Where Is The Female Red Pill Movement?

[Afro_Vacancy]

There is a female equivalent to MGTOW it just doesn't have an abbreviation.

It's called sperm banks. Women in their 30s who have not found a good enough man often go to sperm banks.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

I actually think male actors are a bigger draw and that is why they earn more.

For whatever reason, having a famous male lead tends to accelerate box office revenue in a way that a famous female lead does not.

I wasn't talking about actors. Don't shift the goalposts.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

Johnson lives in Vietnam - I'm sure he has tons of options.

I'm actually out in a really small village teaching so there are almost zero options here.

But over in Saigon (where I move back to within the next month or so) there are tons of options with both locals and expats.

I'm sure you know how easy it is to get laid in S.E Asia.

The sex tourism in Bangkok and Pattaya alone is insane.

 

[JeanLucBB]

No, companies pay men more, pay white people more, pay high-class people more etc etc etc because they incorrectly perceive them as being worth more than they are. You're assuming that there is a kernel of rationality that can overwhelm the bias, but there isn't, or at least it's very rare.

Hollywood is a famous example I've mentioned on this site. Less than 1% of blockbusters have women directors. A lot of unqualified men are hired, a lot of qualified women are never hired. It stays that way due to biases. There are extremely talented women available for cheap, but they're left out.

You're making that claim on the basis of an assumption without citing evidence of the fact. The fact that various employers hire more female graduates to create a more even gender balance on the other hand is not an assumption, it is a fact that is actually occurring in the open and is blatant discrimination.

i agree the Hollywood issue is interesting and a mistake on their behalf, however the alternative being thrown around is to make choices of who to hire based on and advocating legitimate discrimination.

 

[Rudiger]

We've now got a poster called "redpilled" and he's being taken seriously?

This place is so corny.

 

[Medina]

Sure, you're bound to have exceptions. And I never questioned that guys experience.

I did great on tinder last year and posted extensively about it.

Oh you went on a date last year? Well done

You make yourself out to be a champion of womens rights and then describe yourself as a pussy crusher. LOL

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

You're making that claim on the basis of an assumption without citing evidence of the fact. The fact that various employers hire more female graduates to create a more even gender balance on the other hand is not an assumption, it is a fact that is actually occurring in the open and is blatant discrimination.

i agree the Hollywood issue is interesting and a mistake on their behalf, however the alternative being thrown around is to make choices of who to hire based on and advocating legitimate discrimination.

Hollywood hires based on discrimination right now. They give preference to white men. Spielberg is open about this, he hires people who remind him of him.

I'm using it as an example because it's well known. We can't have the same discussion about radiation oncologists or estate lawyers because we don't know as much. Meanwhile film directors are one of the most important jobs out there, they help define our culture.

There are other cases where women have advantages, for example if you're 16 and looking for a part time job selling movie tickets or scooping ice cream or lifeguarding, you are more likely to get hired if you're a girl than if you're a guy.

Anyway I have a lot to do today, and regardless@zircon has already comprehensively dominated the thread. I went over the discussion and he was the only one bringing forth either data or their never mind both.

 

[hairblues]

I'm 45, have had several relationships, am in one now. In fact, I live in a country where I'm considered a "good catch" based on arbitrary attributes (a rich, white guy living in Thailand on a big income and lots of savings).

Are you sure that experience--you had to go to country where your JUST valued on your fiannces--has not warped your perspective. Especially never having had a relationship without money being involved? how can you be unbiased?
You cant. Your life experiences has been from perspective of a an almost 'victim' of society probably based on your looks and or social skills with opposite sex.
Of course that is going to make you a prime target for a somewhat warped 'ideology' in this case its the "man' movements.
You may be right you may be wrong but you are going to be very biased and tainted from your perspective and life experience.
Chances are if you were living in 1950s you would have been married in your 20s to a young beautiful or very attractive woman who would have been financially dependent on you and looked at you as her leader and known her place...2017--you had to go to Thailand for this at 45 years old.

 

[JeanLucBB]

Hollywood hires based on discrimination right now. They give preference to white men. Spielberg is open about this, he hires people who remind him of him.

