So What Are The Options If You Don't Want To Go Bald But Get Bad Sides On finasteride?

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What are my options?

I'm thinking about waiting till gyms open again and starting a low dose of finasteride. Lifting heavy might mitigate the sides and boost my androgens but right now i got real bad sides from just week on sides.

I also hated how it made me lose a lot of vascularity . I'm a bodybuilder and love having bulging veins. On finasteride, my veins dissapeared.


what should i do? Any point taking 0.25mg EOD? and maybe building it up to 0.25mg everyday?

hmmm, my right side is getting destroyed and i have general thinning but still a lot of coverage but i reckon in a year it will be worse and a year after. really want to keep what i have but my sides were really really bad. I still feel like my erections aren't as good as they were prior to finasteride . But then again, i'm not going gym as much, i'm masturbating more etc so who knows. Also i swear my penis bends more than usual now. i swear.
 

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Take 0.25 every other day and see how it works, take some zinc with it also in the morning, some d3 and some magnesium to calm your nerves down. Try to exercise in the house with your own body weight until the gyms open, search calisthenics on YouTube and do as instructed in the workout videos, you will notice a big difference in a month or two of doing it almost everyday with one day or two maximum pauses...
 

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Take 0.25 every other day and see how it works, take some zinc with it also in the morning, some d3 and some magnesium to calm your nerves down. Try to exercise in the house with your own body weight until the gyms open, search calisthenics on YouTube and do as instructed in the workout videos, you will notice a big difference in a month or two of doing it almost everyday with one day or two maximum pauses...

Thanks brother!

If i do get sides again, should i just stop, or try and just 'get through them'. Honestly feel way better already coming off finasteride.

Also, taking 0.25mg a day , what if it's not enough? i guess overtiem if i notice my hair get worse i'l ijncrease my dose?
 

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Thanks brother!

If i do get sides again, should i just stop, or try and just 'get through them'. Honestly feel way better already coming off finasteride.

Also, taking 0.25mg a day , what if it's not enough? i guess overtiem if i notice my hair get worse i'l ijncrease my dose?

You are overthinking it and it's not good for your well being. From what the official Merk graph says when he did the study for it before the FDA approval of finasteride for hair loss, ANY dose above 0.2 mg diminishes the same amount of DHT as 1mg per day, so logically, nobody needs more than 0.2 a day to achieve 70% DHT reduction.

Now for the every other day part, this came up in the last years because it seems that if you take today 1mg of finasteride, it takes 3 days without finasteride for the body to get the normal level of DHT back, plus that this is referring to the Serum DHT, the tissue one needs even more time to be completely depleted of the finasteride residues.

So, if you take 0.25 every other day, you would not only diminish the risks of side effects because of over saturating the tissues, but you will also have the same results as with 1mg every other day and it will even have a longer in time effect because of not over saturating the body with it...

Of course this is just theory based on the latest info everybody has and it's been tested with success by a lot of people, doctors, etc. It depends also on every individual, on their medical history or conditions, we are all different and nobody knows exactly how one could react differently from the other, but this is the general consensus regarding this treatment lately so try it and if it does not work this way also then you will have to take a decision based on your own life, nobody knows who you are, what you are willing to accept and how far are you willing to go to save your hair... Some cut their balls of for example, some transform into women, some go bald, some have tremendous luck just with finasteride, some with finasteride and min but i guess you know and understand these things...

Good luck and as i said, try to take some zinc with it in the morning, some D3 and magnesium, it really helps mentally to keep you calm and steady, with your mind and feet on the ground...

Here you have the graph from the Merk studies done on it's effectiveness curve and how much DHT it diminishes with every dosage...

median-percentage-change-in-serum-DHT-according-to-finasteride-dose.png
 
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Looking at your post history, you sound a lot like my uncle. He reads every side effect, every possible interaction, etc... then he ends up getting them all every time he goes on a new med. sometimes he does legitimately experience a side or two, but it’s almoay always paranoia and anxiety causing the rest.

