Do you gets sides from estrogel or nothing
My Zix Experience - How B6 And Zinc Have Saved My Hair
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If I use too much i do.
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Does revivogen can give u sides ?
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On the Italian forum there are few people with gyno from finasteride, me one of these.
Merck said it was 0.4-1%, I think.
Been using Zix for about 6 months twice a day, maybe longer not sure when I started. same brands as worm posted. ~10 mL everclear and the rest distilled water. 2x 220 mg zinc and 1x b5 per bottle
So far, no real effect on hair. Still shedding at the same rate, although my scalp isn't as oily and doesn't get itchy anymore. I've been putting too much on.. probably 4 mL per application. I'm gonna bring that down to 1 or 2 mL and apply it the way others have in this thread, by parting the hair in thinning areas.
With these changes I'll keep on for another 4 months or so, but if my hair keeps shedding I'm going to move on. I'll update then
So far, no real effect on hair. Still shedding at the same rate, although my scalp isn't as oily and doesn't get itchy anymore. I've been putting too much on.. probably 4 mL per application. I'm gonna bring that down to 1 or 2 mL and apply it the way others have in this thread, by parting the hair in thinning areas.
With these changes I'll keep on for another 4 months or so, but if my hair keeps shedding I'm going to move on. I'll update then
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You are using just 1 pill B6 you need at least 3 pills?
Imo I believe zix works with better efficacy in a combo like zix+dermaroller, zix+minoxidil than zix alone
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Yes, worm says 150 mgs of b6 p5p so that would be 3 pills of https://www.amazon.com/Pure-Encapsulations-Activated-Metabolism-Carbohydrates/dp/B001WUTBBQ/ @vandum3
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Do you microneedle on the days you apply zix?
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There is a lot of things more interesting than arginine, like taurine, l carnitine l tartrate, melatonin and caffeine
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Yeah i saw this studyNo, those things are not interesting and have been tried many times already.
Arginine in combination with zinc is something new I've not seen anywhere being done. And the study looks promising.
A new combination of molecules for the treatment of androgenetic alopecia and telogen effluvium: a double-blind randomized, monocentric, placebo-controlled study - PubMed
Based on our results, the combination of arginine and zinc tested in our study could represent a good therapeutic option for the treatment of Androgenetic Alopecia and Telogen Effluvium and it might represent a valid alternative to finasteride.pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
There are a lot of guys getting instant results with topical melatonin. Melatonin is a strong cox2 inhibitor. Will try it very soon with a lot of other things. Maybe i will add arginine too
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Topical Melatonin for Treatment of Androgenetic Alopecia
In the search for alternative agents to oral finasteride and topical minoxidil for the treatment of androgenetic alopecia (Androgenetic Alopecia), melatonin, a potent antioxidant and growth modulator, was identified as a promising candidate based on in vitro and in vivo ...
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I did some research on melatonin, it inhibits Cox-2 without affecting Cox-1. Imo reducing cox2 without touching Cox-1 is the key.
Anti-inflammatory actions of melatonin and its metabolites, N1-acetyl-N2-formyl-5-methoxykynuramine (AFMK) and N1-acetyl-5-methoxykynuramine (AMK), in macrophages - PubMed
Inflammation is a complex phenomenon involving multiple cellular and molecular interactions which must be tightly regulated. Cyclooxygenase-2 (COX) is the key enzyme that catalyzes the two sequential steps in the biosynthesis of PGs from arachidonic acid. The inducible isoform of COX, namely...
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What is your arginine dosage? The study does not mention it.No, those things are not interesting and have been tried many times already.
Arginine in combination with zinc is something new I've not seen anywhere being done. And the study looks promising.
A new combination of molecules for the treatment of androgenetic alopecia and telogen effluvium: a double-blind randomized, monocentric, placebo-controlled study - PubMed
Based on our results, the combination of arginine and zinc tested in our study could represent a good therapeutic option for the treatment of Androgenetic Alopecia and Telogen Effluvium and it might represent a valid alternative to finasteride.
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Me too. Thank you for the information !
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I put +1g of L-Arginine in Zix. After a few days of use, I can tell Zix with L-arginine feels noticeable more soothing on scalp. Way too early to say if it helps with hair loss but it makes scalp feel better at least.
Pigeon do we need a chemistry minded person to tell us the consequences of adding argenine to the two ingredients in zix? Could they be unstable after a period? I mix zix with distilled water only.
re melatonin, I purchased some topical spray for this a while back but it was expensive compared to tablets and went fast as coverage was difficult… what are people doing for this I’m curious? I can’t remember if it’s soluble I’m water or if it would be stable for any duration after mixing. I’ll look up just wondering out loud
Thanks man, hope to hear back soon regarding results, I suppose I’ll follow suit. Regarding melatonin, dose is tricky we should start a new thread regarding it.
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I stopped using dermaroller
Now I do this combo first I put Zix 2ml topical and wait to dry afterwards 30 minutes to 1 hour I put Minoxidil 1ml and again I wait to dry and put Ketoconazole topical 1ml and 30 minutes afterwards I massage my scalp 5-10 minutes.
Arginine is a non-essential amino acid and can be produced by the human body on its own, it is not enough to synthesize it by the body when it is stressed or sick. The human body’s daily arginine requirement is 117 mg/kg, which is 7.02 g per day based on a weight of 60 kg. However, according to research findings, the average person’s diet can only consume 5.4 g of arginine per day. Amino acid is not enough for the daily requirement. Therefore, it is necessary to consume foods rich in arginine or health products. Foods rich in arginine include beef, eel, catfish, loach, sea cucumber, cuttlefish, octopus, etc.
Oh crap, you guys are right. Can't believe I missed that lol. Well, time to give it another shot
I have been dermaneedling with the derminator 2, not sure if it is doing much alone as I continue to shed
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Is this the first in-vivo study of something similar to Zix?No, those things are not interesting and have been tried many times already.
Arginine in combination with zinc is something new I've not seen anywhere being done. And the study looks promising.
A new combination of molecules for the treatment of androgenetic alopecia and telogen effluvium: a double-blind randomized, monocentric, placebo-controlled study - PubMed
Based on our results, the combination of arginine and zinc tested in our study could represent a good therapeutic option for the treatment of Androgenetic Alopecia and Telogen Effluvium and it might represent a valid alternative to finasteride.