I'm using it as an example because it's well known. We can't have the same discussion about radiation oncologists or estate lawyers because we don't know as much. Meanwhile film directors are one of the most important jobs out there, they help define our culture.

There are other cases where women have advantages, for example if you're 16 and looking for a part time job selling movie tickets or scooping ice cream or lifeguarding, you are more likely to get hired if you're a girl than if you're a guy.

Anyway I have a lot to do today, and regardless@zircon has already comprehensively dominated the thread. I went over the discussion and he was the only one bringing forth either data or their never mind both.

What is the alternative though? Legislating to force Spielberg to hire a female DP? Not budgeting a future Spielberg film because it's time to give women a turn?

He provided zero data for specific evidence of like-for-like job pay gaps. Also strawmaned the absolute sh*t out of those providing counter arguments, and proceeded to label them as probable incels and men rejected by women.

 

[Rudiger]

I'm really not feeling well enough to get to the meat of this discussion so I'll lazily just throw it out there that zircon is probably correct.

Now let's all go home.

 

[hairblues]

Yes but the free market won't change the view that men are perverts just for being attracted to a woman or simply saying hello

While women celebrate their own sexuality to no end.

Men are not perverts for just saying hello.

I have worked with mostly men in some parts of my career and 9 out of 10 men are fantastic, even when they joke you know they are joking no one needs to police them...if you are on same level no problem even if you get a rare dick head if you are equal position you can tell them to f*** off (although some women don't do this, I do) and then iF STILL they don't back off you can go to a higher up and complain.

THAT being said the problem is when someone is in a position of power 'over' you' and won't back off (and this is not that common in my field but happens on occasion)--partially because the men in power have access to plenty of women who would gladly f*** them so it's not like they have to pursue it where they work if someone is uninterested...but a few men will be spiteful when women turn them down--the problem is when that effects the job..and a woman is 'punished' in some way for not f*****g the boss or not tolerating his sexist jokes and innuendos that make her feel uncomfortable....

dont equate this behavior with a guy being attracted to a co worker or a co worker making an inappropriate joke..it is about having a position power over someone and 'punishing' them for not tolerating their sexism...

HUGE difference.

 

[Medina]

I'm really not feeling well enough to get to the meat of this discussion so I'll lazily just throw it out there that zircon is probably correct.

Now let's all go home.

He's well written and obviously well educated but he let himself down by trying to show off about how much pussy he gets during a serious debate.

 

[hairblues]

It's easy to hate Redpill but it exists for a reason, it's a reaction, not a cause. We have equality for the first time yet people are more angry, more confused and more alone than ever. Including women. And can you blame them? Society tells them one thing, while biology tells them another.

Just ask yourself why 50 shades of grey is the best seller in a pro-feminist, post-patriarch society.

LOL 50 Shades is a fantasy about a billionaire taking care of a woman
I think it may have more to do with economics and recession.

But there has always been a dichotomy of strong women (and men) in their work life who enjoy in their private sexual life to give over power to their partner.

Many strong CEO alpha males like to submit and be spanked by PVC clad Dommes so your point is pointless.

 

[Rudiger]

He's well written and obviously well educated but he let himself down by trying to show off about how much pussy he gets during a serious debate.

Damn this sounds good.

I'm not a zircon asslicker to be clear but I've realised recently I align myself with a lot of his logic, and actually there aren't many others on here I'd put in the same bracket as myself.

 

[hairblues]

You raise a good point here that is seldom raised.

The theory that females have introduced "feelings" into politics. Which has lead to the creation of safe spaces, political correctness, sexual politics, virtue signalling etc. Gone are the days of debates. They are now a one-sided affair where you can't disagree without "offending" the opposition. This was unheard of years ago.

I dont know I think its a generational thing with the safe spaces etc...

I have had a lot of young guys and women work for me and its been like 'babies' they don't seem like adults in early 20s. This is both male and female.

 

[Medina]

Men are not perverts for just saying hello.

