Will These 'beta Uprisings' Continue? Worried About The Future.. Thoughts?

meetjoeblack

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I'll cut my mini rant short as I could honestly go on much longer about the way kids are raised nowadays & how society and government institutions aren't setting up the youth of today for success, but the bottom line was, is and will always be the quality of the child's parents.

I completely agree but, if the family is a mess dysfunctional, and the father is absent, this stuff is more common. I notice the declining make academics source Jordan Peterson and Helen Smith. The fact being, if this was a woman problem, it was regulated and fixed. Mgtow, pua, incel, mra, etc seemingly are different sides of the same coin.

It's the Peter Pan story all over again. These are the lost boys. Never never land. Why grow up? Be like captain hook. A tyrant with a hook for a hand. The sacrifice of childhood for what? If a woman divorces, she gets resources, and automatically gifted custody. A single mom is promoted. The father is declared a dead beat. The society is attacking of men deeming toxic masculinity. There's a decline in the manufacturing industry. Less college make grads. There's a society celebrating women sleeping around and you can't judge. Anti sl*t shame and BTW, you cannot fat shame. And yet, we beta make shame men.

There's a problem. A subset of men are losing it. They are the lost boys from Pan incarnated. They are unable to compete in the dominance hierarchy. They cannot pull. They don't date. They are miserable and even believing they are toxic masculinity.

Make no mistake, they are not oriented right but, they are snubbed by women and society. They are the ones last picked to play only they aren't selected at all. They cannot use hookers or escorts for the risk of imprisonment. From a Darwin perspective, they are removed from the gene pool. The mgtow guys either go monk or casual date deeming marriage as too big a liability.

It's a strange time we live in. After listening to a recent podcast, the data is mostly men who lash out in violence whereas, women tend to use reputation decimation as a go m of aggression. Jhion ghmeshi court case comes to mind.

Imagine, you're one of these guys. You find the courage to approach and not only you are rejected, you are shamed in public. Obv, murder is not the solution. There's a expectancy of male ownership and responsibility that is not reciprocated alternatively despite the breach in gender roles. A link about divorce and house hold choirs was pretty telling. Search divorce and household choirs. Despite gender fluidity push in western society, the source goes onto show a contradiction and even divorce following this path.


I don't know what the solution is. I have had a fair share of weird dates and exs. I dare say crazies. Screaming misogyny isn't an argument. Maybe a society stoning masculinity is not the answer. Maybe we need to do like MJ and start with the man in the mirror.
 

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Guys this isn't a joke but i'm f*****g angry
I have stopped seeing prostitutes as per the advice of my psychologist.
However, i've tried tinder and keep getting rejected.
i'm so angry sick of being rejected. i workout, eat well, take care ofmyself just because i'm 5'7 and bald i cant even get 5/10s to at least go on one date.
f*****g bullshit f*** this sh*t i'm f*****g done
f*** everthying f*** it
Bumble is a better alternative.
A large emphasis on looks is placed in certain forums online, not all. I've been a member on a few and read others over the years - can safely say zero mentions except a bit of joking now and then. Most people do their thing looks wise and live their life. Of course this is a hair forum and impact which is very image concerned, it's not a reflection on real life though lets not kid ourselves. Certainly there would be no micro dissection of someone's neck aesthetics in the real world in a situation where a killer is mentioned or on other normal forums - that thought would not go through someone's mind let alone expressing it. I think we can agree that it is looks obsessed which can happen in certain circumstances for certain people. I agree with @Susanoo

Anyway looks are usually never the problem in high profile cases like this. It might be a background factor but as you wrote, it's usually mental dysfunction. Autism translates to poor social skills but that doesn't make them all lunatics. It's complex and they are insane at least at some level. Bullying mainly is an Anglosphere school thing, I heard around in Europe it's no where near as bad. Like you have to be seriously weird or deficient in some way to be bullied in school.

The 1999 infamous massacre at columbine high school I think was the trigger of modern day school shootings over there. One of the guys was handsome.

