The most Comprehensive guide to all know hairloss treatments

[Rutt]

I don't want to use it, and even if i did it seems almost no MD would perscribe it. just curious since i've seen only one case and it turned a balding ~nw3 into a metrosexual ~nw1.5

 

[Jacob]

I had forgotten about this..or maybe I or someone did post it in this thread...

AUS-131

http://www.ausiopharma.com/BusinessPages/MarketOp.html

AUS-131, through downregulation of the androgen receptor, may offer a novel approach to treatment of acne and other androgen-related disorders including hair loss.

http://www.ausiopharma.com/TechPages/Mechanism.html

Mention of clinical studies for topical use..safety etc: http://www.ausiopharma.com/TechPages/Cosmetic.html

Not much on it..but :dunno:

 

[powersam]

The list would probably be a better resource if you were to continually edit and add things to the first post, rather than having it spread out all through the thread.

 

[Jacob]

If it hasn't been mentioned already..there are those Caregen related products...I noticed they have the DermaHeal hair loss in a gel now..to be used(is my guess) with one of this ultrasound/sonic devices: http://dermahealproducts.com/dermaheal-hair loss-gel-anti-hair-loss.html

Looks like that page has been taken off the site. They do list another DermaHeal product -- is this basically the same thing?

http://dermahealproducts.com/topical-stem-c-rum-hair loss.html

This isn't the same product, but it's something new: http://dermahealproducts.com/dermaheal-hair loss-anti-hair-loss-solution.html

Quite often they have discount codes..the latest is 20SPRING for 20% off.

 

[I AM AWESOME]

Anyone know when CB/RU will get released at the earliest. Might start taking minoxidil. but will never go near a finasteride tablet. Just hope minoxidil can/will last me 2/3 years. :whistle:

 

[I AM AWESOME]

Anyone know when CB/RU will get released at the earliest. Might start taking minoxidil. but will never go near a finasteride tablet. Just hope minoxidil can/will last me 2/3 years. :whistle:

The company which own's the RU patent never released it, but you can order it from labs, members of this forum have been using it for years. Do a search for RU58841 on here.

The CB will not be released for years, but we are getting ready to order some from a lab for the first time, see the thread entitled, Getting CB-03-01.

Any ideas why RU wasn't released? I heard that apparently the company pursuing to get RU branded estimated that they weren't going to make as much money as Merck and dropped it. Any reported success here with RU?

Hmmm..... looks interesting regarding CB. Damn my Hairloss is so rapid and quick, I wish it was slow enough to wait for CB. :sobbing:

 

[Bryan]

Any ideas why RU wasn't released? I heard that apparently the company pursuing to get RU branded estimated that they weren't going to make as much money as Merck and dropped it.

I guarantee you that no company is ever going to spend hundreds of millions of $$$ just to get FDA approval for RU58841, which would obviously be a requirement for it to become a serious product to be used against male pattern baldness. Even Merck is disappointed with their sales of finasteride for that purpose!

 

[Ende]

Any ideas why RU wasn't released? I heard that apparently the company pursuing to get RU branded estimated that they weren't going to make as much money as Merck and dropped it.

I guarantee you that no company is ever going to spend hundreds of millions of $$$ just to get FDA approval for RU58841, which would obviously be a requirement for it to become a serious product to be used against male pattern baldness. Even Merck is disappointed with their sales of finasteride for that purpose!

RU58841 is never going to hit the market as a commercial product, but Cosmo is apparently starting the FDA process with CB-03-01 this year; they've stated that they intend to file an IND. However, it's not just for androgenic alopecia, but for other androgen disorders as well, such as acne, and I'm sure it'll be helpful for seborrheic dermatitis too. Apparently it's very potent, and gentle when it comes to side effects.

Propecia sales would be a lot higher if this drug didn't cause severe side effects in many users, and Proscar, nor generics were available. The sale statistics lie.

 

[Jacob]

If it hasn't been mentioned already..there are those Caregen related products...I noticed they have the DermaHeal hair loss in a gel now..to be used(is my guess) with one of this ultrasound/sonic devices: http://dermahealproducts.com/dermaheal-hair loss-gel-anti-hair-loss.html

Looks like that page has been taken off the site. They do list another DermaHeal product -- is this basically the same thing?

http://dermahealproducts.com/topical-stem-c-rum-hair loss.html

This isn't the same product, but it's something new: http://dermahealproducts.com/dermaheal-hair loss-anti-hair-loss-solution.html

Quite often they have discount codes..the latest is 20SPRING for 20% off.

Latest code for those not on their e-list...for this product only..is HL40 for 40% off. Sorry to post it here(can be moved) but didn't want someone to miss it and get po'd for not pointing it out. Leaning more towards trying it out myself now...maybe it can be made to last a long time by just using it on select areas. Will have to ask about stability once opened...

 

[TheSkunk]

This is a great thread, and thank you for all your hard work consolidating current treatments. I have to say, forget the naysayers who step into your thread, where you are providing a kind service. And F B for being a D. Some of these guys just don;t stop.