I have worked with mostly men in some parts of my career and 9 out of 10 men are fantastic, even when they joke you know they are joking no one needs to police them...if you are on same level no problem even if you get a rare dick head if you are equal position you can tell them to f*** off (although some women don't do this, I do) and then iF STILL they don't back off you can go to a higher up and complain.

THAT being said the problem is when someone is in a position of power 'over' you' and won't back off (and this is not that common in my field but happens on occasion)--partially because the men in power have access to plenty of women who would gladly f*** them so it's not like they have to pursue it where they work if someone is uninterested...but a few men will be spiteful when women turn them down--the problem is when that effects the job..and a woman is 'punished' in some way for not f*****g the boss or not tolerating his sexist jokes and innuendos that make her feel uncomfortable....

dont equate this behavior with a guy being attracted to a co worker or a co worker making an inappropriate joke..it is about having a position power over someone and 'punishing' them for not tolerating their sexism...

HUGE difference.

Aren't you a new yorker? Did you miss the viral harassment video then?

LOL 50 Shades is a fantasy about a billionaire taking care of a woman
I think it may have more to do with economics and recession.

But there has always been a dichotomy of strong women (and men) in their work life who enjoy in their private sexual life to give over power to their partner.

Many strong CEO alpha males like to submit and be spanked by PVC clad Dommes so your point is pointless.

Hardly "pointless". We live in a heavily feminist era yet a book that celebrates male sexual domination became a HUGE HIT with women.

I dont know I think its a generational thing with the safe spaces etc...

I have had a lot of young guys and women work for me and its been like 'babies' they don't seem like adults in early 20s. This is both male and female.

Fair point they are crybabies

 

[hairblues]

Hollywood is a famous example I've mentioned on this site. Less than 1% of blockbusters have women directors. A lot of unqualified men are hired, a lot of qualified women are never hired. It stays that way due to biases. There are extremely talented women available for cheap, but they're left out.

he has made this argument before and I have to stick up for my industry as a whole. (we are NOT just the handful of super hero blockbusters)

MOST female directors I personally know who are successful I know for 20+ years and they have never been drawn creatively to that genre as artists...a lot of them are in Theater, TV and with Fillm more artistic and/or talking head kind of films..same with most production designers I know...My friend is a female production designer in late 30s just posted a pic "I am not into super hero films but wonder woman was really good' Because she does not enjoy this genre and is not interested in these types of films...So you have to take that into consideration of artists and what we are drawn too and what you want to fight for or lobby for.

I am not saying there is not some sexist bias or that some positions are more associated with men BUT this is getting very antiquated from when I first started in 90s...I remember at the time it was rare to see female DPs or even more than 1 female in camera department--but more and more females started to study these areas and are taking these jobs...There is a natural 'young girls and woman' becoming more interested in things and other areas and them coming up...so I would say in like 10 years you are going to see a lot more female directors who are young who ARE interested in comics and super hero blockbuster type stories being drawn into directing those films.

Also its kind of short sighted to think the whole industry is all about what is going on in the top grossing world wide films...its kind of ridiculous as only a fraction of people working 'above the line' in the industry as a whole are working on those specific films.

But you can't force this to happen...the passion hast to be there for a director or it will be garbage.

Wonder woman was kind of organic, female director..so much TV is female directors and show runners.
WORSE thing to do is put a quota on female directors for top grossing films--it has to happen organic or it will suck and they will flop and then what? men will be going 'see you put women in as director of xyz and they fucked it up."

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Aren't you a new yorker? Did you miss the viral harassment video then?




Hardly "pointless". We live in a heavily feminist era yet a book that celebrates male sexual domination became a HUGE HIT with women.



Fair point they are crybabies

What video?

 

[hairblues]

Hardly "pointless". We live in a heavily feminist era yet a book that celebrates male sexual domination became a HUGE HIT with women.
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You know who was reading those books??
my bored middle aged non working housewife friends and their friends who are the farthest thing from modern feminists... it was 30-60 year old married vanilla ladies bored of there sex lives and feeling the income tightening in 2008 onwards that they had to get the Camry instead of the Navigator to economize.

 

[Medina]

What video?

Some woman walked through NYC and a bunch of guys said hello to her

Crime of the century