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True but, so was Elliot Roger's. No star but, if not a psycho, he could date but, he is crazy. He is not oriented right.

I think the problem is synergistic. I think we can agree, there's a problem with these men, and arguably a lot of men. What about divorce? Custody? The fact that women initiate eighty percent of divorce? Women can decimate your reputation and life with a false accusation. You no longer have innocent until proven guilty. You are judged by the SJWs, social media, and shamed into oblivion. There's no recourse in false accusations and lives are ruined.

If a woman's initiating violence, a man cannot use force or even restrain without legal ramifications. False or other. If she decimates your name like Jion ghmeshi, you have career ruined, life trashed, and you do.... What? It's terrifying.

It's no dispute here that these guys are psycho. They are. No questions asked. I am asking, what is the best way to handle this situation and better things?

I am beta. I have been punished most of my dating life for it. As I matured, I developed a backbone, and spine. One of the things I have become aware of is the language police and pc culture. If a woman is a sl*t, the attempt to change words and deem it as liberated is a foolish attempt to mitigate declining sexual market value.

The royal wedding is hard to fathom. Royalty marries woman pushing forty. A divorcee, a woman from. A single mom household, who even her own father wouldn't walk her down the Ile.

Can you imagine men in the fifties marrying someone nearing or entering early stages of metapause?

There's a mess in masculinity these days but what the feminine has evolved into is not pretty either. Screaming misogyny is not an argument.
 

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Yes I don't find the standard blonde that attractive anymore either.
African/European.... an exotic blend there.
What do you think of Mediterranean looking hotties?

Brunettes ftw

That is all
 

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Whilst I will say that this whole "feeling beta" you mention contributes towards anger/killings in men, I don't see it as the main reason myself. Since the first human, the male has always been more aggressive. Over one thing or another and so it continues. Why are most men responsible for sadistic crime? Paedos, animal abusers, gun shootings, general murders, kidnappings? It's not because they were made to feel beta. We commit way more crime as a gender. The answer is simple, physiologically it's inbuilt in our brain to be fighting or leading something - evolutionary inheritance and high T. Women rarely commit the same type of inhumane acts like being paedos and killing kids, and if they do, usually there is a man involved that she loves who is the leader.

where were you when i needed you ? :D

just kidding... anyway yeah i agree
 

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Whilst I will say that this whole "feeling beta" you mention contributes towards anger/killings in men, I don't see it as the main reason myself.

There is a series of reasons. It's not like you or I can point to one thing and deem that the culprit.

There's a integration of feminist ideology embedded into the fabric of the education system, divorce and family court, and a legal system that is used to enforce the feminine biological strategy. Furthermore, if you are the best candidate for the job, you can lose the position because of girl power, affirmative action, and it's wrong. This is prevalent across the board but more alarming in positions like fire fighting and policing whereby, in competency and lowering the bar to fill a quota has deadly consequences. While it hasn't affected me, I have had friends who have been affected by the following, and it's not OK. I was complimented for my hard work, fitness, dedication to the betterment of myself, and others by former superiors in said field. This goes to deaf ears because it means virtually nothing when, if my life trajectory is aimed that way, at thirty, I am struggling, and unemployed because of the poor hiring practices. A buddy of mine is in a similar predicament whereby, he is overlooked based upon gender whereas, the equivalency of testing and fitness is passed but the hiring process is pertaining to girl power. The girls cannot pass the test so they drop the bar, and they still cannot pass. Guys are not happy with that.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3467778?guccounter=1

Since the first human, the male has always been more aggressive. Over one thing or another and so it continues. Why are most men responsible for sadistic crime?

The science is there to suggest that men are less agreeable and more aggressive. Men act out accordingly. Women act aggressive in reputation decimation instead of violence so, there is no end insight.

Jian Ghomeshi trial: Defence argues testimony 'riddled with lies,' calls for acquittal

The inconsistencies and lies of the three complainants in the sexual assault trial of Jian Ghomeshi must lead to an acquittal of the former CBC Radio host, his defence team argued in court today. But the Crown suggested that the "unshaken" allegations of the women show guilt.

