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no s.a.f I am not a gigolo,Im just a horny bald guy who cant get laid lol
She knows what she wants. She wants the best of both worlds: you buying her dinner and good times, and his body. No indecisiveness here at all.
Regarding why I’m not with the one who wants me, there are two reasons:Then why aren't you still with her?
HT55 said:Hey Peter, haven't seen you since the old days on HLH when I ws banned for questioning Armani, seems like I was right as he has been exposed on the HTN
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after reading this post I'm not sure if you are the same Peter from HLH who was a hair transplant tech, let me know
I think getting a hair transplant or hairpiece is like getting high,its a social taboo,but a lot of people do it and like it, the ideal is, is that you should feel good without it, but feel better with it. Its your own personal choice, but as long as your hair transplant or hairpiece dont negativly affect you or the ones around you it should be considered as a good thing,sure a lot of negative things could be said, but that goes for alot of things,all people that have a hair transplant or hairpiece should think positive and those that dont should too ideally, just a thought.
Peter_mac said:Hairpiece is a social taboo, yes, but hair transplant not.
s.a.f said:But even so I think that a hair transplant is about as socially acceptable as penis enlargement surgery, as long as its not your problem its viewed as pretty pathetic, we men are just supposed to deal with what nature gave us, anything else is insecurity or vanity and they are not masculine traits.
That is not a compliment. She is manipulating you, making you think you have scored points and have a lot to loose, and can keep scoring points if you say something like,You are the best guy ever! All the rest try to get in my pants, but you are a real gentlemen and get the door for me and buy me dinner!
, and then buy her more stuff and don't put moves on her.Yeah, I don't know why those guys are like that. Such jerks. I'm nothing like them.
This forces her to end her game right there, or leave the door open. Most likely, she will answer with voice tone, and a question, trying to get you to be the one who must decide whether to risk losing her.You don't want me in your pants?
, and then buy her more stuff and don't put moves on her.[/quote:1dh3vf34]CCS said:OK, this is off topic, but:
If a woman you are dating says,
That is not a compliment. She is manipulating you, making you think you have scored points and have a lot to loose, and can keep scoring points if you say something like,You are the best guy ever! All the rest try to get in my pants, but you are a real gentlemen and get the door for me and buy me dinner!
[quote:1dh3vf34]Yeah, I don't know why those guys are like that. Such jerks. I'm nothing like them.
Peter_mac said:Even though the lines we used were a bit different, this is more or less what went on with me and that girl.
You need to understand though that I wasn’t up her standards in terms of looks. It was a compromise for her, and I needed to compensate (if I acted like those other guys she dated, who treat her like they can find 10 like her in a heartbeat, she really had no reason whatsoever to stay with me). Maybe it was doomed for failure right from the start, but I couldn’t let it pass without trying.
Not all girls are like that though, some girls do appreciate good qualities in the man (other than looks), and can compromise somewhat on looks. I thought she was one of them, but was wrong. I took a gamble and lost. I don’t care about the money and time I spent, I do care about my feelings that got hammered, and the fact that 10 days after I dropped all connections with her, she's still too much in my thoughts. I wish I could erase her from my memories, I want my life back.
I have to agree you are doing a very good job of understanding my situation.I predicted every word you wrote.
So true. I already analyzed the situation and came to a conclusion she will not change her mind, damn it she has a new boyfriend, she’s probably sleeping with him as we speak, not giving a second thought of what happened between us. I know all this, yet the thought us together keeps jumping to my mind, this is so fucked up !!!The reason you don't want to erase her is because you are imagining what it would be like if she DID like you, instead of not like you. The thought is to wonderful to let go of.
She did both…Women make you fall in love when they get your hopes up, not when they get your dick up.
Wow, if she did this on purpose I will be stunned. I hate to think that she did it on purpose. On one hand this might be good for me to think this, because maybe finally I could start hating her for having such a lousy character, which will help me get over this, but on the other hand, I have to work with her (very closely) in about two weeks from now, I don’t want to hate her, how could I work with her then ?A really smart move they make is buying you dinner once or twice so you think they actually like being with you and don't need to be bribed; then you really don't want to blow it, and can't say no to them later.
Yes I guess you are right. Simply from meeting to meeting she gave me the impression it’s going to happen. Every meeting she added another thing that made me think this way. For example, two meetings before the end, she wanted me inside her bed when we watched TV, right next to her. I guess if she wanted something to happen it would have happened right then, unless she thought I should initate something, that’s what I told myself, until at the end I’ve learned she already had her new boyfriend at that time… Then at our last meeting (when she told me about her new boyfriend, and told me he treats her bad and she wants to leave him), she danced with me real close, people were sure she’s my girlfriend. I don’t understand, she was “selling†herself to me just so she could keep me as a friend to give her good time and help her ?, this was the last thing I thought of her when we were together.Who she wants sex with is who rates higher. If she does not want you after 7 quality hours with you, she has told you her decision.
True, and because they stay home and don’t meet other people, once they do meet someone they like, they won’t dump fast enough. This is me.Men and women wonder why the spend so much time suffering with bad matches. The answer is they don't dump them fast enough. And when they do, they stay home and don't meet other people.
Even though this is not my nature, I agree. This is the better strategy by far.You got to stop being so afraid of single and sexless. You get a lot better from people if you don't need them. When you need something from them, you are unhappy until you get it, and they have power, and they sense you are just around them for that need, so it hurts the relationship. You just got to drop the neediness, and be willing to see other people until one of them shows genuine interest.
