Why The Fecking Heck Isn't My Hair Growing Back?

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Dude i would recommend u to stop it after the 5 month if your hair does not improve.I am 15 days on minoxidil dermaroller biotin ketoconazole shampoo and Kaffein shampoo and my hair improved 10 better than i expected and i didnt expected it for so short time.First 2/3 days had shedding and after it my hair got so much thicker.I guess you are not good responder.Do you use dermaroller? I think dermaroller is as important as minoxidil i aplly it right away after i use dermaroller it hurts a bit but it is very effective.I will post update on my hair after 30 days .
 

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Almost 8 years.
Finasteride worked for a while, something like 2 years. Then it was a disaster.
Cyproterone didn't help at all ... and was weaker than Dutasteride 1-2mg/day.
I'm just saying Dutasteride is better from MY experience. Maybe it won't work for you ... but you should try for your peace of mind ...
Strange how Cyproterone didn't work.. Were you sure it was genuine? Did you get growth from dutasteride? Why didn't you use it at 0.5mg?
 

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I can't either. I just will not sport bird's nest or comb over. There will come a time and it's gone. I hope you do the same.

Checkout psychedelic substance YouTube channel. Cool guy. Seems right up your alley.
Yea I know him he's cool. His hairloss was due to accutane though.
I don't think you will bald aggressively. I really think you should go back to basics and just use finasteride. Topical minoxidil foam once or twice per day. Don't make excuses about not being able to keep up with the minoxidil. You don't even leave your house. You are way too young to be messing with other drugs. I feel bad for you since you really seem like a good person. I know you have a lot of mental issues and that is what you need to work on.
But finasteride didn't work for me and I used it for over a year I was considerably below baseline by then. I'm planning on dropping minoxidil completely as I'm 99℅ sure it is causing my shed. I was never much of a shedder to begin with,so hopefully once I ween off I might see some regrowth. Thanks for the kind words Dr House. I wish it was as simple as popping finasteride and applying minoxidil for me but it just doesn't work for me and I have no idea why. My hair loss is as generic as it comes.
Dude i would recommend u to stop it after the 5 month if your hair does not improve.I am 15 days on minoxidil dermaroller biotin ketoconazole shampoo and Kaffein shampoo and my hair improved 10 better than i expected and i didnt expected it for so short time.First 2/3 days had shedding and after it my hair got so much thicker.I guess you are not good responder.Do you use dermaroller? I think dermaroller is as important as minoxidil i aplly it right away after i use dermaroller it hurts a bit but it is very effective.I will post update on my hair after 30 days .
Lucky you lol. Do you mean stop the minoxidil? If so I'm weening off it already I've halved my dosage. I used to dermaroll but I kept pulling out hairs doing it so I figured it was doing more harm than good, never regrow anything using it.
 

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Yea I know him he's cool. His hairloss was due to accutane though.

But finasteride didn't work for me and I used it for over a year I was considerably below baseline by then. I'm planning on dropping minoxidil completely as I'm 99℅ sure it is causing my shed. I was never much of a shedder to begin with,so hopefully once I ween off I might see some regrowth. Thanks for the kind words Dr House. I wish it was as simple as popping finasteride and applying minoxidil for me but it just doesn't work for me and I have no idea why. My hair loss is as generic as it comes.

Lucky you lol. Do you mean stop the minoxidil? If so I'm weening off it already I've halved my dosage. I used to dermaroll but I kept pulling out hairs doing it so I figured it was doing more harm than good, never regrow anything using it.
At the beginning i was pulling hairs out too.Look at Somebody Alex youtube channel how to the dermaroller on long hair.
 

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Yeah my testosterone was under female ranges ... but maybe my body was still producing too much dht in the scalp (only Dutasteride 0.5mg a day)
I get regrowth from Dutasteride yeah ... 0.5mg was not enough ... at 1 and 2mg a day my hair loss halted and I had regrowth. But it killed my libido.
With Cyproterone 12,5-25mg a day + 0.5mg Dutasteride = Libido !!!
Wait cyproterone increased your libido?? I currently have no libido lol. Before I would masturbate usually once a day, now.. I've not masturbated in two weeks. How did your regrowth start? Was it as tiny white vellus hairs?
 

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I am so confused why people are chemically castrating themselves...
 

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I am so confused why people are chemically castrating themselves...
Because being bald in your early 20s is a social and romantic death sentence.
 

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Wait ... When I decided to take Cypro I lowered Dutasteride to only 0.5mg ... I took 2mg Estradiol too + estrogel ... maybe my libido came from Estradiol or from "higher" DHT ... ?
Regrowth ? It was so long ago, I don't remember, at that time I was not as obsessed as now. I took my pills everyday without really thinking about it.
Hmm strange. Even with lowering your dutasteride dosage that shouldn't have affected your libido. I'm only on finasteride and I have no libido with cypro. Nonetheless I just want my damn hair to grow back. Really hoping I'm not in the 0.1% :(
 

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@AnxiousAndy : Try Dutasteride then ... why not ???
Because finasteride accelerated my hairline recession so surely dutasteride would do the same only worse? Also its really expensive.. Unless you know where to buy generics?
 

