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Jesus I gotta get off of here. How some of you could say this guy is losing is hair is more than a little bit scary
Would You Call This A Significant Change?
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That's because most people in this forum have no clue what they are talking about. They have apparently never heard of "baby hairs" or "Maturing Hairlines" before, which is kind of sad. This guy is either over-examining his hair, or his hairline is starting to mature.
Yeah I agree that I'm over-examining it, but it's hard not to think about once you notice it especially this young. I have definitely noticed some hairloss (though it could be a maturing hairline as you said), as is evident from the photos.
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Oh Bro, trust me, I do the same thing, and I am almost 21. After I discovered some thinning along my Hairline ( about 1cm), I started to go nuts. I would examine my hairline no less than 12 times a day for 13 months, I talked myself into thinking that I am going bald, pull my own hair constantly and after about 8-13 pulls, when a single strand would finally come out, I would freak the hell out. Then, I would drive myself nuts and be depressed over it for days at a time. But After about over a year of seeing no further recession or any thinning, I am starting to realize that I wasted over a year of my life freaking and worrying about something for no reason. I could have used it to enjoy my hair and style it about a billion different ways while I have it. Please, don't make the same mistake I made. If you're worried or want a piece of mind, do not waste your time here asking people who do not have the slightest clue what they are talking about. Get up, and make an appointment with your Dermatologist. Then, put this case to rest for once and for all. Hope this helped
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I still do this. All my hair grew back perfectly, but I still check my hairline and crown every single day. I even developed a nervous tic where I play with my hair pretty aggressively. At its worst it's a 24/7 thing. Doesn't matter how many times I check or how many pictures I take. You can easily drive yourself insane thinking about this.
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Bro, it sucks doesn't it? On top of that, the sad thing is that once you develop this obsession, I feel like you cannot kick the habit. I think it's because you feel like balding is almost inevitable, and since you have experiences a bit of recession from your hairline maturing, You are in the constant fear of "What if it recedes more, or thins?? Is my hair thinning now? Ok maybe not now, Well how about now?" I would much rather know for certain that I'm going bald and dealing with it rather than being paranoid about it 24/7. I feel like a maturing hairline is worst than going bald simply because you can not always be certain that it's just matured; you are always worried that it "might be receding"... Fml.
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For me it's because I have underlying anxiety. Uncertainty in general is something I have a hard time with. I'd certainly hate actual balding a lot more than the paranoia though. There's a certain amount of depression there that I'm not sure I could take. Not in my 20's anyway. That's when you're supposed to be young and handsome. I think anyone who has suffered from premature or early balding would agree.
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if THAT is considered a shitty hair line, then give me a moment while I go swallow my gun.
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I see slight hair loss in the corners, very slight, but it is there. I would say use preventive treatments, finasteride/minoxidil/keto shampoo. It's time for people to stop advising to "wait until it gets worse". Our current treatments are to prevent further damage. Only lucky people see regrowth. If you are one of the lucky one's, better to see that luck now and get your NW0 hairline back rather than be NW3 fighting back to get to NW1.
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Dermatologists don't know anything about hair loss. That's a waste of time. If you're going to visit one, make sure it's a hair loss specialist. Do not go a to a general dermatologist. They are absolutely clueless and it's a shame. You are clearly receding but the derm won't know this because you are not showing him your before pics like you did to us. The derm will see a "low" hairline with no reference point of where the corners and hairline used to be so to him/her you're not suffering from hair loss.
It's a complete waste of time to get your advice from a dermatologist. I'm sorry, they help in other areas related to skin, but they're very weak in the male pattern baldness department. Either visit a legit hair loss doctor or get your info from this website, do not listen to anyone telling you to "go see a doctor". They are clueless about male pattern hairloss. I learned this the hard way.
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That's weird because Puerto Ricans go bald very often from what i've seen, they are descendants from Spaniards so they have that Caucasian trait that makes them go bald, PR is mostly "white" people, I think about 70%. Mexicans and South Americans are a different story.
Since they look more "native", I imagine they have more native traits, including low hairlines, and rare recession/balding. Mexicans are in large part "Mestizo", so are Guatemalans, Peruvians, Paraguay, and most other SA countries. I am from Central America and I can tell you we go bald (I post here because of that lol) and I can tell you I don't know any man in my extended family who isn't bald or getting there, and I have a big family. But some CA countries that are made up of mostly Mestizo race, like Panama and Nicaragua also share those common hairlines you speak of. Mexicans and South Americans are those lucky Hispanics you speak of, and some Central American countries. I'm not saying what you're saying is false about the Puerto Ricans from where you live, i'm saying Puerto Ricans definitely go bald, they are mostly white and some part black. I know me personally, I have Spaniard ancestors, and there you go, i'm balding.
Here is what I think: The closer you are to being Mestizo/native with no white in you, the further you will be from male pattern baldness. The closer you are to being European white, or having European ancestors (including black people) the more likely you are going to suffer from male pattern baldness.
Here is the world factbook where you can see which countries are mostly mestizo in race:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2075.html
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I would have to completely disagree with your statement. As a person who comes from a long line of physicians and has a few Dermatologists in his family, I know quite a bit about hairloss. Here are a few things you should take note of:
1) Being a hair loss specialist or Hair transplant surgeon requires nothing more than an "M.D" next to your name. In other words, These physicians who call themselves hairloss doctors most likely only went to medical school with no Residency, because It is not required. This means that they received absolutely no training in the field, and are not Board Certified, because that is also not required, nor does it exist.