This is exactly what she wanted from me. Everytime we said goodbye to each other (whether on the phone or in person) she told me call me later today. When I called her later, when we finished she said call me later today. She wanted me all the time to be around her, yet she didn’t want to commit to me. She can’t be such a good person I guess.If a woman wants you to commit to her when she does not want to commit to you, run the other way. She is a horrible person.
I don’t know if I can or can’t get anyone decent, I need to get out more and search more. The thing is, I hate to have the lower hand. This is all a game, and I know that I can look much better, and hence be much better at the game. I have decided to become a better player over this next year, but in order to change the things needed to be changed (and the wig is just one of them), I need to do things that will make dating really impossible this year (with anyone half decent). I just don’t want this year to be a long remorse over that lousy girl… (which I'm forced to see at least until July !!!)If you just can't get anyone decent, then improve yourself somehow.
I say get the piece, get muscles, get a job, and get an 8 who knows her place and wants to settle down and fall in love with you... don't waste your emotion on people, but get out and learn a little and don't take my word for it.
Peter_mac said:Thinking of going this route, I find myself spending more and more time thinking why is there such a negative attitude in our society against the notion of wearing hair.
The first reason for the negative attitude (that I am going to discredit) which is very popular in this subforum, goes along the following lines: balding guys who choose to wear hair to cover the problem, are pathetic, insecure, lack self confidence, and not men enough to accept mother nature’s decisions with dignity. The advocators of this reason (who are very vocal on this subforum), continue and say that what women hate the most, is seeing such lack of self confidence in a man, as being shown by someone who dare to hide his hair problem, instead of accepting it, and showing it for all public to see without a hint of shame or regret. These advocators continue and say that hiding the hair problem with a wig will solve nothing, because the problem is totally within the balding guy’s mind, and once he will solve his insecurity problem, then lack of hair will not keep him from getting what he wants (no matter how bad a balding head makes him look).
At first glance, this reason seems legitimate, yes, it surely makes sense, if this is the reason why society has bad attitude against people who wear hair, maybe we have hope for our society for seeing things so wisely. But sadly, in reality, this reason doesn’t have legitimacy. Firstly, society in general treat balding guys as second grade people in some manners (and I won’t get into this, see no reason) so while it’s true that self confidence can take you a long way, there are still things it won’t get you, for which you need to simply be more attractive. Second, the *double standards* issue - simply visit the hair transplant forums (here and on other websites), why isn’t this same reason (lack of self confidence, etc) being shouted there as it is being shouted in the wigs forums ?. A guy who choose to go through hair transplant, with all due respect (playing the devil’s advocate here), is pathetic, insecure, lack self confidence, and not man enough to accept mother nature’s decisions with dignity. It is not impossible to tell someone had gone through hair transplant, you just need to know where and what to look for, so why women aren’t searching for that to eliminate all the guys who went through hair transplant, I thought self confidence is important to them… ?.
A guy who contemplates going through hair transplant, is just as “bad†as the one who contemplates to solve the problem by wearing hair. STILL, I can see men openly talking about getting hair transplant, and the general feeling around these talks is that it’s cool that they want to look better, and that it is nice to see men who are bothered by aesthetics (in contrast to those guys who don’t care how they look, and just sit on the couch fat, bald and unattractive).
The more I think of it, it seems to me that the real problem society has with wigs, is the following (and I’m going to be harsh to make the point, sorry): by choosing to go with a wig, society take that you are making the following statement: “I am smarter than you, I can fool you to believe anything I want, and you’ll accept it, because you are dumb, or at least have less IQ than me, you thought what I show you is real ?, in your face idiot !, and remember, you ate it only because you are dumb, if you had half a brain, you could have seen that it is a wig and not real hair. I could have gone through an hair transplant and look like I never got bald, but why, when most of the people in the world are as dumb as you, I can simply save my money. I am simply a cheap, dishonest person, and because you are dumb you fell for my liesâ€.
Now, you could theoretically solve this problem, by telling everyone that you wear hair (and explain the reason why hair transplant couldn’t be an option in your case). For those who can do it it’s great, but you really need a thick elephant skin, and preferably be married. The problem is that there are a lot of mean people around us, and it might backfire on you eventually (jokes, etc.). Also, even if there are no jokes, you can’t greet anyone you meet (like some cool girl you met or who knows) with the line “hello my name is baldy and I wear hair, I did it because aesthetics are important for me and I look much better with hair, I didn’t have hair transplant not because I’m cheap or I think you’re stupid, I simply don’t have enough donor area, in the future I will definitely get HM thoughâ€, sorry, but that’s the only way you’ll never “scam†people…
My thoughts are that if you choose to go with the hiding strategy, society will accept the wig as a much more legitimate solution, assuming the following will be true:
1. The wig must look flawless. Extra care should be taken that the hair will be indistinguishable from real hair (and today this seems to be possible, in sharp contrast to the past). If this is done, then even if you decide to tell someone the truth (or they learn somehow), they won’t feel as stupid, since it really looks like real hair, and nobody could ever tell the difference. You didn’t try to disrespect their intelligence.
2. The guy who wear hair should not make the hair his strongest (or one of his strongest) selling points, attractiveness wise. He needs to keep a very good look, work out, stay thin, dress well, smell well, etc. The haircut should be decent, it should say “I’m not bald, I have decent hair, but don’t base your thoughts of how attractive I am mainly by looking at my hair, it’s nothing out of the ordinary, except for the fact that it exist to frame my face, and doesn’t subtract points of my total appearanceâ€. If this is done, then even if someone finds out your secret, it should largely reduce the “I’m dishonest†factor.