Other options besides finasteride?

[hmplbb]

I've been taking finasteride 1.25 mg, nizoral 2%, and rogaine for a few months and I'm noticing results. However, I do have some side effects on the finasteride.

Would it be possible to get good results just on nizoral and rogaine? Are there any other safe, effective options?

 

[Nickel]

I've been taking finasteride 1.25 mg, nizoral 2%, and rogaine for a few months and I'm noticing results. However, I do have some side effects on the finasteride.

Would it be possible to get good results just on nizoral and rogaine? Are there any other safe, effective options?

There is no medicine effective as finasteride, there are some alternatives like topical spirolactone and saw palmetto but this two are hairwise not as good.

You can always try lowering the dosage, considering that 1.25mg is quite high.

 

[Bryan]

You could try Proxiphen, although it's expensive. Dr. Proctor says it's more effective than Propecia.

 

[G k]

Lower the dosage.

I got pretty bad sides from .5mg

I stuck to it and consistently lowered the dose.

I now take .16mg (1/6th tablet), and the hair is still coming in and it really seems no different than .5mg...Other than the sides are n0n existent now.

I wouldn't of thought such a low dose to be effective, but I saw another thread of a user who grew back major hair on just 1/6th.

It doesn't have to be all or nothing with this drug, and I believe that the standard 1mg dose can cause a hormonal storm in your system.

Just keep on lowering the dose til you find something comfortable, but dont give it up or you will lose your hair. I experienced a major shed after just a few days from being off of propecia.

I hope this helps.

 

[hmplbb]

Thanks guys, I'll lower the dosage and see how it goes.

Now, how in the hell do you successfully cut a pill into 6 pieces? They already seem to crumble and be a little uneven cutting it into quarters.

 

[Fender89]

You could try Proxiphen, although it's expensive. Dr. Proctor says it's more effective than Propecia.

yes, he would say that lol xD

 

[Bryan]

I now take .16mg (1/6th tablet), and the hair is still coming in and it really seems no different than .5mg...Other than the sides are n0n existent now.

A famous early study of finasteride with humans showed that a daily dose of 0.04 mg was the minimum amount (out of all the doses they actually tested, of course) to significantly lower blood levels of DHT. The lower doses had no significant effect on blood levels of DHT.

It doesn't have to be all or nothing with this drug, and I believe that the standard 1mg dose can cause a hormonal storm in your system.

A "hormonal storm"? Are you aware of the early testing in which human volunteers took as much as 80 mg of finasteride every day for a few months, without any problems?

 

[Bryan]

You could try Proxiphen, although it's expensive. Dr. Proctor says it's more effective than Propecia.

yes, he would say that lol xD

{shrug}

Dr. Proctor is both an MD and a PhD, and has been researching hair loss for 20-30 years. I tend to believe what he says, and trust his judgement.

 

[GeminiX]

What about Avodart / Dutasteride?

Now I think about it, I hardly ever see anyone mention dutasteride anymore, have I missed something?

 

[G k]

I now take .16mg (1/6th tablet), and the hair is still coming in and it really seems no different than .5mg...Other than the sides are n0n existent now.

A famous early study of finasteride with humans showed that a daily dose of 0.04 mg was the minimum amount (out of all the doses they actually tested, of course) to significantly lower blood levels of DHT. The lower doses had no significant effect on blood levels of DHT.

[quote="G k":3ed25v5b]It doesn't have to be all or nothing with this drug, and I believe that the standard 1mg dose can cause a hormonal storm in your system.

A "hormonal storm"? Are you aware of the early testing in which human volunteers took as much as 80 mg of finasteride every day for a few months, without any problems? [/quote:3ed25v5b]

Well I am aware of many studies that make it appear perfectly safe.

I am just describing how it felt for me. I think its a very strong hormone altering drug that has feminizing effects on men, in many cases. I'm sure merk's control group were all fine tho

 

[dougfunny]

You could try Proxiphen, although it's expensive. Dr. Proctor says it's more effective than Propecia.

yes, he would say that lol xD

{shrug}

Dr. Proctor is both an MD and a PhD, and has been researching hair loss for 20-30 years. I tend to believe what he says, and trust his judgement.

