Possible Early Signs Of Temple Regrowth (pics)

Dehydrotestostewronged

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Update time.

So this is some point now in year 3 of my "experiment."

Still doing everything mentioned previously including the additions of the zinc shampoo and conversion to derminator 2 vs manual microneedling. I forget when but Im pretty sure I also documented I take collagen powder as well.

I also recently decided to take 2 servings of saw palmetto (pill) as well as begin using pura'dor gold label shampoo daily whereas I alternate the nizoral and zinc shampoo throughout the week. Neither of these have been done long enough to take credit for the following images. The shampoo maybe for a week and the saw palmetto literally just today.

My reasoning is that since I am already on finasteride I can dose a little saw palmetto to mitigate my DHT conversion a little more for what its worth, but then what remains and is present in my scalp Im hoping can be locally targetted by the pura'dor shampoo.

Why do I think this may be worthwhile?

Well I was thinking about how vellus hairs dont turn terminal on boys regarding their beards etc until DHT is sufficiently present and this signals the vellus hairs to go terminal. Since DHT is an inhibiting piece of sh*t on head hair follicles for those of us with genetic sensitivities to it, I figure that if I can sufficiently wipe enough DHT out of my scalp, first systemically, and second locally, my intuition is that this will create an ideal environment for the vellus follicles to fully mature. Right now theyre taking years to become what you now see—very fine, very blonde peach fuzz, almost like how my hair was when I was a baby and then a boy... Its a very slow recapitulation process. The cool thing is the pictures dont do the mirror in justice. Im hoping that in the next year or two that the fine blonde hairs will become fully terminal. Part of me suspects they will remain strangely blonde as my hair slowly darkened over my entire childhood, but the length, volume, density, and texture is what Im monitoring.
 

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Doesn’t hair turn lighter/blonde when it’s dying in miniaturisation
 

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Doesn’t hair turn lighter/blonde when it’s dying in miniaturisation
Maybe? But this hair wasnt even there a few months ago. Its reversing the process. Vellus hair is usually colorless or light. My hair as a child was blonde and gradually darkened with age. I remember in fifth grade some kids accused me of dying my hair because the tips were distinctively blonde whereas the rest of it had gotten dirtier and dirtier blonder. The temples eventually darkened in my teens before betraying me in my early earlish to mid twenties.

On another side note I know I had a couple random greys years ago when I lost those hairs, and my beard is becoming quite grey... I do NOT expect any matured hairs that I have regrown to become grey for an indeterminate amount of time.
 
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A strange observation about temple regrowth is that it isnt uniform... The receding hairline UN-cedes from the perimeter back to the center like an onion in layers. You can even see how the hair gradually gets thicker where its been regrown with the newest hairs becoming less and less visible like strata in rock. The center of my temple is the least represented by regrowth, but the outline of the hair line gets reborn in waves. And if its not already evident, the redness is the footprint of where I microneedle, based off of drawing a line from widows peak to opposite side temple.
 

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One of the best threads on this site btw. Consistent, methodical, etc.
Thanks. I was inspired by a few threads on here when I began so I wanted to return the favor to other guys who may not feel it more than a pipe-dream to regain significant ground.

My consistency is born from the attitude from the beginning that I was gonna stick to this for one year no matter what. Just do the process and then revisit from there. I have been incredibly consistent and I did it because I crucified the attachment to outcomes. You got to learn to love the process.

If you check my pictures you can see the redness of my skin. This is where I microneedle biweekly. I overkill it to ensure I have triggered the biological response. If you check older posts youll see an extremely bloody series of images. Those were done with manual dermal pens stamps. I never get very bloody anymore, though I may a little tiny bit. The derminator 2 is very nice and much much quicker and less painful. I recommend it.
 

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I needle the sh*t out of my temples and the crown by the way. I suspect my crown is sufficient in terms of hair volume individual hair density is the problem) but I believe its good to generate blood flow and potentially break up tissue that may impair regrowth so I still do it.
 

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It can be mixed together, yes.
I dont have time at the moment to read it in depth. Is there a certain frequency or dosing protocol they outlined?

Also of minor concern is bio-absorbability considering all the shampoos and minoxidil (foam.) Is there a reason to worry that some of the stuff Im doing would compete with it for absorption? I would assume the affects/gains of azelaic acid would be therpeatic and of a more permanent nature as a growth modifier/stimulant/accelerator, thus would necessitate only temporary application (unlike minoxidil which is applied indefinitely)
 

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Just dropping an update.

Same regimen as previously stated, only I have completely stopped microneedling for several months due to laziness and preoccupations. I'll resume that again in the future.

I wanted to benchmark the current level of progress because I have finally decided to experiment with RU-58841. I want to see if the addition of topical androgen blockers in tandem with systemic finasteride, topical minoxidil, and the stimulation of microneedling might do the trick to push my gainz into the healthy terminal realm. Other than adding a topical estrogen Im not sure what else can be done to coax regrowth and rethickening and I'm financially and as a matter of principle unwilling to introduce estrogens---topical or otherwise---into my system at this point.


Some things to note:

Camera for whatever reason does a shitty job compared to real time mirror in terms of showing the hair quality. It looks better looking in mirrors than what is caught on the image. Hence the overabundance of images. I think overhead lighting contributed to this issue.

Also I hypothesized the hair would regrow blonde. I have been right. Thin blonde hair with good density. I just need the hairs to individually mature.

Hopefully RU-58841 puts the final nail in the coffin.
 

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Got my RU today. Will start Fri or Sat.

I'd be grateful to know if anyone has insight into best way to apply RU particularly concerns around it competing with minoxidil for absorption.
 

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