]2) Dermatologists, on the other hand, have received years and years of extensive training and examination (AKA Residency) after they graduated from medical school . They are trained to know every bit of every disease, conditions, and treatments that are even slightly related to the skin, in and out. They are required to spend 4-6 years of training alongside the top physicians to examine, diagnose, and treat all skin disease, especially hairloss, before they even qualify to take the Board Certification exam. And since Dermatology is The #1 most competitive specialty to get into (Yes, even more than Plastics and Neurosurgery) these doctors were most likely in the top of their class, which means they are amongst the most intelligent.
3) Since hair is one of the main components of the skin, Dermatologists are trained and required to know everything about it, in much more depth than they learned in medical school. From the Hair's A&P to the Hormones and organs that control and and are associated with it, they know it all. As a result, dermatologists treat ALL forms of hair loss, not just the most common form: androgenic alopecia ( AKA Male Pattern Baldness). They are also the only ones experienced enough and trained to rule out other medical conditions that may trigger hair thinning or recession, such as hormone imbalances or environmental factors. They have seen it all, treated it all, and are Board-Certified for it. You don't get any of these expertise and reassurances with a Hairloss doctor. You just Don't. Now, there are some Derms that specialize in hair-loss, but there is not alot of them since there is no training required, and they merely only have to label themselves as a "hair-loss Specialist" simply because there is just no regulation or Certification for it.
4) Anyone Doctor can also do hair transplants, But the only good/reputable ones are the Plastic Surgeons or Dermatologists that specialize in it. That, or if the transplant doctor has been doing it for many years and has a great reputation.
Not trying to sound mean, but please do adequate research on this matter before posting misleading and nonsense information/advice like the one you just posted on this thread. Thanks
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I would have to completely disagree with your statement. As a person who comes from a long line of physicians and has a few Dermatologists in his family, I know quite a bit about hairloss. Here are a few things you should take note of:
1) Being a hair loss specialist or Hair transplant surgeon requires nothing more than an "M.D" next to your name. In other words, These physicians who call themselves hairloss doctors most likely only went to medical school with no Residency, because It is not required. This means that they received absolutely no training in the field, and are not Board Certified, because that is also not required, nor does it exist.
]2) Dermatologists, on the other hand, have received years and years of extensive training and examination (AKA Residency) after they graduated from medical school . They are trained to know every bit of every disease, conditions, and treatments that are even slightly related to the skin, in and out. They are required to spend 4-6 years of training alongside the top physicians to examine, diagnose, and treat all skin disease, especially hairloss, before they even qualify to take the Board Certification exam. And since Dermatology is The #1 most competitive specialty to get into (Yes, even more than Plastics and Neurosurgery) these doctors were most likely in the top of their class, which means they are amongst the most intelligent.
3) Since hair is one of the main components of the skin, Dermatologists are trained and required to know everything about it, in much more depth than they learned in medical school. From the Hair's A&P to the Hormones and organs that control and and are associated with it, they know it all. As a result, dermatologists treat ALL forms of hair loss, not just the most common form: androgenic alopecia ( AKA Male Pattern Baldness). They are also the only ones experienced enough and trained to rule out other medical conditions that may trigger hair thinning or recession, such as hormone imbalances or environmental factors. They have seen it all, treated it all, and are Board-Certified for it. You don't get any of these expertise and reassurances with a Hairloss doctor. You just Don't. Now, there are some Derms that specialize in hair-loss, but there is not alot of them since there is no training required, and they merely only have to label themselves as a "hair-loss Specialist" simply because there is just no regulation or Certification for it.
4) Anyone Doctor can also do hair transplants, But the only good/reputable ones are the Plastic Surgeons or Dermatologists that specialize in it. That, or if the transplant doctor has been doing it for many years and has a great reputation.
Not trying to sound mean, but please do adequate research on this matter before posting misleading and nonsense information/advice like the one you just posted on this thread. Thanks
What I said wasn't nonsense, it's true. Of course you're going to be biased towards them coming from a "long line of physicians and dermatologists". The truth is when it comes to male pattern baldness, doctors are a joke unless they specialize in hair loss. This is my experience and I have visited some of the best and most reputable dermatologists in NY, before figuring out that I actually need to visit a hair loss specialist.
My post wasn't misleading in any way, shape or form. It would be agreed upon by anyone who posts here and has half a brain. Your post is more misleading than mine. The best advice you can give someone is to visit an actual hair loss doctor, how is this misleading? The one doing the misleading is yourself.
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How do you call yourself a dermatologist and only know finaseride and minoxidil as Propecia and Rogaine?
My first ever visit to the dermatologist for hair loss, I was told to buy a shampoo (not keto). That's pretty laughable and indefensible unless you're biased.
My first ever visit to the dermatologist for hair loss, I was told to buy a shampoo (not keto). That's pretty laughable and indefensible unless you're biased.
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Your post is misleading because Hair-loss specialist that are not dermatologists have absolutely no training in hair loss. Most of them Literally come straight out of medical school and go through little to no residency, so they gain no experience or further knowledge in hair loss or any sort of skin-related disease other than the basic knowledge they acquired in medical school. For example, who would you trust to operate on your brain? Someone who is straight out of medical school and has never even held a scalpel before, or someone who trained among the best Board-certified Neurosurgeons for 8 years after medical school and has done the operation multiple times? It's a no-brainer. THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT TO BECOME A HAIR-SPECIALIST OTHER THAN HAVING A MEDICAL DEGREE. BUT THERE IS A LONG, LONG LIST OF EXPERIENCE AND INTENSE TRAINING REQUIREMENTS REGARDING THE THE SKIN AND HAIR THAT TAKES MANY YEARS TO FULFILL IN ORDER TO BECOME A DERMATOLOGIST. So your claim doesn't make any logical or factual sense.
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I've learned more about male pattern baldness on my first week in this forum than I ever had from all doctors combined.
To get info comparable what i've learned here I had to visit a hair loss specialist, who pretty told me everything i've already read on here.
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I call it "BDD" and "GTFO"