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My current condition is:
Norwood I or II, more closer to II I would say. Slowly receding hairling in the last 7-8 months. I had already some small receding hairline in my temples for a few years (since I was 27-28, I'm 34), but very very slow advance, but in this last year almost and particularly last 4-5 months I can really and easily show from one picture to another that there has been some receding.
And especially in the last 2-3 months I'm losing more hair last with appreciable receding in hairline sadly, yes, and also shedding more (more than ever) and have had itchy scalp from time to time (not every day, not every time) for the previous 2-3 months too. So I decided I had to do something.
What I tried so far:
1-Zix: total fail. Made my hair worse. I was very naive to think that Zinc sulphate would be the cure to my problems just cause some experiment in the 80s with cells seemed to work omg haha
2-Regenepure DR shampoo: Moderate success with more use needed. I used it for a couple weeks and it helped with itchiness, but did not complitely solved it. I think it helped a bit with shedding too but it was too early to tell.
What I'm currently trying:
1-Hair Restoration Laboratories Shampoo+Conditioner: Shampoo feels good, doesn't feel oily at all and all ingredients seem to have a lot of good research stuff, same goes with conditioner. Will keep using it 4-5x/week
2-Amitamin Hair Plus oral (vitamins, aminoacids): I think a good way to measure hair health in regards to the supply it needs is your nail quality. I have been taking it about 2 weeks and so far my nail condition I can't say it has improved much. Will give it a couple more months. It has biotin, all B vitamins, cysteine, methionine, arginine, vit A, C, E, Zink, Iron, Selenium, Niacin,... a lot of good stuff. My nails should be pretty strong in 2-3 weeks I would say, let's see.
3-Stimulax01 (massaging): It allegedly massages your scalp. Given the "low" price (125€) I tried, but I don't really think it does much. I think it mainly vibrates. It feels kind of nice, but I don't think you get much tissue movement really.
4-Topical with no oils: I use it most nights. I put a bunch of good stuff with distilled water. Namely:
Green Tea Extract
Arginine
Taurine
Vit C
Caffeine
Amitamin Hair plus (it has biotin and a bunch of other good nutrients)
ALCAR (acetyl carnitine)
Reishi mushroom extract
B6 pyridoxine
I put about 1/2 pill of everything. Mostly are antioxidants, DHT blockers, antifibrotic, caffeine brings blood to it. I also put it on my face by the way.
I have yet to add Saw Palmetto to the solution. I think it helped TREMENDOUSLY. I had been feeling itchy scalp for the last 2-3 months (not all the time), and nothing seemed to help. Keto shampoo (Regenepure DR) aliviated it for a little bit, the other new shampoo (Hair restoration also seemed to help, and it doesnt have Keto), but what seems to permanently remove it was adding this at nights!
Now, I'm not sure if I should wash my hair in the mornings. I don't do it. Sometimes I apply it generously and leave it for a couple hours, mostly all nights that I don't use the topical with oils. I used to add Grape seed extract but the smell was awful. I think it's great to add this, and it doesn't leave my hair greasy.
By the way, yesterday I applied derminator and wanted to leave 24h rest in my scalp, so didn't put any shampoo or the topical in the hair and it is already a little bit itchy again, so I think the topical is definitely helping, maybe also the shampoo, but for sure I think the topical is helping a lot with that!
5-Topical with oils:
Now, this would be somewhat similar to the previous one, but using Pumpking seed oil as a base/carrier instead of water, and adding the essential oils to the mix. So it would be:
Pumpking Seed Oil (60-70%)
Coconut oil (10-20%)
Essential oils:
Peppermint
Lavender
Cedarwood
Rosemary
It's too early to tell and also I think I might have put too little of concentration. Will try to adjust. All have good research on hair growth
Saw Palmetto open one pill and pull the content in the topical solution
And the other ingredients I already mention in the non oily topical (caffeine, carnitine, etc.)
It's a f*****g mess, the Pumpking seed oil is so... green and oily and greasy lol I made a mess of my pillow by sleeping with it the first night. I put it also on my face too btw I think it's gotta be good too. Wash in the morning.
