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I have not claimed that there are not good responders here. I believe there are, and I don't think they are lying. However, I am talking about responder/non-responder ratio. For every alleged responder we see here, there is a non-responder popping up and expressing his disappointment. Proportions and ratios are a very important thing to consider. My criticism is mostly toward the studies: they are showing us a treatment with seemingly a 100% chance of response (which in the first place was the reason of the hype) , and clearly, this has not been reproduced here.
Some dudes might come in here and say "well, if it works for SOME people, then it deserves to be hyped". My reply to that argument is NO, it shouldn't be hyped. Let's say a treatment might have a response rate of 10%, and some dudes start making a big deal about it as if it is going to work for sure. What is the outcome? The outcome is that 9 out of 10 dudes will be very disappointed, frustrated and depressed because some other dudes gave them high hopes... Only to get failure.
With this, I am not saying that needling responders are a minority (actually, we still don't have clear numbers for this trial), and also I am not saying that we SHOULD NOT try needling just because response rates are not 100%. On the contrary, I think that we all should try it, but every newcomer MUST ACKNOWLEDGE that there is a considerable chance of not getting any results at all. That is the healthiest way of jumping into a new treatment.
It's the same thing that @MeDK said, let's not make sell some potential outliers as a general statistical trend. It's irresponsible.
That said, I encourage everyone here to tell any balding dude to try needling just in case they end up being a lucky responder, but I'd tell them to expect the worst case scenario as the most probable outcome. Just in case.
Yes. I think we ALL agree. My point is if it works for SOME people... try it out!!! Heck just 25 minutes ago an Established member (Jamesdunn) posted what look to be positive results.
As I said earlier, one thing is for sure, if you don't try, or follow any of the studies to the best of your ability, it definitely won't work.