteride + RU/pyri or any topical AR silencer to avoid the extra T exposure tho

He is not the exception.I ve been on finasteride. for the last 14 months,but just for the hell of it i ve tried duta back in May for just 2 weeks.It gave me that horrible itch(excruciating itch) that took 2 weeks to go away.Duta is dangerous.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

I am not saying you are lieing, I dont understand what part about you are a minority and the exception you didn't understand yet. Its annoying you keep fearmongering other people that is interested in improving their hair loss based on your only experience disregarding all science whatsoever lol

I have consulted with several trichologists and surgeons who have in-clinic experience with thousand of patients and all of them agree dutasteride is the strongest treatment in most situations with most empirical results. I would rather trust science and doctors with real experience case than random paranoid people in the internet, just making sure no1 is nocebo'd by you

 

[Mr. Slap Head]

He is not the exception.I ve been on finasteride. for the last 14 months,but just for the hell of it i ve tried duta back in May for just 2 weeks.It gave me that horrible itch(excruciating itch) that took 2 weeks to go away.Duta is dangerous.

Same

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

He is not the exception.I ve been on finasteride. for the last 14 months,but just for the hell of it i ve tried duta back in May for just 2 weeks.It gave me that horrible itch(excruciating itch) that took 2 weeks to go away.Duta is dangerous.

lmao you tried it for 2 weeks and quit because your itch increased... dutasteride half life is extremely long, it takes weeks to accumulate in the follicles so if you quit finasteride cold turkey into dutasteride theres a period that you will have increased DHT until it accumulates enough. I also had sides for a few weeks while switching which subsided

 

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I am not saying you are lieing, I dont understand what part about you are a minority and the exception you didn't understand yet. Its annoying you keep fearmongering other people that is interested in improving their hair loss based on your only experience disregarding all science whatsoever lol

I have consulted with several trichologists and surgeons who have in-clinic experience with thousand of patients and all of them agree dutasteride is the strongest treatment in most situations with most empirical results. I would rather trust science and doctors with real experience case than random paranoid people in the internet, just making sure no1 is nocebo'd by you

Are you having a bad day dude?Hold your horses,it was just a statement based on my own.experience.

 

[Mr. Slap Head]

lmao you tried it for 2 weeks and quit because your itch increased... dutasteride half life is extremely long, it takes weeks to accumulate in the follicles so if you quit finasteride cold turkey into dutasteride theres a period that you will have increased DHT until it accumulates enough. I also had sides for a few weeks while switching which subsided

I was on it 6 months. It’s not for everyone dude

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Are you having a bad day dude?Hold your horses,it was just a statement based on my own.experience.

was answering to the other guy in that one, not you

not a bad day, but this PFS-like anti dutasteride propaganda triggered me esp. when someone is worried about improving and people is fearmongering him out of it when the chances it works worse than finasteride are sub 1%. In any case the sides are reversible after stopping, so literally no reason to not try upgrading.

 

[losingbattle88]

lmao you tried it for 2 weeks and quit because your itch increased... dutasteride half life is extremely long, it takes weeks to accumulate in the follicles so if you quit finasteride cold turkey into dutasteride theres a period that you will have increased DHT until it accumulates enough. I also had sides for a few weeks while switching which subsided

An old timer here called TIMI maintained on finasteride for 14 years and switched to dutasteride and was on it for a year. His hair went to sh*t real Quick.

 

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was answering to the other guy in that one, not you

not a bad day, but this PFS-like anti dutasteride propaganda triggered me esp. when someone is worried about improving and people is fearmongering him out of it when the chances it works worse than finasteride are sub 1%

was answering to the other guy in that one, not you

not a bad day, but this PFS-like anti dutasteride propaganda triggered me esp. when someone is worried about improving and people is fearmongering him out of it when the chances it works worse than finasteride are sub 1%. In any case the sides are reversible after stopping, so literally no reason to not try upgrading.

You trust the science,i do too,but i also pay attention to real world experiences of members on here.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

ok so why literally not a single study reflect that? you trying to say unproven internet anecdotes is more reliable than the trials published and what doctors claim it does to their patients?

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

I think all this debate has to do more about Testosterone impact on balding than dutasteride vs finasteride... the science is very inconclusive in this regard, some say the impact is none or negligible while others say it is impactful enough. We know dutasteride raises more T than finasteride, so that's the most logical outcome. Most likely the majority of population is waaay more sensitive to DHT than T but in these cases its similar or even flipped.