If you can’t get out of your own head, then you’re going to have issues regardless of what medcaition you are considering. If, however, we assume this isn’t the case and you experienced, (as a result of finasteride), heart palpitations, abnormally high anxiety, erectile dysfunction, sensitive nipples, complexion/skin issues, bloating/fluid retention, and a trip down the BDD rabbit hole, etc.. then it should be pretty clear finasteride isn’t right for you.

There aren’t really any other options that can directly halt or slow hairloss, but finasteride/dutasteride doesn’t work for everyone; some don’t respond, some get sides, some have other underlying health complications. You need to think this over and decide what you are willing to accept in return for a chance at saving your hair.
 

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What are my options?

I'm thinking about waiting till gyms open again and starting a low dose of finasteride. Lifting heavy might mitigate the sides and boost my androgens but right now i got real bad sides from just week on sides.

I also hated how it made me lose a lot of vascularity . I'm a bodybuilder and love having bulging veins. On finasteride, my veins dissapeared.


what should i do? Any point taking 0.25mg EOD? and maybe building it up to 0.25mg everyday?

hmmm, my right side is getting destroyed and i have general thinning but still a lot of coverage but i reckon in a year it will be worse and a year after. really want to keep what i have but my sides were really really bad. I still feel like my erections aren't as good as they were prior to finasteride . But then again, i'm not going gym as much, i'm masturbating more etc so who knows. Also i swear my penis bends more than usual now. i swear.

Topical with minoxidil
 

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Looking at your post history, you sound a lot like my uncle. He reads every side effect, every possible interaction, etc... then he ends up getting them all every time he goes on a new med. sometimes he does legitimately experience a side or two, but it’s almoay always paranoia and anxiety causing the rest.

If you can’t get out of your own head, then you’re going to have issues regardless of what medcaition you are considering. If, however, we assume this isn’t the case and you experienced, (as a result of finasteride), heart palpitations, abnormally high anxiety, erectile dysfunction, sensitive nipples, complexion/skin issues, bloating/fluid retention, and a trip down the BDD rabbit hole, etc.. then it should be pretty clear finasteride isn’t right for you.

There aren’t really any other options that can directly halt or slow hairloss, but finasteride/dutasteride doesn’t work for everyone; some don’t respond, some get sides, some have other underlying health complications. You need to think this over and decide what you are willing to accept in return for a chance at saving your hair.


Man i swear to god my sides were real, testicular pain, weak erectons, nipple pain
how can i imagine pain in my head when it f*****g hurt
 

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Your not imagining it. Everybody's body reacts differently.
Thanks

i just don't know if i should restart again 0.5m 3x a week or 0.25 MG EOD ETC

I have no idea if this will even do anything i might go see a specialist
 

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You are overthinking it and it's not good for your well being. From what the official Merk graph says when he did the study for it before the FDA approval of finasteride for hair loss, ANY dose above 0.2 mg diminishes the same amount of DHT as 1mg per day, so logically, nobody needs more than 0.2 a day to achieve 70% DHT reduction.

Now for the every other day part, this came up in the last years because it seems that if you take today 1mg of finasteride, it takes 3 days without finasteride for the body to get the normal level of DHT back, plus that this is referring to the Serum DHT, the tissue one needs even more time to be completely depleted of the finasteride residues.

So, if you take 0.25 every other day, you would not only diminish the risks of side effects because of over saturating the tissues, but you will also have the same results as with 1mg every other day and it will even have a longer in time effect because of not over saturating the body with it...

Of course this is just theory based on the latest info everybody has and it's been tested with success by a lot of people, doctors, etc. It depends also on every individual, on their medical history or conditions, we are all different and nobody knows exactly how one could react differently from the other, but this is the general consensus regarding this treatment lately so try it and if it does not work this way also then you will have to take a decision based on your own life, nobody knows who you are, what you are willing to accept and how far are you willing to go to save your hair... Some cut their balls of for example, some transform into women, some go bald, some have tremendous luck just with finasteride, some with finasteride and min but i guess you know and understand these things...

Good luck and as i said, try to take some zinc with it in the morning, some D3 and magnesium, it really helps mentally to keep you calm and steady, with your mind and feet on the ground...