6-Derminator 2 (wounding): That is the one I have the most hopes on! I used it yesterday for the first time, and I'm not sure I wounded myself enough. Sure, in the temples it was f*****g intense, but in my scalp with hair I didn't feel much pain and went for 2mm at some parts. I also went ahead and used it on my face too for beauty reasons haha
I will go harder next time lol I used temples/hairline about 1.5 medium, I used about that on my face, and I used 2mm on the covered with hair part of my scalp. As I say, studies say it's as good as Minoxidil, so I'm putting a lot of hope on it! Also it's the most convenient as you only have to use it every 1-2 weeks.
7-Detumescence massage:
This one I want to go really easy on, as it's very easy to lose a lot of hair doing it. So I try to go hard, but I don't rub my hair hard or something like that. I feel that applying pressure is very good, I also move up and down but I try not to grab by the weak parts (I go with the sides, or the bald scalp in order to touch the hair in danger as little as possible). I don't do it every day, just from time to time.
So my general routine will be:
Everyday: Oral supplements: Amitamin Hair Plus, plus all the stuff I put in my hair, but orally (caffeine, carnitine, reishi mushrooms extract, taurine, etc. including Saw Palmetto orally, I'm gonna try it for a while to see how my body responds)
Almost every day: Non oily topical. Shampoo+Conditioner
2x-3x/week: Oily greasy topical
Every 1-2 weeks: Derminator session
Randomly: Stimulax massage/detumescence massage
And that's it!
I am convinced that there's gotta be a natural way for everybody not to go with sh*t that affects your hormones etc.
And I am also convinced that a multi-approach is the best way to go. From this 7 approaches, there might be 2-3 that help, and, in case I recover hair or at least stabilize and get thick hair, I won't be able to know for certain, but it's fine. Better that than going bald knowing what DIDN'T help you for sure lol
So I will keep update this thread with my progress/condition. I made A TON of research to get to all this treatments, a lot of time choosing good quality supplements, etc, etc. I've spent a lot of time doing research, I hope it ends up being worth it.
Wish me luck!
Norwood I or II, more closer to II I would say. Slowly receding hairling in the last 7-8 months. I had already some small receding hairline in my temples for a few years (since I was 27-28, I'm 34), but very very slow advance, but in this last year almost and particularly last 4-5 months I can really and easily show from one picture to another that there has been some receding.
And especially in the last 2-3 months I'm losing more hair last with appreciable receding in hairline sadly, yes, and also shedding more (more than ever) and have had itchy scalp from time to time (not every day, not every time) for the previous 2-3 months too. So I decided I had to do something.
What I tried so far:
1-Zix: total fail. Made my hair worse. I was very naive to think that Zinc sulphate would be the cure to my problems just cause some experiment in the 80s with cells seemed to work omg haha
2-Regenepure DR shampoo: Moderate success with more use needed. I used it for a couple weeks and it helped with itchiness, but did not complitely solved it. I think it helped a bit with shedding too but it was too early to tell.
What I'm currently trying:
1-Hair Restoration Laboratories Shampoo+Conditioner: Shampoo feels good, doesn't feel oily at all and all ingredients seem to have a lot of good research stuff, same goes with conditioner. Will keep using it 4-5x/week
2-Amitamin Hair Plus oral (vitamins, aminoacids): I think a good way to measure hair health in regards to the supply it needs is your nail quality. I have been taking it about 2 weeks and so far my nail condition I can't say it has improved much. Will give it a couple more months. It has biotin, all B vitamins, cysteine, methionine, arginine, vit A, C, E, Zink, Iron, Selenium, Niacin,... a lot of good stuff. My nails should be pretty strong in 2-3 weeks I would say, let's see.
3-Stimulax01 (massaging): It allegedly massages your scalp. Given the "low" price (125€) I tried, but I don't really think it does much. I think it mainly vibrates. It feels kind of nice, but I don't think you get much tissue movement really.