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inhousepharmac y ?
pharmacydirectgb ?
evopharmacy ?
Thanks I'll check them out. Hopefully it doesn't make me bald, but given the rate I'm shedding it won't be long before I'm shaving anyway :( *sigh*
 

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Because being bald in your early 20s is a social and romantic death sentence.

Surely gyno and testicle and dick shrinkage which a combo of progesterone and estradiol will cause is just as worse? Castrating yourself is not a great way to GROW back hair but is a good way to HALT hair loss. If you want to grow hair you will need growth promoters such as minoxidil, copper peptides, dermarolling and scalp massage...which people have been able yo reverse hair loss with a combo of these things alone without making themselves into a transexual.
 

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I know how you feel bro. I'm on 1.5mg duta and 500mg spironolactone and my hair just keeps getting worse.. It's strange because i don't shed nearly as much. Today i counted 11 or 12 hairs.. Just 4 in the shower.. Before that i could count 40-50..
My hair has patches all over like someone ripped bits of it.. Seriously.. Wtf! I'll keep it up for the next two months to hit 6 months on duta and 4 in spironolactone.. After that idk.. :(
 

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Yeah ... I hope you won't have sexual side effects. Good luck.
Thanks! I already have sexual sides anyway so it doesn't matter at this point.
Surely gyno and testicle and dick shrinkage which a combo of progesterone and estradiol will cause is just as worse? Castrating yourself is not a great way to GROW back hair but is a good way to HALT hair loss. If you want to grow hair you will need growth promoters such as minoxidil, copper peptides, dermarolling and scalp massage...which people have been able yo reverse hair loss with a combo of these things alone without making themselves into a transexual.
What are copper peptides?
I know how you feel bro. I'm on 1.5mg duta and 500mg spironolactone and my hair just keeps getting worse.. It's strange because i don't shed nearly as much. Today i counted 11 or 12 hairs.. Just 4 in the shower.. Before that i could count 40-50..
My hair has patches all over like someone ripped bits of it.. Seriously.. Wtf! I'll keep it up for the next two months to hit 6 months on duta and 4 in spironolactone.. After that idk.. :(
Holy sh*t that's way too much spironolactone, you might as well take cyproterone instead. I'm jealous of your shedding. So far I'm on roughly 165 hairs fallen :( If your loss is patchy do you think you could have alopecia areta as well as male pattern baldness?
 

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Yea I know him he's cool. His hairloss was due to accutane though.

Same situation here. Accutane induced hair loss. Account date was around the time of the use. Unlike the YouTuber, he ordered it online in liquid Accutane and self administered 80-100mg. I was going to order online and my doctor gave me a prescription. It's crazy powerful drug. I would feel more like we're deserving our fate if it was steroids.

I thought of the YouTuber because of your trippy avi. One tripper to another lol

But finasteride didn't work for me and I used it for over a year I was considerably below baseline by then. I'm planning on dropping minoxidil completely as I'm 99℅ sure it is causing my shed. I was never much of a shedder to begin with,so hopefully once I ween off I might see some regrowth. Thanks for the kind words Dr House. I wish it was as simple as popping finasteride and applying minoxidil for me but it just doesn't work for me and I have no idea why. My hair loss is as generic as it comes.

Any recommendations for hairstyle? I think undercut and fading in where it's spoty otherwise buzzing it. I think the last straw is beard and shaving it.

Lucky you lol. Do you mean stop the minoxidil? If so I'm weening off it already I've halved my dosage. I used to dermaroll but I kept pulling out hairs doing it so I figured it was doing more harm than good, never regrow anything using it.

I think it's relative. Like, we're fucked. It's like how to prolong life? Bruce Lee said it best. 'immortality is in living a life worth remembering.'
 

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Same situation here. Accutane induced hair loss. Account date was around the time of the use. Unlike the YouTuber, he ordered it online in liquid Accutane and self administered 80-100mg. I was going to order online and my doctor gave me a prescription. It's crazy powerful drug. I would feel more like we're deserving our fate if it was steroids.

I thought of the YouTuber because of your trippy avi. One tripper to another lol



Any recommendations for hairstyle? I think undercut and fading in where it's spoty otherwise buzzing it. I think the last straw is beard and shaving it.



I think it's relative. Like, we're fucked. It's like how to prolong life? Bruce Lee said it best. 'immortality is in living a life worth remembering.'
I used to be a big tripper, the profile pic must be a giveaway lol. f*** Accutane, I have a friend who lost most of his hair on accutane when he was only 19, it never recovered.
I'm not one to recommend hairstyles as I'm rocking an early 2000s cut lol. Hides the hairline. Google is your friend in this case!
That's an awesome quote, shame about Bruce and brandon. Two tragic tales:( They sure did have some nice hair though!
 

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Andy, I messaged you a while back when I was considering starting oral minoxidil because I thought treatments were failing me. I feel like your hair loss is similar to mine in the sense that you feel like you’re on a constant shed and losing ground. If you look at my story you will see periodic posts of me complaining the same. I’ll have visible thinning in certain months and then others a somewhat recovery. You can see this documented in my photos and I believe this is just minoxidil and it’s cycles.