Here you have the graph from the Merk studies done on it's effectiveness curve and how much DHT it diminishes with every dosage...

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wait so if 0.25mg works the same as 1mg, then why the recommended dosage on the drug is 1mg every day and not 0.25? why not everyone just take 0.25mg?
 

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You are overthinking it and it's not good for your well being. From what the official Merk graph says when he did the study for it before the FDA approval of finasteride for hair loss, ANY dose above 0.2 mg diminishes the same amount of DHT as 1mg per day, so logically, nobody needs more than 0.2 a day to achieve 70% DHT reduction.

Now for the every other day part, this came up in the last years because it seems that if you take today 1mg of finasteride, it takes 3 days without finasteride for the body to get the normal level of DHT back, plus that this is referring to the Serum DHT, the tissue one needs even more time to be completely depleted of the finasteride residues.

So, if you take 0.25 every other day, you would not only diminish the risks of side effects because of over saturating the tissues, but you will also have the same results as with 1mg every other day and it will even have a longer in time effect because of not over saturating the body with it...

Of course this is just theory based on the latest info everybody has and it's been tested with success by a lot of people, doctors, etc. It depends also on every individual, on their medical history or conditions, we are all different and nobody knows exactly how one could react differently from the other, but this is the general consensus regarding this treatment lately so try it and if it does not work this way also then you will have to take a decision based on your own life, nobody knows who you are, what you are willing to accept and how far are you willing to go to save your hair... Some cut their balls of for example, some transform into women, some go bald, some have tremendous luck just with finasteride, some with finasteride and min but i guess you know and understand these things...

Good luck and as i said, try to take some zinc with it in the morning, some D3 and magnesium, it really helps mentally to keep you calm and steady, with your mind and feet on the ground...

Here you have the graph from the Merk studies done on it's effectiveness curve and how much DHT it diminishes with every dosage...

View attachment 141732


bro theres no way 0.25mg EOD would be effective?
 

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If you're really getting bad sides on finasteride(rare, but it happens) then I'm sorry to say you don't have a lot of other options. You could try a topical AA like RU or CB., or you could try estriol.


Thanks,

i started again today 0.25mg. Slight ball ache but otherwise fine hmm not sure if i should do 0.25mg twice a week and maybe build up? Such a hard thing to guage because in 6-12 months my hair could be a lot worse and i could be kicking myself for not taking more finasteride. hmm

According to the thread the guy maintianed on 0.25mg twice a week. Might do that fr a few months. How can i know if it's even effective? if there's less shedding? Any other signs?
 

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There is no point, if you can't handle finasteride then you are pretty much fucked, the only other things you can try are RU or CB but neither is as effective as finasteride. You will just have to decide whether sides or your hair is more important to you ultimately, either that or go bald.
 

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Thanks,

i started again today 0.25mg. Slight ball ache but otherwise fine hmm not sure if i should do 0.25mg twice a week and maybe build up? Such a hard thing to guage because in 6-12 months my hair could be a lot worse and i could be kicking myself for not taking more finasteride. hmm

According to the thread the guy maintianed on 0.25mg twice a week. Might do that fr a few months. How can i know if it's even effective? if there's less shedding? Any other signs?

I doubt maintaining had much of anything to do with that. That's equivalent to around .05mg/day which was shown to be no better than placebo in reducing DHT. You need to use at least .25mg eod to have any effect. The ball ache goes away for most people.
 

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Thanks,

i started again today 0.25mg. Slight ball ache but otherwise fine hmm not sure if i should do 0.25mg twice a week and maybe build up? Such a hard thing to guage because in 6-12 months my hair could be a lot worse and i could be kicking myself for not taking more finasteride. hmm

According to the thread the guy maintianed on 0.25mg twice a week. Might do that fr a few months. How can i know if it's even effective? if there's less shedding? Any other signs?

If you experience side effects at the normal finasteride dosage but want to try it again, the focus should not be on 'will it work for my hair?' but 'how much finasteride can my body tolerate?'. Therefore, you should start as low as you can and very very slowly increase it from there. Better to have delayed/suboptimal results from finasteride than having to quit completely for good (for your hair that is).
 
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