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losingbattle88

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you sound like someone who believes a vaccine can cause autism and MS. show me one study, even a case report suggesting receptors "can get crushed by dht rushing back to the receptors". this sounds totally mad. also zero, zero scientific publication on this matter and where pfs is discussed nobody talks about "damaged receptors after dht "rushing" back to the receptors".

the problem I think is that you talk like you are a world renowned researcher and as if your "theory" is scientifically secured when in fact the exact opposite is the case, there is no evidence to support this and in fact the lack of evidence and backing by renewed researchers in endocrinology and neurology kind of suggest this is not an actual thing. even pfs papers dont talk about this. in fact pfs papers talk about a different cause of it every time. there is no unified theory probably because a syndrome in that sense does not exist. that does not mean people cannot be damaged by the drug and have not been. but it means that this classic idea of a syndrome that has very specific markers is probably not a thing. also how can you have "total endocrine" crash while at the same time suggesting hormone levels are not off at all in pfs patients? thats a contradiction.

it'd be fine if you suggested this could be a thing but you seem hell certain that this is how it is, talk about it like I could read about it right now in a text book which I cannot because it is highly debated even among specialists
Yeah I read that many times on propeciahelp. Endocrine system crash is talked about alot on propeciahelp. Its a temporary crash ofc the lingering problem lays in the androgen receptors possibly. All theories tho.
 
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losingbattle88

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you sound like someone who believes a vaccine can cause autism and MS. show me one study, even a case report suggesting receptors "can get crushed by dht rushing back to the receptors". this sounds totally mad. also zero, zero scientific publication on this matter and where pfs is discussed nobody talks about "damaged receptors after dht "rushing" back to the receptors".

the problem I think is that you talk like you are a world renowned researcher and as if your "theory" is scientifically secured when in fact the exact opposite is the case, there is no evidence to support this and in fact the lack of evidence and backing by renewed researchers in endocrinology and neurology kind of suggest this is not an actual thing. even pfs papers dont talk about this. in fact pfs papers talk about a different cause of it every time. there is no unified theory probably because a syndrome in that sense does not exist. that does not mean people cannot be damaged by the drug and have not been. but it means that this classic idea of a syndrome that has very specific markers is probably not a thing. also how can you have "total endocrine" crash while at the same time suggesting hormone levels are not off at all in pfs patients? thats a contradiction.

it'd be fine if you suggested this could be a thing but you seem hell certain that this is how it is, talk about it like I could read about it right now in a text book which I cannot because it is highly debated even among specialists
I didnt even feel any pain for some minutes. Crazy sh*t. Felt something in my body shut down and I punched my door very hard many Times and felt no pain at all. Im glad you believe in this syndrome at least.
 

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I don't believe that 88 is talking dead certain. I do think he is trying to propose an explanation, which I am fine with, because he obviously tried TRT and it did not work, so there must be a reason for this. I think he makes a valid point that it is more complicated than "just do TRT bro". Sure, it might work for some, but what about for those who it does not work for?
 

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I don't believe that 88 is talking dead certain. I do think he is trying to propose an explanation, which I am fine with, because he obviously tried TRT and it did not work, so there must be a reason for this. I think he makes a valid point that it is more complicated than "just do TRT bro". Sure, it might work for some, but what about for those who it does not work for?
No i did not try trt but many did on propeciahelp with no help.
 

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No i did not try trt but many did on propeciahelp with no help.
gotcha. I am sure it can help for some people but others may not respond well. Even without ever taking finasteride or dutasteride, I am sure there are some people on TRT who have libido issues. If you are a high aromatizer, a lot of that T may turn into too high of E to where you experience side effects. Some use aromatase inhibitors and SERMs to negate these.
 

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gotcha. I am sure it can help for some people but others may not respond well. Even without ever taking finasteride or dutasteride, I am sure there are some people on TRT who have libido issues. If you are a high aromatizer, a lot of that T may turn into too high of E to where you experience side effects. Some use aromatase inhibitors and SERMs to negate these.
I read a guy get pfs from regenpure shampoo today on propeciahelp. It contains saw Palmetto and ketoconazole and u know what? I believe him. Because i crashed after stopping oral saw Palmetto. While on saw Palmetto My libido went crazy high i mean f*****g crazy high and i got alot stronger too from the T boost. Saw Palmetto does block dht 100%>
 