You do realize that it is possible to be a scam artist and hold an MD and a PhD. In fact there is nothing unusual about this combination.

 

[GeminiX]

You do realize that it is possible to be a scam artist and hold an MD and a PhD. In fact there is nothing unusual about this combination.

It's a sad fact that there is so much truth right there

 

[Hoppi]

I am starting to think that in many people (particularly those under 35) pattern baldness can be controlled, stopped or reversed by dietary and lifestyle changes

I'll let you know how I get on! Basically, it's about lowering your insulin and IGF-1. This has a knock-on effect on your SHBG, which has a knock-on effect on your sex hormones. There are possibly even other "pathways" that this influences hair loss through, I'm not sure.

But I'll try my new improved regimen and find out!

 

[avodartdrew]

I have been taking avodart for 4 months with no side effects. I documented the entire process on my blog.

http://www.theavodartexperiment.com

I cover every part of my experience from how I ordered it and how it is effecting my hair loss.

I would say the greatest benefit so far is that it has completely stopped my hairloss (with an exception of one recent "shed")

I would also say that about 10 - 20% of the hair that I lost has grown back. Mainly in my hair line area, but some recently in the crown. Not bad for 4 months in.

 

[Jacob]

You could try Proxiphen, although it's expensive. Dr. Proctor says it's more effective than Propecia.

And yet there's no proof for that. If anyone said something like that about anything else..you'd be all over them :shakehead:

 

[Bryan]

You could try Proxiphen, although it's expensive. Dr. Proctor says it's more effective than Propecia.

And yet there's no proof for that. If anyone said something like that about anything else..you'd be all over them :shakehead:

I don't know why you made either one of those two odd statements. I don't agree with Dr. Proctor on everything he says (I've actually mentioned a few technical issues I've disagreed with him about), but when he says that in his own clinical evaluation, Proxiphen is more effective than Propecia, I have no particular reason to doubt his judgement.

 

[Jacob]

And I don't understand your odd statements. Anyone can say anything. There's nothing odd about saying there's no proof for your statement. Just as there's no proof for Dr. P's statement that his product works better than any other agent out there. That's the kind of nonsense you hear/read from questionable companies.

 

[Bryan]

And I don't understand your odd statements. Anyone can say anything. There's nothing odd about saying there's no proof for your statement.

Suppose you went to your local doctor for some infection you had, and he mentioned that he had a choice between drug A and drug B to give you; then he told you, "In my clinical experience, drug A has been more effective than drug B for your condition."

Would you smart-off to him and say "You have no proof for your statement!"?

Just as there's no proof for Dr. P's statement that his product works better than any other agent out there. That's the kind of nonsense you hear/read from questionable companies.

I agree that I'd find that specific statement to be rather more dubious; but that's NOT what we were talking about, is it?

The specific claim we were talking about is this: Proxiphen is more effective than Propecia. And I find THAT claim quite believable.

 

[Jacob]

Suppose you went to your local doctor for some infection you had, and he mentioned that he had a choice between drug A and drug B to give you; then he told you, "In my clinical experience, drug A has been more effective than drug B for your condition."

Would you smart-off to him and say "You have no proof for your statement!"?

No, but I may ask him if he does have any proof. Especially IF HE'S SELLING IT. In this case..he's not only selling it..it's his product!

 

[DoctorHouse]

I thought Dr P believes Proxiphen can be just effective as Propecia. Another words, Proxiphen can be a stand alone treatment to fight hair loss without having to rely on taking Propecia. He also said he noticed those people that did not respond to conventional hair loss treatments like Propecia or minoxidil, responded better to Proxiphen. So in those cases, you can conclude that Dr P observed Proxiphen is more effective than Propecia or minoxidil in his OWN clinical practice which does not include patients treated by him without him observing the results first hand. I would definitely have faith in a doctor who has dedicated his whole life to hair loss and pharmacology with dozens of patents versus Mr Peter Lamas, Jacob..... :whistle: ( I mean that in a playful tone Jacob)