what percentage of men do you think treat hairloss?

s.a.f

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abcdefg said:
Yeah its pretty simple. Baldness is all how you look at it. A lot of men simply dont care enough or if they do care they dont want to waste the money on it.

Its not just hair how many guys put on weight etc after the age of 30 and dont seem to care many people just look at it as getting older.

...Sometimes I think that its guys who have missed out on living or some other aspects that are trying to hang onto their youth.
 

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I dunno... I had an unbelievable youth and just wanna hang on to those years because I'm afraid what is next. I know how easy life is when people like your face. I was about a norwood 2 at 20 and now at 24 am a norwood 0. Its not bad when you still get carded and girls still mistake you for 19. well atleast I like it.
 

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s.a.f said:
Probably a very small amount, mostly guys in their 20's I would imagine. Not many people are even aware of hairloss products.

most older people correctly learned there are no treatments (during their time), and don't trust medicine any more. Young people still think "these are modern times -- there must be modern methods", and think they can just go to a Doctor for a cure to anything. That is why they are likely to learn about propecia or at least spend money on a scam if they can't afford a Doctor.
 

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s.a.f said:
Its not just hair how many guys put on weight etc after the age of 30 and dont seem to care many people just look at it as getting older.

...Sometimes I think that its guys who have missed out on living or some other aspects that are trying to hang onto their youth.

very true.
 

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barcafan said:
For me it was about 6 months of trying bullshit 'natural' treatments untill i found the real causes, so i guess alot of people are worried about scams.

I did that. I could not tell the difference. And I thought propecia only worked in back and was out of my price range.
 

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KielMcK said:
recently most people i know that are balding bought that damned laser comb and think it is the answer. Its got lasers so its gotta work. Things such as this sound modern and high tech and makes sense in alot of peoples heads why there was never a cure in the past (because they never had lasers in the past)

my friend who introduced me to propecia and hair transplant uses that thing, and won't use nizoral.
 

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abcdefg said:
Yeah its pretty simple. Baldness is all how you look at it. A lot of men simply dont care enough or if they do care they dont want to waste the money on it. The treatments are all very expensive, must be used for life, and lose effectiveness anyways. I wonder whats the point myself sometimes. None of the treatments really regrow any cosmetically significant amount of hair anyways. Most men look like they went from balding to balding yet they are spending a cell phone bill a month for what makes no difference in the eyes of others only to themselves. People notice a Norwood 4 but people dont notice you going from a Norwood 4 to a Norwood 3.5. Its not even worth the change. Now if something could truly prevent someone from losing hair and help for 20 years and do it safely thats one thing. A treatment bringing someone from a Norwood 4 to a Norwood 2 or Norwood 1 thats something men might pay for. Nothing like that exists for most men.

Staying at NW3 is a lot better than going to NW6. If you are NE3 at 25, you will hit NW6 without treatments. Don't look at what you will look like at 70 on propecia. Look at how many more years you can stay below NW3 if you get on propecia when you are at NW2. I bet it will buy you 10 years.
 

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Not all hair loss is DHT related, if DHT isn't the key factor to your hair loss, Propecia won't do much.
 
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s.a.f said:
...Sometimes I think that its guys who have missed out on living or some other aspects that are trying to hang onto their youth.


Well, this is definetly true for me. I wasted my youth and this became even more clear to me when I started balding. But I think if I have had lived a happy life and was engaged to a nice gal I would still try to keep my hair but not be so obsesses about if of course.


Well, I think many young men get in panic when they notice their hairloss at first. But then they start thinking that it´s not that bad, their girlfriend will never leave them and last these pussies are reading about "sexual sides" on propecia and so they decide not to start at all.


A few years later they are 30 years old, Norwood 3.5, their girlfriend dumped them and the damage is done......
 
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flimflam said:
hahah, you're still in your "youth"... you pudding !!

No, youth starts at about 12-14 and ends in your early twenties. I am 25. The "good" years of my life are over and the fact that these were the "good" ones actually make my life very sad.
 

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Taugenichts said:
flimflam said:
hahah, you're still in your "youth"... you pudding !!

No, youth starts at about 12-14 and ends in your early twenties. I am 25. The "good" years of my life are over and the fact that these were the "good" ones actually make my life very sad.

for f*cks sake!!! :roll: :lol:

My dad is nearly 60. Try telling him his good years are behind him and he'll laugh at you.

Might find it hard to find him at the moment, though, I think he's somewhere in China, Hong Kong is the next stage in his round-the-world tour. Maybe you'll catch him in Australia somewhere?
 