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I read a guy get pfs from regenpure shampoo today on propeciahelp. It contains saw Palmetto and ketoconazole and u know what? I believe him. Because i crashed after stopping oral saw Palmetto. While on saw Palmetto My libido went crazy high i mean f*****g crazy high and i got alot stronger too from the T boost. Saw Palmetto does block dht 100%>
There was a guy on here years ago who committed suicide after taking saw palmetto. Not trying to fear monger, not saying it caused it, but everything we take has a risk. Often times that risk is low, no doubt, but some times we fall into the zone which suffers. I am for raising awareness of possible sides, but at the same time I am not going to say that everyone gets them and I won't exaggerate the effects. Most guys will still be able to function normally in regards to sex on finasteride. Like Derek says though, it's still possible you can be only operating at only 95% capacity without realizing it. I think it is fair to warn guys who are interested in having children to consider stopping the drug while trying to conceive. I am not saying you cannot conceive on finasteride - obviously there are plenty who have - but it's probably good to at least consider stopping the drug so that your chances are optimized. Not only that, but obviously women should steer clear of it when planning on conceiving.
 

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I didnt even feel any pain for some minutes. Crazy sh*t. Felt something in my body shut down and I punched my door very hard many Times and felt no pain at all. Im glad you believe in this syndrome at least.
with all due respect. you did not feel any pain? that honestly ridiculous. its alway the same with people like you who report sh*t so unbelievable and totally unrealistic. if you talk to a world renowned endocrinologist about this they will tell you this is complete bullshit but you will not believe them, you will believe this is a massive medical mystery that just nobody has been able to crack. and at the end of the day this is what it needs to be. despite multiple studies and a market period of many decades there is still no scientific proof of what you are talking about. and the suggestion that a shampoo can crash your endocrine system makes this even more absurd. those shampoos do not work at all because they are not even left long enough on the head to penetrate the scalp. saw palmetto is already weak as f*** its not clear if a cream would even penetrate the skin, for a shampoo its basically impossible. there are also people who report pfs from minoxidil and that does not even affect the endocrine system. then they use studies and misinterpret their meaning and findings to support this argument that it does indeed have an effect on androgen receptors. how can this be taken seriously? let me ask you do you think if we would measure systemic impact of this regenpure shampoo that we would find ANY change? I highly doubt it. would it be enough to unleash an endocrine crash? I think its more likely that you get one just by eating shitty food tbh
 
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Again, speaking from personal experience. My labs were all within normal range and every doctor told me my issues were in my head even though I had physical problems to prove otherwise. Do what you want with my advice. All I know is I’m cured of my problems which persisted for years. Good luck.
 

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Again, speaking from personal experience. My labs were all within normal range and every doctor told me my issues were in my head even though I had physical problems to prove otherwise. Do what you want with my advice. All I know is I’m cured of my problems which persisted for years. Good luck.
so even though my hormones are exactly as they were before finasteride I should get on HRT? does that not mean something else is off? also what about hairless? mine is already extremely progressive, HRT will lead to a NW5 situation within a few months
 

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Again, speaking from personal experience. My labs were all within normal range and every doctor told me my issues were in my head even though I had physical problems to prove otherwise. Do what you want with my advice. All I know is I’m cured of my problems which persisted for years. Good luck.
U never had pfs. Just hormonal problem.
 

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so even though my hormones are exactly as they were before finasteride I should get on HRT? does that not mean something else is off? also what about hairless? mine is already extremely progressive, HRT will lead to a NW5 situation within a few months
Exactly. The Guy think trt can cure PFS. Rofl.
 

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so even though my hormones are exactly as they were before finasteride I should get on HRT? does that not mean something else is off? also what about hairless? mine is already extremely progressive, HRT will lead to a NW5 situation within a few months
I’m not telling you what to do, this is just what’s worked for me. I empathize with your situation because I was once in your shoes. If you’re not comfortable trying something different than don’t.
 
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Ok after terrible situation with oral finasteride (read that back in one of my posts), decided to microdose topical finasteride.
Dit not work for me. After some weeks ED again and brainfog.

F me. This was my last option.

Thinking of shaving now.
 

FilthyFrancis

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Ok after terrible situation with oral finasteride (read that back in one of my posts), decided to microdose topical finasteride.
Dit not work for me. After some weeks ED again and brainfog

Many of us experienced a clear accumulation, even the ones following the Mazzarella regimen.
 
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