We lost a great head of hair this week

ColtsFan

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Bismark, is that all the little leftist Euro can muster? Calling me little names on a hair board? Whatever.....alls fair I guess

#1 I didnt marry young
#2 you must be gay, thats fine. I just dont prescribe to that particular lifestyle. If you HAVE a c*nt thats your problem not mine, now go clean it.

Hey guys JesusFreak broke out the partisan card by dredging the net for anti Reagan propaganda, while his widow was weeping over his casket. Thats just cowardly and weak....

My only point is that if you want big government, high taxes, entitlement programs for lazy asses, and a weak military, thats fine. Its just not the ideals that this country was built on and not what Ronald Reagan felt was in the best interest of this country.....
 

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Chujgcha said:
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About alternative sources of fuel, like we should have been doing in the seventies so we can tell OPEC to kiss our ***.

It's about time we stop sucking saudi pump. "Hydrogen is too dangerous" "It would take years to lay out the infrastructure" - KISS MY REDNECK ***. LETS SHUT UP AND DO IT.

Well you've got to get the Hydrogen from water by electrolysis so you'd better start building a lot of power stations and hope that the environmental lobby don't block them.
 

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right, but what about natural gas or ethanol? The gas trucks in my town are run on natural gas and they all have big v8's.

Let the government give us a tax deduction to pay for natural gas conversion kits....

Chevy,Ford, and Toyota are on the right track with hybrids
 

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ColtsFan said:
Bismark, is that all the little leftist Euro can muster? Calling me little names on a hair board? Whatever.....alls fair I guess

#1 I didnt marry young
#2 you must be gay, thats fine. I just dont prescribe to that particular lifestyle. If you HAVE a c*nt thats your problem not mine, now go clean it.

Hey guys JesusFreak broke out the partisan card by dredging the net for anti Reagan propaganda, while his widow was weeping over his casket. Thats just cowardly and weak....

My only point is that if you want big government, high taxes, entitlement programs for lazy asses, and a weak military, thats fine. Its just not the ideals that this country was built on and not what Ronald Reagan felt was in the best interest of this country.....


Thank you, Coltsfan. You seem to like strong leaders driving a nation to glorious battles.
You critize presidents that haven't fought against evil regimes. So explain why Reagan gave chemical weapons to Saddam. You like liberalism. That implies to stop every kind of market protectionism. Are you sure there would be more jobs?
 

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ok, JesusFreak, let me ask you what Clinton did for the good of the county?

I remember that there was a great economic growth under the Clinton administration.

This assumes that creating the conditions for economic growth is like flicking a light switch rather than being a process that can take decades to manifest itself fully.
 

ColtsFan

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Slarti,

Exactly apparently Bismark never took an American econ class, or he slept through it.

Clinton was clearly riding the wave of Reaganomics, (trickle down) after business's were able start expanding due to tax breaks....
 

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Bismarck said:
You like liberalism. That implies to stop every kind of market protectionism. Are you sure there would be more jobs?

I've not come across one piece of research that proves market protectionism to be good for an economy - when the US imposed steel tariffs in 2001 they were meant to safeguard American jobs, the higher cost of steel that ensued was responsible for more job losses across the economy than the steel tariffs protected.
 

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Slartibartfast said:
Bismarck said:
ok, JesusFreak, let me ask you what Clinton did for the good of the county?

I remember that there was a great economic growth under the Clinton administration.

This assumes that creating the conditions for economic growth is like flicking a light switch rather than being a process that can take decades to manifest itself fully.

Slarti, I think you're right. And we shouldn't forget that governments have not much possibilities to influence a phase of depression in the world economic growth. And what you say is perhaps the reason why there are no reforms done because they hurt at the beginning and when they manifest people forget about who has initiated them.
 

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F-You Jesus freak. :boid:

Typical liberal nonsensical spew. Why can't you @$$holes shut up for just one week so the nation can mourn a loss that MOST of us consider quite significant....but NO....You have to use a President's death as an opportunity to play stupid liberal politcal games.

How shallow and thoughtless of you....How very left wing socialist of you...Unfortunately it's also completely predictable that some dumbass left winger like you would go and use a great President's death as a chance to dog him for no particular good reason...You need to get some help man....Either that or pull your face out of that bong long enough to get a sense of how the REAL WORLD works. :moon:



IN ORDER TO BE A LEFT WINGER:

1. You have to believe the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding.

2. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach 4th graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids about sex.

3. You have to believe that guns, in the hands of law-abiding Americans, are more of a threat than U.S. nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese communists.

4. You have to believe that there was no art before Federal funding.

5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical, documented changes in the earth's climate, and more affected by yuppies driving SUVs.

6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial but being homosexual is natural.

7. You have to be against capital punishment but support abortion on demand.

8. You have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity.

9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but loony activists from Seattle do.

10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.

11. You have to believe the military, not corrupt politicians, start wars.

12. You have to believe the NRA is bad, because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good, because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.