"You've heard the evidence in this case," Ghomeshi's lawyer Marie Henein said in her closing argument. "And for reasons that we have submitted to you, it is our submission that the evidence in the courtroom falls so far short of proving anything beyond a reasonable doubt, it is so riddled with inconsistencies and improbabilities and proven lies under oath that it cannot be said to prove anything.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/jian-ghomeshi-sexual-assault-trial-1.3443556

Character assassination. Essentially, genetic ostracism. Note, the crown pushed 'unshakeable' guilt because women said despite a series of lies and inconsistencies.

This is unacceptable and jail time needs to follow-up with said falsehood in court regardless of gender. His life is trashed. I quite think he sucks as a human being but, this is wrong and similar to the #metoo, it's always on the end of when smv has plummeted and the reign of terror has ended. Rose McGowan comes to mind and took a bribe bit preferred to be a martyr and SJW. It usually follows through afterwards when Hollywood stops offering roles. Jion was attacked because 50 year old man is pursuing much younger women and middle age women couldn't get the ring. They were in collusion and got away with it.

Paedos, animal abusers, gun shootings, general murders, kidnappings?

Just so we're on the same page, a question mark follows a question. You strung together a series of words but, what are you asking.

Magic, hat, car, blue sky?

It's not because they were made to feel beta. We commit way more crime as a gender. The answer is simple, physiologically it's inbuilt in our brain to be fighting or leading something - evolutionary inheritance and high T.

Higher not lesser T results in more aggression. Would you say, pc culture, male feminists, gender neural, the Vice interviewer on Jordan Peterson who doesn't know how to flirt, etc are higher or lower testosterone?

We're all on the same page here. Going out to win, the kobes, LeBron, Jordan's, Gretzky, and winners are what women pursue and rightly so. Would we deem higher or lesser testosterone? Pretty obvious but, the demonization of men, toxic masculinity, and the Naseem Taleb antifragile disposition women have to responsibility, to criticism, shame, and even legal responsibility much of the time is a far gone conclusion.

The mistake is demonizing a subset of disgusting behavior across culture and gender. Gta mini van murders is disgusting regardless of the perpetrator. Pedos are disgusting regardless of gender but, let's make a note of the female teachers who are diddling boys.

There's a certain level of perspective on male aggression and female aggression.
It's documented heavily about 'where are the good men?' the translation isn't good as in provider but, meets her level of entitlement.

Society is setup for the female biological strategy. The fallout for marriage, divorce, child custody, alimony, and so on is well documented. Needless to say, it's a one way flow.

Public shaming is usually a female tactic. 'if you're a real man, _____________.!' another words, dance monkey, dance.

It's a system of power to seek out female approval.

Women rarely commit the same type of inhumane acts like being paedos and killing kids, and if they do, usually there is a man involved that she loves who is the leader.

It's not like the issue is one specific thing. It's cyclical and a series of things.

Again, this is not about equal or sameness since we can agree biologically, men and women are not the same. XX and XY is not the same. You or I cannot get pregnant to have children. One has higher estrogen and the other higher testosterone.

The point I am making is that, aggression in men and women is acted out differently. Women use forms of aggression like the divorce courts, cucking, beta make shaming, deeming a man a creep, and the list goes on.

Men use physical force but, more than half domestic violence is initiated by women not men.

It's pretty evident that women pursue Chad's in youth and beta male provider as that attention disappears.

The man renting a mini van and going gta is unhappy about that fact. Clearly, he is not oriented right.


There's a problem these days and pointing at men as a whole exacerbates the issue which cascades and is a amplifier to the current system.

Even a woman who isn't oriented right can fallback on victimhood even when being the perpetrator.
 

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There is a series of reasons. It's not like you or I can point to one thing and deem that the culprit.