4-Topical with no oils: I use it most nights. I put a bunch of good stuff with distilled water. Namely:
Green Tea Extract
Arginine
Taurine
Vit C
Caffeine
Amitamin Hair plus (it has biotin and a bunch of other good nutrients)
ALCAR (acetyl carnitine)
Reishi mushroom extract
B6 pyridoxine
I put about 1/2 pill of everything. Mostly are antioxidants, DHT blockers, antifibrotic, caffeine brings blood to it. I also put it on my face by the way.
I have yet to add Saw Palmetto to the solution. I think it helped TREMENDOUSLY. I had been feeling itchy scalp for the last 2-3 months (not all the time), and nothing seemed to help. Keto shampoo (Regenepure DR) aliviated it for a little bit, the other new shampoo (Hair restoration also seemed to help, and it doesnt have Keto), but what seems to permanently remove it was adding this at nights!
Now, I'm not sure if I should wash my hair in the mornings. I don't do it. Sometimes I apply it generously and leave it for a couple hours, mostly all nights that I don't use the topical with oils. I used to add Grape seed extract but the smell was awful. I think it's great to add this, and it doesn't leave my hair greasy.
By the way, yesterday I applied derminator and wanted to leave 24h rest in my scalp, so didn't put any shampoo or the topical in the hair and it is already a little bit itchy again, so I think the topical is definitely helping, maybe also the shampoo, but for sure I think the topical is helping a lot with that!
5-Topical with oils:
Now, this would be somewhat similar to the previous one, but using Pumpking seed oil as a base/carrier instead of water, and adding the essential oils to the mix. So it would be:
Pumpking Seed Oil (60-70%)
Coconut oil (10-20%)
Essential oils:
Peppermint
Lavender
Cedarwood
Rosemary
It's too early to tell and also I think I might have put too little of concentration. Will try to adjust. All have good research on hair growth
Saw Palmetto open one pill and pull the content in the topical solution
And the other ingredients I already mention in the non oily topical (caffeine, carnitine, etc.)
It's a f*****g mess, the Pumpking seed oil is so... green and oily and greasy lol I made a mess of my pillow by sleeping with it the first night. I put it also on my face too btw I think it's gotta be good too. Wash in the morning.
6-Derminator 2 (wounding): That is the one I have the most hopes on! I used it yesterday for the first time, and I'm not sure I wounded myself enough. Sure, in the temples it was f*****g intense, but in my scalp with hair I didn't feel much pain and went for 2mm at some parts. I also went ahead and used it on my face too for beauty reasons haha
I will go harder next time lol I used temples/hairline about 1.5 medium, I used about that on my face, and I used 2mm on the covered with hair part of my scalp. As I say, studies say it's as good as Minoxidil, so I'm putting a lot of hope on it! Also it's the most convenient as you only have to use it every 1-2 weeks.
7-Detumescence massage:
This one I want to go really easy on, as it's very easy to lose a lot of hair doing it. So I try to go hard, but I don't rub my hair hard or something like that. I feel that applying pressure is very good, I also move up and down but I try not to grab by the weak parts (I go with the sides, or the bald scalp in order to touch the hair in danger as little as possible). I don't do it every day, just from time to time.
So my general routine will be:
Everyday: Oral supplements: Amitamin Hair Plus, plus all the stuff I put in my hair, but orally (caffeine, carnitine, reishi mushrooms extract, taurine, etc. including Saw Palmetto orally, I'm gonna try it for a while to see how my body responds)
Almost every day: Non oily topical. Shampoo+Conditioner
2x-3x/week: Oily greasy topical
Every 1-2 weeks: Derminator session
Randomly: Stimulax massage/detumescence massage
And that's it!
I am convinced that there's gotta be a natural way for everybody not to go with sh*t that affects your hormones etc.
And I am also convinced that a multi-approach is the best way to go. From this 7 approaches, there might be 2-3 that help, and, in case I recover hair or at least stabilize and get thick hair, I won't be able to know for certain, but it's fine. Better that than going bald knowing what DIDN'T help you for sure lol
So I will keep update this thread with my progress/condition. I made A TON of research to get to all this treatments, a lot of time choosing good quality supplements, etc, etc. I've spent a lot of time doing research, I hope it ends up being worth it.
Wish me luck!