Because you are making a centralized resource, why not cut out the off-topic stuff and consolidate all the updates like you have at the beginning of your post. This is a great reference! unk:

 

[Jacob]

How about putting it on something like Wordpress..have a link in your sig to it.

 

[stoja]

I ordered tricomin and will be starting on rogaine foam or minoxidil since its a bit cheaper. What do you guys think. Also I'm really trying to stay away from any pills for health reasons.

Rogaine foam is great and adding tricomin is a good idea also, you should see some results! But you really need to do something to address androgens as well sense they are the underlying causes of Adrogenetic-Alopecia, I do undertsand that you want to avoid pills though...

hey finfighter,
In regards to anti androgens, after finasteride/dutasteride/ru/cb, what would be the next best treatment to try?

 

[KeepTheHair]

Good thread... but

you've posted so many "treatments" it's impossible to know what to try.

I am using Finas, Keto, minoxidil. What else would be my best bet to add? I am maintaining fine. Whats the best and easiest to use growth stimulant?

Thanks

 

[KeepTheHair]

I think I agree with that.

And what would be the next treatment?

Pitty that everything is so expensive...

 

[stoja]

hey finfighter,
In regards to anti androgens, after finasteride/dutasteride/ru/cb, what would be the next best treatment to try?[/quote]


Probably ASC-J9 or maybe topical spironolactone.[/quote]

Thanks for the reply finfiighter.. one more question if i may..

Aminexil, i am looking for the appropriate dosage for this. so you take it for six weeks twice a year and use it daily... how many mls do you use a day?

keep up the good work mate unk: i think i speak for everyone when i say your posts are very informative and we appreciate it.

 

[stoja]

To be honest I'm not sure of the dosing of Aminexil, you could probably use it daily if you wanted, because it's in spectral DNC minoxidil solutions, I think and, you use that daily, maybe look into the amount that they put in their products.

Hey finfighter, I have been looking into aminexil and confirmed that the treatment consists of 42 x 6ml vials to be used daily at anytime for 6 weeks, twice a year..

pretty expensive but i am hoping to find it cheap when i go to europe in a couple months.

 

[stoja]

To be honest I'm not sure of the dosing of Aminexil, you could probably use it daily if you wanted, because it's in spectral DNC minoxidil solutions, I think and, you use that daily, maybe look into the amount that they put in their products.

Hey finfighter, I have been looking into aminexil and confirmed that the treatment consists of 42 x 6ml vials to be used daily at anytime for 6 weeks, twice a year..

pretty expensive but i am hoping to find it cheap when i go to europe in a couple months.

Hey if you don't mind, could you post a link, to where you saw it for sale?

This is the site i have been looking at to buy it: http://hairloss1.introweb.nl/cgi-bin/ha ... talog/1001

also available at:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... /gaconb-20

http://www.shopbot.com.au/ps-l-oreal-pr ... 91986.html

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/KERASTASE-AM ... 3f03909007

 

[moseymoose]

To be honest I'm not sure of the dosing of Aminexil, you could probably use it daily if you wanted, because it's in spectral DNC minoxidil solutions, I think and, you use that daily, maybe look into the amount that they put in their products.

Hey finfighter, I have been looking into aminexil and confirmed that the treatment consists of 42 x 6ml vials to be used daily at anytime for 6 weeks, twice a year..

pretty expensive but i am hoping to find it cheap when i go to europe in a couple months.

Only 6 weeks in a year? Are you sure? Not a continuation of treatment daily? Is it's half life that long?

 

[stoja]

To be honest I'm not sure of the dosing of Aminexil, you could probably use it daily if you wanted, because it's in spectral DNC minoxidil solutions, I think and, you use that daily, maybe look into the amount that they put in their products.

Hey finfighter, I have been looking into aminexil and confirmed that the treatment consists of 42 x 6ml vials to be used daily at anytime for 6 weeks, twice a year..

pretty expensive but i am hoping to find it cheap when i go to europe in a couple months.

Only 6 weeks in a year? Are you sure? Not a continuation of treatment daily? Is it's half life that long?

positive.. i contacted a few suppliers and they all said the same

using aminexil twice a year and minoxidil in between is fine also

 

[moseymoose]

Only 6 weeks in a year? Are you sure? Not a continuation of treatment daily? Is it's half life that long?

positive.. i contacted a few suppliers and they all said the same

using aminexil twice a year and minoxidil in between is fine also

Is Aminexil an anti-androgen then?

Also, just some general advice guys. I'm definitely going to be buying some RU in the next coming months, probably about 3 months time, but I want something in the meantime to give me effective maintenance and possibly a little thickening of the hair I have already, I'd just be happy to maintain for the next 3 months till I can hit the RU.

So far I've looked at fluridil (Eucapil) and spironolactone cream (S5 from this site) with spironolactone being the slightly cheaper option at £84 inc express shipping, Fluridil is €112 without shipping.

And suggestions for a temporary tropical quick fix in RU's absence. Anti-androgens.