There's a integration of feminist ideology embedded into the fabric of the education system, divorce and family court, and a legal system that is used to enforce the feminine biological strategy. Furthermore, if you are the best candidate for the job, you can lose the position because of girl power, affirmative action, and it's wrong. This is prevalent across the board but more alarming in positions like fire fighting and policing whereby, in competency and lowering the bar to fill a quota has deadly consequences. While it hasn't affected me, I have had friends who have been affected by the following, and it's not OK. I was complimented for my hard work, fitness, dedication to the betterment of myself, and others by former superiors in said field. This goes to deaf ears because it means virtually nothing when, if my life trajectory is aimed that way, at thirty, I am struggling, and unemployed because of the poor hiring practices. A buddy of mine is in a similar predicament whereby, he is overlooked based upon gender whereas, the equivalency of testing and fitness is passed but the hiring process is pertaining to girl power. The girls cannot pass the test so they drop the bar, and they still cannot pass. Guys are not happy with that.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3467778?guccounter=1



The science is there to suggest that men are less agreeable and more aggressive. Men act out accordingly. Women act aggressive in reputation decimation instead of violence so, there is no end insight.



Character assassination. Essentially, genetic ostracism. Note, the crown pushed 'unshakeable' guilt because women said despite a series of lies and inconsistencies.

This is unacceptable and jail time needs to follow-up with said falsehood in court regardless of gender. His life is trashed. I quite think he sucks as a human being but, this is wrong and similar to the #metoo, it's always on the end of when smv has plummeted and the reign of terror has ended. Rose McGowan comes to mind and took a bribe bit preferred to be a martyr and SJW. It usually follows through afterwards when Hollywood stops offering roles. Jion was attacked because 50 year old man is pursuing much younger women and middle age women couldn't get the ring. They were in collusion and got away with it.



Just so we're on the same page, a question mark follows a question. You strung together a series of words but, what are you asking.

Magic, hat, car, blue sky?



Higher not lesser T results in more aggression. Would you say, pc culture, male feminists, gender neural, the Vice interviewer on Jordan Peterson who doesn't know how to flirt, etc are higher or lower testosterone?

We're all on the same page here. Going out to win, the kobes, LeBron, Jordan's, Gretzky, and winners are what women pursue and rightly so. Would we deem higher or lesser testosterone? Pretty obvious but, the demonization of men, toxic masculinity, and the Naseem Taleb antifragile disposition women have to responsibility, to criticism, shame, and even legal responsibility much of the time is a far gone conclusion.

The mistake is demonizing a subset of disgusting behavior across culture and gender. Gta mini van murders is disgusting regardless of the perpetrator. Pedos are disgusting regardless of gender but, let's make a note of the female teachers who are diddling boys.

There's a certain level of perspective on male aggression and female aggression.
It's documented heavily about 'where are the good men?' the translation isn't good as in provider but, meets her level of entitlement.

Society is setup for the female biological strategy. The fallout for marriage, divorce, child custody, alimony, and so on is well documented. Needless to say, it's a one way flow.

Public shaming is usually a female tactic. 'if you're a real man, _____________.!' another words, dance monkey, dance.

It's a system of power to seek out female approval.



It's not like the issue is one specific thing. It's cyclical and a series of things.

Again, this is not about equal or sameness since we can agree biologically, men and women are not the same. XX and XY is not the same. You or I cannot get pregnant to have children. One has higher estrogen and the other higher testosterone.

The point I am making is that, aggression in men and women is acted out differently. Women use forms of aggression like the divorce courts, cucking, beta make shaming, deeming a man a creep, and the list goes on.

Men use physical force but, more than half domestic violence is initiated by women not men.

It's pretty evident that women pursue Chad's in youth and beta male provider as that attention disappears.

The man renting a mini van and going gta is unhappy about that fact. Clearly, he is not oriented right.


There's a problem these days and pointing at men as a whole exacerbates the issue which cascades and is a amplifier to the current system.

Even a woman who isn't oriented right can fallback on victimhood even when being the perpetrator.
Please lower the word content of your future posts.
 

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Reading back through this thread. Cannot believe that it is 2019 and educated people still use that false alpha-beta dichotomy in this context...
 
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