13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.

14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinmen are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, General Robert E. Lee or Thomas Edison.

15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides aren't.

16. You have to believe Hillary Clinton is really a lady.

17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried, is because the right people haven't been in charge.

18. You have to believe Republicans telling the truth belong in jail, but a liar and sex offender belongs in the White House.

19. You have to believe that homosexual parades displaying drag, transvestites and bestiality should be constitutionally protected and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.

20. You have to believe that illegal Democratic party funding by the Chinese is somehow in the best interest of the United States.
 

Slartibartfast

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ColtsFan said:
right, but what about natural gas or ethanol? The gas trucks in my town are run on natural gas and they all have big v8's.

Let the government give us a tax deduction to pay for natural gas conversion kits....

Chevy,Ford, and Toyota are on the right track with hybrids

I guess natural gas has the same fundamental problems as oil in that it is a finite resource, open to large price swings, and not always found in the most politically stable regions.

To reduce dependance on oil bio-diesel could be an option - either used outright or mixed with regular diesel - also hybrids, as you said, and utilizing fuel-saving powertrain technologies, such as CVT/IVT gearboxes, that already exist.
 

ColtsFan

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Bismark I dont know what cave you just crawled out of but lets get educated real quick. Reagan never gave Saddam chemical weapons, site me legitimate examples if he did. He did support Saddam in his war against Iran because guess what, Iran was an enemy, they took over out embassy, and they took f*cking US citizens hostages... get it?

Go open a US history book, feel free to educate yourself.

Where in any of my posts did you see me say that I like liberalism?

Im not for protectionism against foriegn out-sourcing of of meanial American jobs that US workers dont want anyway.What I am against is not re training American workers to keep higher paying over here. Let China make tennis shoes, but lets retrain the manufacturing sect into the high tech and health care fields and keep those jobs over here.
 

ColtsFan

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Slarti,

great ideas, now if we can get Detroit and the politicians (rt and lft) to turn their back on the oil industry lobbyist that for so many years have given them monitary incentive to keep the status quo.

I would think nows the time, but then again people were having these same conversations in the 70's...
 

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Bismarck said:
Slarti, I think you're right. And we shouldn't forget that governments have not much possibilities to influence a phase of depression in the world economic growth. And what you say is perhaps the reason why there are no reforms done because they hurt at the beginning and when they manifest people forget about who has initiated them.

Exactly, that's why you need someone like Thatcher to come along and do what's best for the Country's future no matter how painful the short-term will be.

Of course then some prick will come along a few years later and claim the economic success she created as his own.
 

Bismarck

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Bismark I dont know what cave you just crawled out of but lets get educated real quick. Reagan never gave Saddam chemical weapons, site me legitimate examples if he did. He did support Saddam in his war against Iran because guess what, Iran was an enemy, they took over out embassy, and they took f*cking US citizens hostages... get it?

I don't know wether they were given the technology. But I'm sure that the US administration knowed that Saddam is going to use them. An evil regime is only declared to be evil if you can't so a big deal with them.



Im not for protectionism against foriegn out-sourcing of of meanial American jobs that US workers dont want anyway.What I am against is not re training American workers to keep higher paying over here. Let China make tennis shoes, but lets retrain the manufacturing sect into the high tech and health care fields and keep those jobs over here.

Unfortuanetly China is nowadays able to produce high tech products too.
 

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The German economy could probably use a Thatcher-type influence right about now.

I don't mean that from a social context.. purely from an economic context. Even the French are, at least on the face of things, starting to break up some of their more ossified economic policies.
 

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ColtsFan said:
Slarti,

great ideas, now if we can get Detroit and the politicians (rt and lft) to turn their back on the oil industry lobbyist that for so many years have given them monitary incentive to keep the status quo.

I would think nows the time, but then again people were having these same conversations in the 70's...

Being across the Atlantic my knowledge of US politics is somewhat limited but I'd rather bet on a blindfolded pig single-handedly piloting a Cessner around the World than on American politicians severing all links with the oil industry lobbyists.
 

ColtsFan

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Bismark,

Well if dont know that Reagan sold him chems. then why the hell are you spouting unfounded rhetoric? Where's the data? Shut your pie hole if you dont have evidenece of any such sales to Iraq...ok?

are you like 11 yrs old or what?
 

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The Gardener said:
The German economy could probably use a Thatcher-type influence right about now.

I don't mean that from a social context.. purely from an economic context. Even the French are, at least on the face of things, starting to break up some of their more ossified economic policies.

Hi Gardener, well I wouldn't get your hopes up too much, the French Govt. still accounts for approx. half of the nation's GDP, still pursues the policy of creating a French champion in each industry that it deems important (economics be damned), imposes damaging work related legislation, has ceded monetary control to the European Central Bank and, along with Germany, has expressed a desire to prevent the 10 new entrants to the EU from setting their Business taxes to so called unfair levels.
 
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