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I think guys balding frequently try shampoos, but only a fraction start a regimen. I found that guys who were maybe losing a little, like having some temple recession, were even trying that shampoo... starts with N... I forget the name.
 

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collegechemistrystudent said:
s.a.f said:
Its not just hair how many guys put on weight etc after the age of 30 and dont seem to care many people just look at it as getting older.

...Sometimes I think that its guys who have missed out on living or some other aspects that are trying to hang onto their youth.

very true.

Yes I was thinking of you and Taug when I posted this comment.
 

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Taugenichts said:
No, youth starts at about 12-14 and ends in your early twenties. I am 25. The "good" years of my life are over and the fact that these were the "good" ones actually make my life very sad.

lulz. Just ... lulz.

Hey, if I thought I had peaked already, I'd just kill myself now.
 

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flimflam said:
Taugenichts said:
No, youth starts at about 12-14 and ends in your early twenties. I am 25. The "good" years of my life are over and the fact that these were the "good" ones actually make my life very sad.

lulz. Just ... lulz.

Hey, if I thought I had peaked already, I'd just kill myself now.

flimflam why you're stroking on the same key? It's true that some of us are trying to maintain or get back youth to fill a gap in our lifes. Some of us admitted. If you have a sugestion of how to improve our lifes write it. Just dont call names.
 

s.a.f

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It all depends on your lifes progress, by the age of 25 most guys have had a good deal of fun and are making plans to improve their careers and maybe start taking steps to being responsible about their future.
They may not be looking to settle down etc but would have at least had plenty of relationships some serious and some not. They will have forged some good freindships and have some great memories.
But in the case of Taug and some others they are stuck still waiting to experience the things that many people went through in their teens, girlfreinds, fun times and taking the first steps into making the most of the freedom that comes with adulthood.
These are important stages in social development. And with these huge gaps in your life moving on into the next stage of life is very difficult.
 

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We are forever young, it's all in the head, not on your head.

You are not those hairs, you are not that skin, you are not this body, you are that soul that is inside of it.
 

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Taug, it is not even close to being too late. Due to shyness etc I never started really LIVING life until I was 25. 29 now and I'm doing all the things many other people did in their early 20s... but that doesn't bother me. I'm a late bloomer, but so what? At least I'm "blooming" (ha... wow, that sounds wrong). It's my life and I'm not going to live it by anyone else's timeline.

Will you care that you're 5-7 years "behind" others when you are 77?
 

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IBM said:
flimflam said:
Taugenichts said:
No, youth starts at about 12-14 and ends in your early twenties. I am 25. The "good" years of my life are over and the fact that these were the "good" ones actually make my life very sad.

lulz. Just ... lulz.

Hey, if I thought I had peaked already, I'd just kill myself now.

flimflam why you're stroking on the same key? It's true that some of us are trying to maintain or get back youth to fill a gap in our lifes. Some of us admitted. If you have a sugestion of how to improve our lifes write it. Just dont call names.

ok, you're right, that wasn't very helpful of me. I'll say something a bit more useful:

When I first accepted my hairloss, at age 26, I thought: this is it - the end of my youth. Game over.

Gradually, over time, I realised that no one else cared as much as I did and I slowly came round to thinking this is MY life and I only have ONE try at it and why should I hide in the shadow of embarrassment and shame? I WILL NOT get to age 40 and be full of regret - look back and think: "my hair wasn't so bad - why did I turn down all those invitations? Why didn't I have more fun?"

It coincided with a house move to a place that was quite different to what I was used to and to be honest - quite scary. So it was either cave-in and live like a hermit and go out and have fun. I used to be a shy person who was quietly confident so I decided I would be tough and take any failures on the chin as I thought it would help me become a stronger person. I thought; yeah, I can handle it.

Guess what happened?

There were no failures.

I had the attitude "I have nothing to lose" so I went to parties. I talked to new people. I talked to girls. I didn't "try". I was relaxed. It was a gamble, which is something I don't do. I'm quite calculating. But oh it was worth it.

And, at 27 (next week!), I feel like my youth is actually just beginning - I'm having so much fun!! Much more fun that I did when I was aged 18-25 (with a thick NW1 ;)). So what I'm saying is, age-wise, there is hope! Just when you think it's over - you can still discover; it's not! It's all up to you. Just realise you can do it. You're human, and humans can do some really amazing sh*t can't they? :)

Maybe you need to surround yourself with new people? Get a new job, or move house? Something new, something scary. Take risks, it's so rewarding if you win or lose.

I wish you and Taug all the best, and anything I say has your best interests at heart. I feel for you guys just as I feel for myself and I want you to be happy like me.

Peace.

Alan
 
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