I have had constant doubt across these 4 years that I’m losing ground and some months may hair genuinely looks terrible but I’ve stuck it it out with propecia, minoxidil and only adding dermarolling into my routine November of last year. I can happily say that I’m far better off than I would be without treatment even though some months I question this. However 4 years with only minor recession of the hairline must be a success.

I’m telling you all this because where I think my story and your story differ is the fact that you’re constantly adding in and dropping treatments - no wonder you are losing ground. You may just be shocking your hair into a constant telogen phase by doing this and hence your never ending shed. Try and get some continuity in your routine.

My suggestion is to go back to basics propecia (or duta) and minoxidil. Maybe instead of oral try Derma stamping (not rolling) with liquid/foam minoxidil. I ran into the same hairpull issue with Dermarolling but you can avoid this by using a derma stamp. This time stick it out for 1-2 years without mixing up and single thing your routine. Do not add or drop treatments. Try and get yourself into a better headspace, stop focusing on every minuet change in your hair and just tell yourself for now you’re doing all you can for now.

Sorry for the long post and hopefully it helps. I haven’t been on the forums much so sorry if I’m not actually that clued in on your situation. But hope this helps. Good luck mate :)
 

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Maybe provide us with a before and after picture so we can get a better gauge of where you're coming from.

As for the way you're feeling. Dude you need to get blood work done and see someone like an endocrinologist. You're taking female hormones and inhibiting drugs of your male hormones. Regardless of how your hair state is you could be doing yourself some serious irreversible damage.
 

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How many hormone altering drugs you have been taking for the last 2 years?


You have been taking finasteride,got off,spironolactone and also got off and now you are on cipro?

Do you know females get telogen effl
ivium after pregnacy? Well i wonder how many times your hormones have fluctuated in the last 2 years. Telogen Effluvium can definitly last atleast 6 months

Stick to the base unless you want to end impotent you are atrophying your genitals if you havent had an erection in weeks you are trading misery with misery
 

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I used to be a big tripper, the profile pic must be a giveaway lol. f*** Accutane, I have a friend who lost most of his hair on accutane when he was only 19, it never recovered.
I'm not one to recommend hairstyles as I'm rocking an early 2000s cut lol. Hides the hairline. Google is your friend in this case!
That's an awesome quote, shame about Bruce and brandon. Two tragic tales:( They sure did have some nice hair though!

It's toxic. Accutane is poison but, everyone laughed at the chocolate bars don't was my face ad. It killed my ego. Like, it was a psychological beating. I hear people laugh and it killed me.

If I didn't have cystic adult acne, I would have seeked an alternative treatment but, I was at the mercy of fate. I either become moon face with craters or Accutane. Similar to psyched substance, I ordered it online, but I took a prescription. 80mg recked my hair. Psyched took 100mg of liquid Accutane off a site. That's insane.

He's mad cool. I wonder if I tripped back then, would it be as bother some to my ego. When I acknowledged that I have male pattern baldness or early stages of it, I felt it rattling my cage, and ego. After tripping, little matters like hair loss or whatever.

I mentioned, I had a botched haircut. Basically, it was a buzz cut. Not what I was looking for. I showed up and got the bae lol she even sh*t tested and said she doesn't like bald. It's water off a ducks back. Guys need to approach women from a place of indifference. Caring is overrated. Like, after tripping, you see there's so much more to do than obsess about skin or hair and nonsense.
 

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Everything you said is correct but for me however my ego came back after a few years and it was 3x bigger than before like an oversized balloon lol, and now i am back to obsessing over my appearance

I follow podcasts like JRE, Jordan Peterson, YouTube channel pschye substance, and I trip. I have studied about consciousness and read Terrence McKenna and Rick Straussman before indulging myself. It's no joke. Tripping is some serious heavy-duty sh*t.

I think if Elliot Rogers and the goat once who went gta actually explored consciousness, tripped, and got in touch with what Carl Jung deemed 'the shadow,' they would acknowledge what creepy little fucks they are and why women don't want to procreate with them.

It's genocidal but, that's what genetic ostracism is. It's females promoting genocide, deeming certain men inability to procreate. Weeding out genes. It's kind of a dark reality but, ask yourself, are the world better off without those genes proliferating across time? It brings into question social engineering and which political pushes are being pedaled to women. For instance, China deems women 25+ as 'left over women.' western society celebrates 'proud single mom,' not marrying until 30+ when SMV has cratered and Chad's stop calling.

There's a veil of ignorance that erodes once you open your eyes and begin seeing the world as it is not how you wish to see it. That being, the woman most men are marrying is Chad's booty call, and she changes her tune as her biology fails her.

Ideally, men need to get past spreading thru seed and women need to go beyond hypergamy. Unfortunately, it's hard wired and coded into our DNA. Tripping unplug a person.

Attachments lead to suffering. Turn into the skid. Embrace your insecurities. Go get Bae. You will see the world through a new lens.
 
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